Aston martin/Mclaren?

DanJR1 · 28 May 2007, 16:06 (Ref:1922962)

This thread is about a rumour of a big Aston Sportscar project with McLaren involvement

Comments...

**FIRE** · 28 May 2007, 16:14 (Ref:1922966)

Why would Aston Martin hire McLaren to build a LMP1?

Prodrive will enter F1 next season. They are rumoured to use the McLaren car and Mercedes engine.

Chewie-1990 · 28 May 2007, 16:33 (Ref:1922978)

I did hear a couple of months back that McLaren were considering an LMP, do we know for sure that its Aston Martin Racing and not Prodrive? If McLaren did want to build an LMP, a collaboration with Prodrive would make sense

**FIRE** · 28 May 2007, 16:59 (Ref:1923011)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewie-1990

I did hear a couple of months back that McLaren were considering an LMP, do we know for sure that its Aston Martin Racing and not Prodrive? If McLaren did want to build an LMP, a collaboration with Prodrive would make sense

I think McLaren and Prodrive are both capable of developing a prototype. They don't need each other.

Charlies · 28 May 2007, 17:03 (Ref:1923014)

It makes sense, much more than the possibility of taking Aston Martin into F1. Like Jaguar, Aston Martin would benefit much more from winning Le Mans than being in F1 in my opinion. They're a sportscar marque and winning Le Mans would be great for the brand.

Chewie-1990 · 28 May 2007, 17:04 (Ref:1923016)

Quote:
'I think McLaren and Prodrive are both capable of developing a prototype. They don't need each other.'

Well very true, but it's got to help to join a team that knows what it's doing. Don't get me wrong, both teams are brilliant, i've worked at McLaren, I know. I just think you've got to have a better chance collaborating with a proven team in the category than going it alone. They don't want to join to make up the numbers, they're there to win

**FIRE** · 28 May 2007, 17:05 (Ref:1923017)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlies

It makes sense, much more than the possibility of taking Aston Martin into F1. Like Jaguar, Aston Martin would benefit much more from winning Le Mans than being in F1 in my opinion. They're a sportscar marque and winning Le Mans would be great for the brand.

I agree.

This is one of they reasons I don't understand why Spyker bought the Midland F1 team.

DanJR1 · 28 May 2007, 17:06 (Ref:1923019)

anything for definate?

Chewie-1990 · 28 May 2007, 17:08 (Ref:1923024)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

I agree.

This is one of they reasons I don't understand why Spyker bought the Midland F1 team.

I guess it just got them a Formula 1 entry, they just hoped they could buy the right people and move up the grid, I have no idea tbh

HORNDAWG · 28 May 2007, 17:30 (Ref:1923042)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRE

Why would Aston Martin hire McLaren to build a LMP1?

Prodrive will enter F1 next season. They are rumoured to use the McLaren car and Mercedes engine.

There is the rumored symbiotic relationship between McLaren and Prodrive for the F-1 entry, with a possible synergistic value for Prodrive/AMR in resources. Then you have the Richards AM-Prodrive connection. The only thing that AM people have stated is that they see no AM F-1 team, but that Sports Car racing will continue to be an AM activity, so it does make some sense.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewie-1990

I did hear a couple of months back that McLaren were considering an LMP, do we know for sure that its Aston Martin Racing and not Prodrive? If McLaren did want to build an LMP, a collaboration with Prodrive would make sense

To this point Prodrive, in essence, has been AMR.
With the purchase of AM that may change but we have heard nothing on that front yet.

L.P.

zork · 28 May 2007, 17:32 (Ref:1923044)

How do you think mercedes will feel if mclaren build a car for a rival car company????

JAG · 28 May 2007, 17:33 (Ref:1923045)

How about:-

1). Prodrive F1 team with Mclaren chassis and Mercedes engines.

2). Aston Martin LMP1 team with chassis designed and built by Mclaren

No Mclaren branding, just a technical link up.

Prodrives activities tend to be based on production cars, I'm not sure they have the capability, in house, to build a carbon LMP1 or F1 chassis.

JAG · 28 May 2007, 17:34 (Ref:1923046)

ignore.

