the best grand prix of all time/best gp since 90'

nreed · 30 Jan 2002, 21:40 (Ref:206942)

what was the best race of all time?

best race since 90?

meaning excitement/outcome, etc......

nicker less · 30 Jan 2002, 21:45 (Ref:206946)

'91 Canada

'95 Canada
'98 Belgium, because it was so weird.
'99 Australia
'01 Brazil

nreed · 30 Jan 2002, 21:59 (Ref:206961)

thanks nicker less, i thought this topic would be good as i figured id get alot of different replys. I agree on 95' canada as being one. I'm a huge Alesi fan. 98' monaco always stands out in my mind simply because of the schumi vs. wurz wheel banging, it was amazing. 01' brazil for the same reason substitute montoya for wurz. any race with mind boggling wheel to wheel racing stands out. as well as maiden or lone wins like alesi's 95' win. of course there's any good race for nigel, when he's hot he's the best and certainly the most exciting, i think montoya will bring back his bullist attempts to gain position and win.

facco · 30 Jan 2002, 22:31 (Ref:206985)

What About Donington'93,Japan '01?
I agree on Brazil '01

Patrese256 · 30 Jan 2002, 22:59 (Ref:207011)

While Donington '93 while go down in history is was essentially over as a race after the first lap.
It's hard to pick a race as a whole because individual incidents stick in the memory more but I'd vote for Adelaide '94 I think. Forgetting how it ended - please don't rehash that debate

- the race was drama of the highest order. The title at stake, the two contenders head to head, pitting on the same lap, Schumacher withstanding relentless pressure from Hill until...we know the rest. Once it happened there were so many what if's and at the end of it all was Mansell's victory.

f1manoz · 30 Jan 2002, 23:02 (Ref:207013)

Hungarian GP 1992. (who'd of though eh?

)

Mansell coming from miles back to take second place and wrap up the World Championship.

jclab · 31 Jan 2002, 01:28 (Ref:207068)

Europe 97 in Jerez

Remember J. Villeneuve's pass on M.Schumacher for the World title!

Ray Bell · 31 Jan 2002, 02:22 (Ref:207078)

All time?

In my experience, Australian Grand Prix, 1965.

The nineties?

Probably that Hungarian race... or the one where Nige lost the wheel.

nreed · 31 Jan 2002, 02:39 (Ref:207088)

all very good answers so far, i knew races where nigel was heavily involved would turn up. no coincedence i think. hungary 92 was good, but the when his wheel nut came loose was one that sticks out beacuse he wouldve had another title. other races mentioned seem to involve tgf running a potential wdc contender off the road (damon/jacques). not quite the same way ayrton did it.

Raoul Duke · 31 Jan 2002, 04:35 (Ref:207122)

For personal reasons I'd have to nominate Argentina 97, because it was what turned me into a Ralf fan.

In terms of excitment/outcome there are quite a few I could nominate. Germany 2000, Magny Cours 2000 come to mind as well as Canada 2001, seeing Ralf beat his brother in a straight fight was very satisfying for me.

And, finally, of course, Jerez 97 for obvious reasons

.

timbo2001 · 31 Jan 2002, 05:33 (Ref:207146)

Quote:

Originally posted by Ray Bell
All time?

In my experience, Australian Grand Prix, 1965.

The nineties?

Probably that Hungarian race... or the one where Nige lost the wheel.

I didn't even know there was an australian gp in 1965. where was it held?

Ray Bell · 31 Jan 2002, 05:47 (Ref:207150)

Let me break it to you gently... the Australian GP has a history going back to 1927, when it was held at the Racecourse at Goulburn, NSW... check the thread 'The FIRST Australian GP' in the Historic forum...

Officially, the 1928 "One Hundred Miles Road Race" at Phillip Island is recognised as the first Australian GP, then following the succession of Grands Prix at Phillip Island (on a public road course) until 1935. The 1936 "South Australian Centenary Grand Prix" was then drafted into the lineage after its running, it becoming listed as the 1937 Australian GP.

