LM24 LM 2012 - The 'Garage 56' Discussion...

gustavobamba · 9 Jun 2011, 14:57 (Ref:2894363)

Today announced three new cars, (ACO Sporting Committee decided to create the garage #56 to promote new technologies), that will race next year.

1 -Delta Wing LMP
2 - GreenGT LMP H2
3 -Courage Ø.12 LMP

More news in:
http://www.lemanslive.com/24h-mans/2...ss-conference/

Look at the video to see the 3 car´s

Pandamasque · 9 Jun 2011, 15:21 (Ref:2894384)

3 cars to take 1 garage/grid spot?

deggis · 9 Jun 2011, 15:29 (Ref:2894393)

I don't understand that either. Unless it's still an open competition between the three entries.

tkelland · 9 Jun 2011, 15:39 (Ref:2894400)

That is the order of selection for the 56th grid spot. In case the lead car cannot make the race, the other two are reserves. Similar to that of the actual entry list.

arakis · 9 Jun 2011, 15:50 (Ref:2894413)

what happend to porsch 918 RSR

**skycafe** · 9 Jun 2011, 16:04 (Ref:2894423)

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Originally Posted by arakis

what happend to porsch 918 RSR

I am with you on this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually, the Green and the Courage interest me, who has info on either?

robert

deggis · 9 Jun 2011, 16:05 (Ref:2894427)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkelland

That is the order of selection for the 56th grid spot. In case the lead car cannot make the race, the other two are reserves. Similar to that of the actual entry list.

Are you sure?

**joeb** · 9 Jun 2011, 17:09 (Ref:2894480)

Quote:

Originally Posted by deggis

Are you sure?

Here is a quote from the press release:

Quote:

“56th Garage” which will be set aside at next year’s race for cars featuring alternative technologies.

Notice cars was written not car.

Acid09 · 9 Jun 2011, 19:57 (Ref:2894637)

According to John Dagys, the Test Day might return in 2012

Yes...I´ll be there if it does!

deggis · 9 Jun 2011, 20:06 (Ref:2894652)

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeb

Here is a quote from the press release:

Notice cars was written not car.

Also:

Quote:

While today’s announcement of Project 56, the DeltaWing project to be run by Highcroft Racing, has a confirmed entry to next year’s 24 Hours of Le Mans, the ACO has selected two reserve entrants for the 56th pit should the program not meet the expectations of the organizers.

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...sday-notebook/

JAG · 10 Jun 2011, 01:13 (Ref:2894862)

Some info on the Delta Wing.

http://www.gordonkirby.com/categorie..._is_no238.html

Fogelhund · 10 Jun 2011, 01:42 (Ref:2894868)

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Originally Posted by arakis

what happend to porsch 918 RSR

+1... far more interesting than the DWP.

Mindspin13B · 10 Jun 2011, 17:32 (Ref:2895264)

Have they announced the dates for the 2012 race yet?

Dani Filth · 10 Jun 2011, 17:38 (Ref:2895271)

2nd weekend in June .. unless force majeure

TPowers_astonmartian · 10 Jun 2011, 21:46 (Ref:2895392)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

Some info on the Delta Wing.

http://www.gordonkirby.com/categorie..._is_no238.html

Just found another link to more info.

http://deltawingracing.com/2011/06/d...ical-features/

I'm not sure about the shape, however I guess a prototype is a prototype and as long as it sticks to the rules and regulations, then it can race! An interesting concept all the same. Any links for the other two possibles?

The Badger · 11 Jun 2011, 08:48 (Ref:2895507)

Its a 2 seat F1 car on steroids !!!

Horrible .

ujoint · 13 Jun 2011, 00:41 (Ref:2897671)

Is this for real? Tired of messing around. 2012 might be the year?

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karting · 13 Jun 2011, 00:50 (Ref:2897677)

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Originally Posted by ujoint

Is this for real? Tired of messing around.

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i wish, oh how i wish. That picture is however a photoshop, you can tell by the wheels

ujoint · 13 Jun 2011, 01:16 (Ref:2897689)

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Originally Posted by karting

i wish, oh how i wish. That picture is however a photoshop, you can tell by the wheels

It looks real to me. You may be right on the photoshop though as nothing could possibly look that cool from damn near anybody. I am not sure where I found that photo exactly. It showed up on the web sometime last winter (jan 2011) if I remember correctly. There is no mention of this as a LM car in Ferrari land. Rumors are rumors. Right?

AGD · 14 Jun 2011, 09:34 (Ref:2898652)

I'm not sure if anyone has posted this before as we have a lot of threads on the topic, but there are some new photos of the GreenGT LMPH2 that I have not seen before. Also, there are videos of Christian Pescatori (former Audi driver) testing the test car at Pau and at Le Mans. It's pretty interesting.

It's a great looking concept car, I'm not sure what the final product will look like though. What do you guys think about the sound the thing makes?

Does anyone want to put a stopwatch to see how fast this thing goes down the Mulsanne as compared to current LMP2s and GTEs?

http://www.worldcarfans.com/11106133...24-hours-of-le

**skycafe** · 14 Jun 2011, 11:50 (Ref:2898762)

Thanks, I had seen that, I guess the Lemans lap was just added (??). I saw the prior video at Pau. It is impressive. It is also 'early days.'

I have been unlucky at finding info on Courage, and I swear I remember an announcement a year or so ago that Courage was working on something like that.

Down F0rce · 14 Jun 2011, 12:04 (Ref:2898778)

Let all three of them in! We can live without one F430 and one 911.

TRuss · 15 Jun 2011, 02:05 (Ref:2899170)

The Ferrari images are definitely photoshops. I saw them on another site close to a year ago where it was said that they were created by a young designer. Complete fantasy, but great looking.

As for the car chosen I don't get it. There are two other cars that are truly pushing the boundaries of alternative fuels and propulsion and they choose something that is so weirdly shaped that even the idiots that run Indy could see that it was a bad idea. I'm hoping for change as much as anybody but I'm not so desperate that I want Ace and Gary's penis car http://http://www.ridelust.com/wp-co...nis_mobile.jpgfrom "The Ambiguously Gay Duo" cartoons trying to get around LeMans. I don't understand how a strangely shaped car is helpful to the automobiles future.

AGD · 15 Jun 2011, 02:30 (Ref:2899176)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRuss

As for the car chosen I don't get it. There are two other cars that are truly pushing the boundaries of alternative fuels and propulsion and they choose something that is so weirdly shaped that even the idiots that run Indy could see that it was a bad idea. I'm hoping for change as much as anybody but I'm not so desperate that I want Ace and Gary's penis car from "The Ambiguously Gay Duo" cartoons trying to get around LeMans. I don't understand how a strangely shaped car is helpful to the automobiles future.

Agree, I'm not sure what the point is. There are a lot of other ways to design a lightweight LMP car. I don't know why they have to go for such a strange shape. Maybe your image was the comedic skit that inspired the Deltawing. Well, either that or it was this comedy sketch (hilarious, but probably not safe for work).

vincegail · 15 Jun 2011, 15:25 (Ref:2899552)

If I remember correctly, the plaque next to the GreenGT in the Le Mans to the future stand read: 2 motors of 300 kW each = 600 kW. Battery capacity = 120 kWh. That means it can run for 120/600 hours on full power. That means every 12 minutes they need a recharge/battery change. No matter how good the KERS-system they use is, it will be rather pathetic to watch. Or not to watch, because they will be in the pits more than anything else!

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