2021 ARG S5000 Championship

[chavez]

The 2021 ARG S5000 championship kicks of this weekend (Jan 24th to Jan 26th) at Symmons Plains in Tasmania.

After a couple of races in 2019 and a couple of sessions at the aborted 2020 AGP, the V8 openwheelers are set to return.

While not a larger field, hopefully it will be a competitive field.

[Formulahistory]

Very nice. But only 5 cars entered so far. Unfortunately no Barrichello or Fisichella...

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by Formulahistory

Very nice. But only 5 cars entered so far. Unfortunately no Barrichello or Fisichella...

It can only be local drivers participatimg for the forseeable surely?

[275 GTB-4]

I hope the series does well...open wheelers can have a tough time gaining traction in some quarters of Aussie Motorsport...(pun intended!)

[kramer]

Originally Posted by Formulahistory

Very nice. But only 5 cars entered so far. Unfortunately no Barrichello or Fisichella...

Entries have doubled (according to Auto Action) - still not enough, but it's a good start.

I'd rather a combined Formula Libre - F2, 3, superannuated FHolden and the like.

But I've been married a long time and I'm used to not getting what I want.


Kramer

[bloxsidgemotorsport]

I cant wait for this series to begin, if I'm ever in the position of running a team, it would be a squad of s5000.

Lets hope it gets good reviews and coverage. 11 entries I believe, hopefully picks up on the mainland.

[275 GTB-4]

Originally Posted by chunterer

It can only be local drivers participatimg for the forseeable surely?

Shirley! But what if they are wealthy and famous enough to be welcomed with open arms by one of our "accommodating" state Premiers or Chief Ministers...

[2 litre Touring Car Star]

I'm not confident of this class flourishing. The only way I see it can is if it's a cost effective stepping stone series. When I say "stepping stone series", I mean straight to F1 and Indycar, not S5000 - GP2/Indy Lights - F1/Indycar.

It could also be a better stepping stone for Supercars (Similar to how FHolden/Brabham was) than Super 2. But then that would eat into Super 2, so that would be an interesting development.

[bathurst77]

11 cars at symmonds
the cars look and sound great and are fast.
They look (and definitely sound) better than f1.

As to not a stepping stone.. well it is step up from formula ford
maybe they need to re introduce "driver to europe" or arrange that the series winner gets a track day in f3 or f2 in europe

Strange to race on a monday thats not a public holiday

[bathurst77]

49.86 Thomas Randle S5000
over 40 years they had that lap record, and somebody goes and breaks it.
this is why you cant have nice things

[Tourer]

Originally Posted by 2 litre Touring Car Star

I'm not confident of this class flourishing. The only way I see it can is if it's a cost effective stepping stone series. When I say "stepping stone series", I mean straight to F1 and Indycar, not S5000 - GP2/Indy Lights - F1/Indycar.

Early days but without ongoing financial support it's a bit hard to see it flourishing, as you say. Given that the S5000 cars would be slower than current F3, then going straight to F1 unlikely although Indycar might be possible for a driver with money.

Originally Posted by bathurst77

11 cars at symmonds
the cars look and sound great and are fast.
They look (and definitely sound) better than f1.

I think my neighbour's Victa sounds better than current F1!

Not personally convinced about S5000 yet - but we've had so few race meetings with them taking part due to Covid so we'll all be able to get a better idea of what they're really like this year (hopefully).

[275 GTB-4]

I enjoyed the S5000's...the only slight criticism was that some could say that they are just V8 Supercars with out a Sedan body...

I know in these days of parity/level playing fields and like the old Carnival Barkers used to shout "Roll Up! Roll Up! Everyone wins a prize!"...maybe they should allow some freedom with body/aero design?

waiting for the pile on wrt to series costs and interchangeability of parts...and only the well-heeled with have access to wind tunnels etc etc etc

and Ohhhh by the way...if it can work for Historic F1 why not S5000?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...e_Championship

[275 GTB-4]

Several tracks/dates to access as well as these...

