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Old 26 Apr 2003, 21:04 (Ref:581659)   #1
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Best DTM Livery

What do you think is the best DTM livery of 2003, for each car and overall?

Audi - Tomczyk/Terting
Mercedes - Kaneishi
Opel - Winkelhock/Bleekemolen

Overall - Audi!

http://www.dtm.de/rennen/01-hockenhe...04-27i&lang=en
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Old 27 Apr 2003, 07:47 (Ref:581872)   #2
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flor should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridflor should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
i go for Kaneishi, Alesi and Menu

s-line looks best on the audis but overall not that good

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Old 27 Apr 2003, 07:53 (Ref:581874)   #3
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i go for ekström, tomczyk, fässler
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Old 27 Apr 2003, 10:53 (Ref:581959)   #4
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Menus car looks a bit old-fashioned. Maybe it is better in real life.
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I like the Audis of Tomczyk and Terting.
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Old 27 Apr 2003, 18:15 (Ref:582262)   #7
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I like the Vodafone car.
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Old 27 Apr 2003, 18:22 (Ref:582269)   #8
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I don't like the livery of Bleekemolen and Menu. The blue Mercedes 24H looks also great.

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I've always found the MB cars with the "exposed" engine paint scheme to be very cool. I never knew GMAC existed in Europe? I thought it would be something like Opel AC or something like that! When I see GMAC, I think of Nascar!
I am disappointed to see Oase never renewed their sponsorship! It was nice to see some green in the field!

What happened to Warsteiner? Too bad Diebels Alt or Jagermeister have not returned! Or how about ProMarkt??

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Old 28 Apr 2003, 07:05 (Ref:582525)   #11
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The Black MB cars,and the Aubi ABT cars look the best
 
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Qutie like Aiello's and Abts new paint job.
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I am saddened to hear Oase is bankrupt! =(
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Old 28 Apr 2003, 17:33 (Ref:583029)   #14
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What happened to Eschmann Stahl?
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Old 28 Apr 2003, 18:02 (Ref:583057)   #15
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well it's a bit hard to explain, one of eschmanns company airplanes had an accident on the milano airport, a collision with another plane and some people died if i remember right, since then he stopped his sponsoring
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I am saddened to hear Oase is bankrupt! =(
i think the police hunted the managing director, he left the country, i don't know if they got him now
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Hmmm, this doesn't look good. Does sponsorship in the DTM give you bad luck or something?? Oase, Eschmann, who else I wonder? Don't tell me Warsteiner had something happen to them as well? I don't see an Warsteiner cars this year?

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Old 28 Apr 2003, 19:22 (Ref:583122)   #18
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they are sponsoring other sport events now, they think they can't win more attention with the dtm since every dtm fan knows them now
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they are sponsoring other sport events now, they think they can't win more attention with the dtm since every dtm fan knows them now
Very true indeed! Perhaps they should or have already gone after the V8 Star crowd. That is an interesting series. Too bad no Works teams.
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Old 28 Apr 2003, 21:12 (Ref:583206)   #20
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the problem is there is no v8star crowd and nearly all v8star teams have financial problems. i doubt v8star will exist in 2004.
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Damn. No, really. Well, actually I'm lying. I think V8-STAR was a non-starter. No room for it, no need for it, no support for it. Maybe Zakspeed and Irmscher will get back into the DTM now...
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zakspeed and irmscher in dtm would be great! as flor said, i doubt that v8star is existing next year, the fans they had are now complaining about the high ticket prices (they race as a support act at the german 500 for example) and there are only 16 cars, with maybe 3 drivers that can really win races...furthermore the marketing sucks, well actually there is no marketing

if zakspeed enters dtm, they should take lechner with them he´s great
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While I agree there are just too many global touring car series, this stubborn individual (me!) kinda supports the V8 Stars b/c the series races 4 door cars! As well, you get such interesting cars like the Jag S Type!

I am saddened to hear the series is in such dire financial trouble. I think in this day and age, drawing 16 car fields isn't bad? Heck, the BTCC isn't doing much better? Ditto for the ETCC?

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I also have nothing against V8Stars series. I it's very compative, not (so) expensive, different body shells and a nice sound.

But the they made a big mistake by not taking part in the Beru Top 10 series.
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