Chewie-1990 · 28 May 2007, 17:35 (Ref:1923048)

Prodrive runs AMR yes, i'm just thinking this will be a McLaren LMP with help from Prodrive (or vice versa i suppose), rather than a McLaren-Aston Martin LMP as was possibly suggested further up^^ Just because Prodrive own Aston Martin doesn't mean it will be an Aston, just like the F1 project is (apparently) Prodrive not Aston Martin

Chewie-1990 · 28 May 2007, 17:36 (Ref:1923049)

That was in response to HORNDAWG btw
And JAG I think the current rumours are exactly that, Prodrive team running McLaren-Mercedes cars, at least for the moment

HORNDAWG · 28 May 2007, 17:41 (Ref:1923057)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewie-1990

Prodrive runs AMR yes, i'm just thinking this will be a McLaren LMP with help from Prodrive (or vice versa i suppose), rather than a McLaren-Aston Martin LMP as was possibly suggested further up^^ Just because Prodrive own Aston Martin doesn't mean it will be an Aston, just like the F1 project is (apparently) Prodrive not Aston Martin

Prodrive does not own Aston Martin. David Richards not Prodrive is a partner in the consortium that purchased Aston Martin!!!!!!

L.P.

HORNDAWG · 28 May 2007, 17:43 (Ref:1923058)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

How about:-

1). Prodrive F1 team with Mclaren chassis and Mercedes engines.

2). Aston Martin LMP1 team with chassis designed and built by Mclaren

No Mclaren branding, just a technical link up.

Prodrives activities tend to be based on production cars, I'm not sure they have the capability, in house, to build a carbon LMP1 or F1 chassis.

My thoughts exactly.

L.P.

Chewie-1990 · 28 May 2007, 17:43 (Ref:1923059)

You know what I mean! My bad, I meant, as I mentioned earlier, Prodrive run AMR

**PascaLM** · 28 May 2007, 17:47 (Ref:1923065)

I imagine a prototype Aston Martin or Mc Laren with the ACO specifications of 2010 (roof...) ; this could be great !

**FIRE** · 28 May 2007, 17:53 (Ref:1923069)

Are Dennis and Ojjeh still the main shareholders of McLaren? Or is Mercedes the controlling shareholder nowadays?

Chewie-1990 · 28 May 2007, 18:01 (Ref:1923074)

Bahrain Mumtalakat Holding Company - 30%
DaimlerChrysler - 40%
Ron Dennis - 15%
TAG Group - 15%

**FIRE** · 28 May 2007, 18:04 (Ref:1923078)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

How about:-

1). Prodrive F1 team with Mclaren chassis and Mercedes engines.

2). Aston Martin LMP1 team with chassis designed and built by Mclaren

No Mclaren branding, just a technical link up.

Makes sense. With Mercedes factory driver Paffet joining the Prodrive F1 team. I think David Richards has denied AM will enter F1.

McLaren designing/building the LMP1, Prodrive running the car on track?

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Originally Posted by JAG

Prodrives activities tend to be based on production cars, I'm not sure they have the capability, in house, to build a carbon LMP1 or F1 chassis.

I am still not convinced why they need McLaren to build a LMP. If Creation, Zytek and Lucchini can build a LMP why can't Prodrive?

HORNDAWG · 28 May 2007, 18:11 (Ref:1923081)

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Originally Posted by Chewie-1990

You know what I mean! My bad, I meant, as I mentioned earlier, Prodrive run AMR

Sorry I am not very good at Intuiting via electronic devices!

The post that I quoted and responded to said nothing of Prodrive running AMR but in fact suggested that they were separate entities.

L.P.

Chewie-1990 · 28 May 2007, 18:13 (Ref:1923082)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Makes sense. With Mercedes factory driver Paffet joining the Prodrive F1 team. I think David Richards has denied AM will enter F1.

He has, the F1 project is all Prodrive. I think both Gary and Pedro are rumoured for race seats aren't they? We'll find out at the British GP

Chewie-1990 · 28 May 2007, 18:14 (Ref:1923083)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

The post that I quoted and responded to said nothing of Prodrive running AMR but in fact suggested that they were separate entities.

OK, but what about the 'Prodrive runs AMR yes' part, i think that does

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