Bathurst was the site of the 1938 event, Lobethal (swoon!) in 1939, then Bathurst again in 1947, Point Cook (Vic) in 1948, Leyburn (Qld) in 1949, Nuriootpa (SA) in 1950, Narrogin (WA) in 1951, Bathurst in 1952, Albert Park (quite different to today's Albert Park, and run in the opposite direction) in 1953, Southport (Qld, again public roads) in 1954, Port Wakefield (SA) in 1955, Albert Park again in 1956 (the regular placement around the states interrupted to gain exposure with the Olympic Games), Caversham (WA) in 1957, Bathurst in 1958, Longford (Tasmania) in 1959, Lowood (Qld) in 1960, Mallala (SA) in 1961, Caversham in 1962 and then it followed the Tasman Series circuits for the next eight years.

Warwick Farm (1963, 1967), Sandown Park (1964, 1968), Lakeside (1966, 1969), Longford in 1965, which is the answer to your question.

The race was then settled at Warwick Farm in 1970 and 71 as the promoters were trying to gain World Championship inclusion, but moved to Sandown for 1973, Oran Park in 1974 after the Farm closed, Surfers Paradise in 1975, Sandown again in 1976, Oran Park in 1977, Sandown in 1978, Wanneroo Park (WA) in 1979, then Calder 1980 to 1984 inclusive before Adelaide hosted the first WDC race here.

There's a great book about the races up to and including 1985, called "The Official 50-race History of the Australian Grand Prix"... look for it. It's huge, but well worth reading.

timbo2001 · 31 Jan 2002, 05:52 (Ref:207152)

Quote:

Originally posted by Ray Bell
Let me break it to you gently... the Australian GP has a history going back to 1927, when it was held at the Racecourse at Goulburn, NSW... check the thread 'The FIRST Australian GP' in the Historic forum...

Officially, the 1928 "One Hundred Miles Road Race" at Phillip Island is recognised as the first Australian GP, then following the succession of Grands Prix at Phillip Island (on a public road course) until 1935. The 1936 "South Australian Centenary Grand Prix" was then drafted into the lineage after its running, it becoming listed as the 1937 Australian GP.

Bathurst was the site of the 1938 event, Lobethal (swoon!) in 1939, then Bathurst again in 1947, Point Cook (Vic) in 1948, Leyburn (Qld) in 1949, Nuriootpa (SA) in 1950, Narrogin (WA) in 1951, Bathurst in 1952, Albert Park (quite different to today's Albert Park, and run in the opposite direction) in 1953, Southport (Qld, again public roads) in 1954, Port Wakefield (SA) in 1955, Albert Park again in 1956 (the regular placement around the states interrupted to gain exposure with the Olympic Games), Caversham (WA) in 1957, Bathurst in 1958, Longford (Tasmania) in 1959, Lowood (Qld) in 1960, Mallala (SA) in 1961, Caversham in 1962 and then it followed the Tasman Series circuits for the next eight years.

Warwick Farm (1963, 1967), Sandown Park (1964, 1968), Lakeside (1966, 1969), Longford in 1965, which is the answer to your question.

The race was then settled at Warwick Farm in 1970 and 71 as the promoters were trying to gain World Championship inclusion, but moved to Sandown for 1973, Oran Park in 1974 after the Farm closed, Surfers Paradise in 1975, Sandown again in 1976, Oran Park in 1977, Sandown in 1978, Wanneroo Park (WA) in 1979, then Calder 1980 to 1984 inclusive before Adelaide hosted the first WDC race here.

There's a great book about the races up to and including 1985, called "The Official 50-race History of the Australian Grand Prix"... look for it. It's huge, but well worth reading.

Geez, well I never would have thought. Show's how much I know about Australia's racing history. Thanks for all that info mate

Mr V · 31 Jan 2002, 06:29 (Ref:207171)

monaco '92.......japan '96.........spa '98.......oz '99.......nurburg '99 and monza '01

racer69 · 31 Jan 2002, 11:00 (Ref:207248)

Suzuka 1990
Australian GP 1991 & 1992 & 1994
French and Nurburgring 1999

bulldogspirit · 31 Jan 2002, 12:58 (Ref:207324)

My 3 most memorable GPs are:
Monaco 96 - Olivier Panis' finest hour
Japan 96 - Damon's title
USA 89 - Alesi and Senna battling around Phoenix

Ray Bell · 31 Jan 2002, 13:40 (Ref:207378)

How come nobody has mentioned the French GP of 1979?

