The best F1drivers are from !!!!!!!!!!!!!

gp19 · 6 Feb 2001, 00:16 (Ref:62761)

I wonder what you think out there of (1) What country produce the best F1 drivers in the world is it Brazil or Canada the US, Germany, or an other country. (2) And the most drivers in F1, So you tell me what you think let’s have fun
Have a SSSSSSuper day Gp19

Liz · 6 Feb 2001, 00:21 (Ref:62764)

BRAZIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Airhead · 6 Feb 2001, 02:08 (Ref:62784)

Tasmania!!!

Holly · 6 Feb 2001, 02:36 (Ref:62786)

Finland! Heh heh! (not including Mika Salo)

Dino IV · 6 Feb 2001, 02:40 (Ref:62787)

Starting with the most drivers which I looked up once: from the States. About a 160 F1 drivers. Hardly any quality ratio there though coz 90% scored no points at all. I guess it would be even hard to name more than the 10 top-rankers.

The US is closely followed by the UK with around 150 GP drivers. In points ofcourse better than the Americans but still about 75% 0 points finishers.

After that it's Italy with around 90, France with 60, Germany with 40 and from 25 downwards the rest of all the nationalities. I am not that sure about the numbers so correct me if I am wrong.

Best scoring average must be from Brazil without a doubt, but I'll check if I can find some statistics tomorrow.

Valve Bounce · 6 Feb 2001, 02:58 (Ref:62793)

AM, I don't think Tasmania counts as a separate country - it is flat out being remembered as a province, or being remembered at all. I have to explain to all and sundry that's where Peter Hudson came from, along with Daryl Baldock.

Airhead · 6 Feb 2001, 03:43 (Ref:62803)

VB,

The good thing about Tasmania is that you only have to mention one inhabitant and the rest of the poulation falls into place. Not six degress of separation between people but 1.5!

Now for Tasmanian F1 drivers?
I win, (glasses, beard, Tasmanian, the guys got it all) John Bowe!
Played hard, won nothing.

But on the participation to points ratio Australians (from the big Island) musty do OK with three WDC in years behind them and not many starters.

kuchi · 6 Feb 2001, 12:48 (Ref:62852)

I think most of drivers come from Europe, but southamericans have proved to be better. And, well Colombia may have just 2 drivers in F1 history, but with JPM on the list, I think we are the best.

RussianFriend · 6 Feb 2001, 14:21 (Ref:62865)

From Finland. This country used to be part of Russia in past. They some russian blood in their veins.

**bella** · 6 Feb 2001, 19:42 (Ref:62908)

forca brasil!

(if they can produce helio castroneves (deliberate mistake accepted), ricardo zonta and christian fittipaldi, then damnit, they have to be the best)

Marshal · 7 Feb 2001, 10:36 (Ref:63088)

Statistically it blighty, with the Scots featuring particularly strongly. I seem to recall the UK has produced almost twice as many GP victories as the next nation (who I can't remember, but it might have been Brazil).

Airhead · 7 Feb 2001, 10:52 (Ref:63093)

Sorry Marshal we're into ratio here, not of gears but people and wins.

Sorry Kuchi, JPM has not done a thing in F1. He has not turned a wheel in anger (in a race). You are premature. This other guy you infer was there to make up the numbers - well who knows?

Now about Tasmania, Population three people. F1 racers = 1 out of 3. F1 winners = 0 out of 3.

I rest my case your Honour.

Marshal · 7 Feb 2001, 11:28 (Ref:63102)

Ratio wise (and especially if we include other forms of Motorsport too) its a toss up between the Scots and the Finns.

As for Tasmania's number of F1 winners, its exactly the same ratio as China's, 0 divided by 3 is the same as 0 divided by 1,000,000,000.

Case dismissed.

Dino IV · 7 Feb 2001, 12:44 (Ref:63129)

Well, I looked up some numbers:

Ranking for number of drivers
Country - Drivers - Wins - Win per Driver
1. USA - 155 - 33 > 0,21 (36% Andretti; Gurney, Phill Hill)
2. UK - 150 - 185 > 1,23 (Moss, Clark, G&D Hill, Stewart, Mansell, Hunt, DC)
3. Italy - 92 - 39 > 0,42 (Ascari, Patrese, Alboreto, Farina)
4. France - 64 - 79 > 1,23 (65% Prost)
5. Germany - 44 - 50 > 1,14 (88% Schumacher)
6. Argentina - 24 - 36 > 1,50 (Fangio and Reutemann)
7. Brazil - 23 - 80 > 3,48

(Fittipaldi, Piquet, Senna)
8. Belgium 21 - 11 > 0,52 (Ickx and Boutsen)
9. Switzerland - 21 - 7 > 0,33 (Regazzoni, Siffert)
10 South-Africa - 19 - 10 > 0,53 (100% Scheckter)
11 Australia - 15 - 26 > 1,73 (Brabham and Jones)
12 Japan - 15 - 0 > 0,00
13 Austria - 13 - 41 > 3,15 (Lauda, Berger, Rindt)
14 Canada - 12 - 17 > 1,42 (Gilles and Jacques)
15 Netherlands - 11 - 0 > 0,00
16 Spain - 11 - 0 > 0,00
17 Sweden - 9 - 12 > 1,33 (83% Peterson)
18 New Zealand - 8 - 12 > 1,50 (Hulme and McLaren)
19 Finland - 6 - 23 > 3,83 (Rosberg and Hakkinen)
20 Mexico - 4 - 2 > 0,50 (Pedro Rodriguez)
The rest of the countries entered 4 or less drivers scoring no victories.