FEB 19 - 21
PHILLIP ISLAND GRAND PRIX CIRCUIT
Shannons Motorsport Australia Championships

APR 2 - 4
MOUNT PANORAMA, BATHURST
Hi-Tec Oils Bathurst 6 Hour

APR 30 - 2
SYDNEY MOTORSPORT PARK
Shannons Motorsport Australia Championships

JUN 25 - 27
MORGAN PARK RACEWAY
Shannons Motorsport Australia Championships

SEP 10 - 12
SANDOWN INTERNATIONAL RACEWAY
Shannons Motorsport Australia Championships

[2 litre Touring Car Star]

Originally Posted by 275 GTB-4

I enjoyed the S5000's...the only slight criticism was that some could say that they are just V8 Supercars with out a Sedan body...

I know in these days of parity/level playing fields and like the old Carnival Barkers used to shout "Roll Up! Roll Up! Everyone wins a prize!"...maybe they should allow some freedom with body/aero design?

waiting for the pile on wrt to series costs and interchangeability of parts...and only the well-heeled with have access to wind tunnels etc etc etc

and Ohhhh by the way...if it can work for Historic F1 why not S5000?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...e_Championship

Since the problem most open classes have is blowout of costs. The only way thiscould happen is if you said - If you want to win, you have to get a S5000 as it is. However, if you can make a less expensive version that is comparable but couldn't win or podium (Unless it was a particularly talented driver in the wet).

That way you can still compete in a national level class on tv, and trade off being an underdog,

[Oldtony]

Interesting weekends racing in the S5000 class at Phillip Island.
2 dry and one (very) wet races.
Interestingly the wet race didn't provide the viewing on TV you might expect, and that fans look forward too, not because of the action but simply you just couldn't see it through the spray on the TV.
Mixed set of results but promising in the talent exposed and the build up for the rest of the series.
Good to see Alf Costanzo being given the honour of presenting the Trophy after the final race.

[bludvl_x19]

Originally Posted by Oldtony

Interesting weekends racing in the S5000 class at Phillip Island.
2 dry and one (very) wet races.
Interestingly the wet race didn't provide the viewing on TV you might expect, and that fans look forward too, not because of the action but simply you just couldn't see it through the spray on the TV.
Mixed set of results but promising in the talent exposed and the build up for the rest of the series.
Good to see Alf Costanzo being given the honour of presenting the Trophy after the final race.

Being there in person, the rooster tails from the cars wafting above and over the pit lane was awesome. And the light mist caused by it was more welcome than the driving rain.

Small addition to that, he presented the Alf Costanzo Trophy.

[johnh875]

A tough race, agreed the tv probably didn't do it justice, but that's why you go to the track. Great drive by Cooper Webster to hold off Thomas Randle in the wet, will be quite the confidence boost.

[chavez]

With only one round remaining Joey Mawson has taken the lead in the championship.

Randle had a shocking weekend, and Macrow's was not much better.

[bludvl_x19]

Randle's weekend wasn't helped by the first race balls up, and subsequent parking at T5.

[NaBUru38]

I read the thread title and thought "Super 5000 in Argentina!?"

[E.B]

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

I read the thread title and thought "Super 5000 in Argentina!?"

FYI ARG in this instance stands for 'Australian Racing Group' and they in turn own / control the S5000 series recently launched in Australia. They also own the rights to run TCR in Aus and other series

[bludvl_x19]

Perhaps a better thread title might be "Australian Gold Star/ S5000"

[275 GTB-4]

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

I read the thread title and thought "Super 5000 in Argentina!?"

Argentina and Australia...both famous for fabulous beef steaks and good Rugby players

[E.B]

Originally Posted by bludvl_x19

Perhaps a better thread title might be "Australian Gold Star/ S5000"

This makes sense.

[2 litre Touring Car Star]

The grid interviews remind me of Formula Holden coverage in 1991!