Just two laps of that set GP racing afire...

Speed · 31 Jan 2002, 14:47 (Ref:207425)

Quote:

Originally posted by Ray Bell
How come nobody has mentioned the French GP of 1979?

That's because I hadn't seen this thread before !!!

Dijon '79... Villeneuve & Arnoux were awesome for the second place !!!

PS: I agree Facco, Donington '93 is a gem !

And respect to 2001, I think Indy was a great example of the hunter-style, JPM has...

Jonny Apex · 31 Jan 2002, 15:15 (Ref:207433)

Of all time: Monza five abreast across line, anything with a red Martini Brabham Alfa in it, 79 Dijon of course, anything from 82 or 83, particularly 82 Monaco, Austria or Swiss (Dijon) or 83 Zandvoort. 85 Paul Ricard - a cracker, Brands GP 85 (not because Nige won but for Rosberg's comeback drive - likewise South Africa 85 at Kyalami). '89 Suzuka. Just a few, I'm sure there's plenty more I've missed.

Of the 90s. 91 Brazil for Senna's effort and 92 Monaco just for the last seven laps. '95 Nurburgring, where whimp Alesi let Schumacher do him, 95 Spa for Schuey making a fool out of Hill and everyone else, 96 Monaco for Panis's win, 97 Jerez.

Good memories

Tris · 31 Jan 2002, 15:45 (Ref:207445)

Quote:

Originally posted by Speed
That's because I hadn't seen this thread before !!!

Dijon '79... Villeneuve & Arnoux were awesome for the second place !!!

Damn right!!!

Possibly the Spanish GP of 1981 was a better race for Gilles... IMHO his best win. the 82 Monaco race was weird alright!! All teh crashes and feul problems in teh last few laps hee hee!!

Great races.... talk about short memories!!

I think Suzuka 1994 was a great race... loads of tension after the restart.

O-ring in 1982.. Rosberg and DeAngelis... wow!!

Canda 78... Gilles ability demonstarted to remarkable effect.

Sena's best race must be his win @ Interlagos..

Before 1980 I am not quite sure... I'll have to think!

nreed · 31 Jan 2002, 16:23 (Ref:207473)

still all great races so far. dijon 79' definately a great 1 with one of my alltime favoritesw villenueve battling it out with arnoux. also senna's win at interlagos was great. his home gp. with nigel chasing...always good viewing.

nicker less · 31 Jan 2002, 18:19 (Ref:207536)

Forgot about Monaco '96. Great race and Panis only win

. And Ligiers last.

Nicholas · 31 Jan 2002, 19:39 (Ref:207612)

Quote:

Originally posted by Patrese256
and at the end of it all was Mansell's victory. [/COLOR]

It never occured to me that there were any other drivers at Adelaide '94 except for TGF and Hill... I didn't know it was Mansell who won!

Damon · 31 Jan 2002, 19:51 (Ref:207644)

Yep, and it was the first time I've been disappoited with a race that Mansell won.

My favourite ever have to be:
Donnington '93
Barcelona '92 (great Mansell win in awful weather)
the end of Monaco '92
Suzuka '96
Belgium '98
Jerez '97 (Brundell:"It won't work this time sunshine")
the list goes on and on...

paulzinho · 1 Feb 2002, 23:02 (Ref:208640)

Donington 93
Monaco 92
Suzuka 91
Brazil 91
Portugal 85
Monaco 84

Also:
Malaysia 01
Suzuka 00
Magny Cours 99
Belgium 98
Spain 96

Going Further back:
Dijon 79
Monza 71
Nurburgring 57

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Grand Prix Manager : French Grand Prix results	Wrex	Formula One	4	10 Jul 2003 10:25
Grand Prix Manager : French Grand Prix	Asp	Formula One	6	3 Jul 2003 10:31
Grand Prix expected to move to prime time	¡As-de-mim!	ChampCar World Series	10	14 Jan 2003 17:23
All-time Grand Prix MEGA-team	crash	Formula One	2	17 Oct 2000 09:26