Ranking by win per driver ratio:
1. Finland (3,83)
2. Brazil (3,48)
3. Austria (3,15)
4. Australia (1,73)
5. Argentina (1,50)
-. New Zealand (1,50)
7. Canada (1,42)
8. Sweden (1,33)
9. France (1,23(44

)
10 UK (1,23(33

)

Well that kept me off my work.

Worthless ratio to judge any qualities rightfully, but it's nice chatstuff I guess.

Marshal · 7 Feb 2001, 13:12 (Ref:63146)

Nice to see I was right that brits have won the most GPs, more than the 2nd and 3rd placed countries put together.

BTW, to get 165 Americans, I'm assuming the figures have included everyone who raced at the Indy 500 when it was a World Championship event.

Crash Test · 8 Feb 2001, 00:17 (Ref:63298)

One thing to keep in mind about Tasmanians is that thye all have two heads, so any population figures you have should be doubled

...Sorry to all you Tasmanians, but my lasting memory of the place is down near Port Arthur, driving past the "Funny Farm"...

When you look at the stats, I think Australia comes out on top. Finland and Austria are parts of Europe (right?) and thus it is easy to travel around, get noticed, and get backing, even if it isn't from your home country. Motorsport is big business in Brazil, and their companies seem to get right behind their drivers. Australia however, is huge, with a small population, and a motorsport industry which in all honesty is not a spec on those of the UK/Europe/North America.

I think we should be proud of what we have acheived

Airhead · 8 Feb 2001, 00:55 (Ref:63305)

Yeah Crash Baby your right.

I forgot about the two headed harrow business. Back to the calculator.

EERO · 8 Feb 2001, 03:15 (Ref:63339)

Quote:

Originally posted by Holly
Finland! Heh heh! (not including Mika Salo)

Holly, you're starting to get interesting.

Russian friend, you're mad!!!!

So Tiny Finland tops this list, fascinating...

Dino, you forgot Ginther and Revson. Discounting the Indy 500 from 1950-1960 for the US you get; (and I rushed this...)

Total Drivers:42 Wins 22 0.52 Wins /driver

RussianFriend · 8 Feb 2001, 08:22 (Ref:63363)

Quote:

Originally posted by EERO

Russian friend, you're mad!!!!

I know, I'm!!!!

Kalevi · 8 Feb 2001, 19:40 (Ref:63438)

Of course the best drivers always come from Finland. We rule in F1 as well as in Rallying!!

Just wait what Mika and Kimi will accomplish this season!!

OVERSTEER · 8 Feb 2001, 23:37 (Ref:63535)

Kelevi, lets ace it, Peter Sauber is only going to have Heidfeld after Imola because the FIA judged Raikkonen to be CR*P,and will not renew his licence, Hakkinen and Ron Dennis are up each others a*ses, and the same applies to Makinen and Mitsubishi(rallying).And I think you might find that Britain rules the roost when it comes to F1, you have a point in the case of rallying.

Liz · 8 Feb 2001, 23:51 (Ref:63541)

Well as Bill Clinton says, It all depends on how you define ... BEST.

Brazil has the best pilots because they are the most fun to watch and they are always right near the front ... and because they are generally the best looking.

SparX · 9 Feb 2001, 05:16 (Ref:63568)

the best Formula One drivers come from........wait for it
NEW ZEALAND

just look at Bruce mclaren..... and the legacy he started. thats all im going to say

LATERZ DOODZ

Kenny W. · 9 Feb 2001, 08:30 (Ref:63580)

Dino IV,
Can you calculate Scotland as a seperate country?
i.e. Clark, Stewart & DC?

Dino IV · 9 Feb 2001, 15:35 (Ref:63611)

Well I don't know all the Scottish drivers and I can't find them listed anywhere either.
The ones I know as Scots are: Jim Clark, David Coulthard, Jim Crawford, Johnny Dumfries, Ron Flockhart, Innes Ireland, Archie Scott-Brown, Ian Stewart, Jackie & Jimmie Stewart and Leslie Thorne. I know there are two more drivers who were from Edinburgh but I can't recall their names. So that's 11 for sure + 2 = 13 drivers. They where worth ... euh ... 25 + 9 + 1 + 27 = 62 victories.
So that's an incredible win per driver ratio of 4.77!

But maybe I am unaware of some more Scots from UK's 151 drivers, so let's say there were about 20 all together, that would still make up for a win\driver ratio of 3.10, so that would be tenth place in the driver numbers ranking and fourth spot in the win\driver-ratio ranking.