F1 on ovals

[F.O.F.]

I would just like to see other peoples views on this.would you be interested in seeing a grand prix held on an oval track. personnaly i would love to see how the drivers would cope and how the cars would be set up

[Pingguest]

I would love to see that too, especially on superspeedways. I think there won't be much trouble with close racing and passing.

[Marbot]

hmmmm.....F1 at Rockingham,it might just.....no,not really.

[F.O.F.]

Originally Posted by martyn bott

hmmmm.....F1 at Rockingham,it might just.....no,not really.

i was thinking more along the lines of indi or michigan

[Dutton]

Here we go again....

[Pingguest]

Originally Posted by F.O.F.

i was thinking more along the lines of indi or michigan

Talladega.

[F.O.F.]

has there allready been a thread on this subject

talladega.....talladeath

[EERO]

Originally Posted by Dutton

Here we go again....

What Dutton said.

Actually, I think that the number of blown engines would violate Clean Air standards.

[Marbot]

Originally Posted by EERO

What Dutton said.

Actually, I think that the number of blown engines would violate Clean Air standards.

The engines won't mind,but maybe the tyres......

[Pingguest]

Originally Posted by EERO

Actually, I think that the number of blown engines would violate Clean Air standards.

I don't see any reason why. First, there are many kind of ovals. Second, engine manufactures are nowadays forced to supply an engine which can last two whole race weekends. So, why won't they be able to an engine which can last one oval race?

[Marbot]

Originally Posted by Pingguest

I don't see any reason why. First, there are many kind of ovals. Second, engine manufactures are nowadays forced to supply an engine which can last two whole race weekends. So, why won't they be able to an engine which can last one oval race?

The Indy 500 is how long?

Restricted V10's would be good though.

[BootsOntheSide]

Ovals involve almost constant acceleration - manufacturers would need to design engines around this, and the technologies and echniques would be very different for them. Previous-year engines and chassis would be useless for these races also, which doesn't fit with the current cost-cutting drive.

[pink69]

I suppose it would depend on tyres, we wouldn't want another repeat of Indy last year. I'm sure Ralf would be against it! I doubt the tyre companies would be for it, it would mean alot of research and testing of a tyre on used for one weekend a year. Alot of additional cost would be involved too. I'd like to see it but I doubt the drivers would agree on safety grounds.

[safc_fan89]

It would be interesting but I don't think it would work. Not in terms of entertainment or safety.

[EERO]

Originally Posted by martyn bott

The engines won't mind,but maybe the tyres......

Full throttle, lap after lap....


Kablooie.

The engines currently are not designed for this use. Clearly they could be redesigned and adapted, but it would be for a sole race. Hardly worth the expense.

[jhansen]

I think it would make for a very poor race IMO. The IRL and NASCAR have rules where the cars are very similar, and thus have a lot of parity on an oval. But with the differences in the Formula 1 grid from front to back, I think it would come off very dull.

[Alwaysfirst]

The chassis & front wings would also have to be changed. Thay are not currently designed to deal with different risks of racing on ovals. The minimum weight would have to be significantly increased with the front end of the car being redesigned from scratch. For 1 or 2 races a year it isn't worth it. The nearest we could get is a redesign of Indy, taking the track back from the current track after the double hairpin complex, through the golf course & onto the oval there. This would hake the last 2 corners be at the speeds of proper ovals. However, this will never happen for safety reasons (see R. Schumacher's accidents there)

[safc_fan89]

F1 cars probably couldn't get close enough to each other anyway to make it worthwhile.

[Bononi]

The season is soon starting guys !!!!

Back to earth... Back to earth...

[JeremySmith]

No thank you..

[Dixie Flatline]

Originally Posted by jhansen

I think it would make for a very poor race IMO. The IRL and NASCAR have rules where the cars are very similar, and thus have a lot of parity on an oval. But with the differences in the Formula 1 grid from front to back, I think it would come off very dull.

Excellent point. The tail-end charlies would be lapped multiple times during a race. If you take the race distance to be approximately 300km, as it is in other races, on a 1 mile (1.6km) track, that's about 188 laps. On a 2 mile (3.2km) track, that's about 94 laps. I shudder to think how many times the slower cars would be lapped.

[JABWOA]

However, a new circuit based on the idea of the old Monza... road circuit that has high banked corners...

[MRJUCY]

It would be like the Honda's salt flat attempts slightly novel but all in all not particularly interesting.

[Dutton]

Now, come on, what we need is an upside-down oval.

Clearly, we would need appropriately sized, and proportioned, half-corkscrews to act as "on" and "off" ramps.

It would very cool though.

The rolling start would beat anything on offer in other oval races, .

[Pingguest]

Originally Posted by martyn bott

The Indy 500 is how long?

Restricted V10's would be good though.

500 miles is equal to 805 kilometres. The current engines can last about 1600 kilometres.