Harewood Hillclimb - 14th May

Steve Wilkinson · 14 May 2006, 22:38 (Ref:1609945)

NME British Hillclimb Championship Rd 7
1 Scott Moran (3.5 Gould-NME GR61) 62.97s;
2 Martin Groves (3.5 Gould-NME GR55) 63.52s;
3 Roger Moran (3.5 Gould-NME GR61) 64.16s;
4 Chris Merrick (4.0 Gould-Judd EV GR55) 64.71s;
5 Simon Durling (2.65 Gould-NME GR55) 65.14s;
6 Tom New (2.0 Pilbeam-QED V6 MP88) 65.82s;
7 Willem Toet (2.65t Pilbeam-Cosworth HD MP88) 67.03s;
8 Jon Waggitt (2.0 Reynard-Vauxhall 903) 67.09s;
9 Tim Wilson (1.4 OMS-Suzuki/SBD CF04) 67.29s;
10 Mike Dean (3.5 Gould-NME GR55) 67.47s;
11 Paul Ranson (3.5 Gould-NME GR55) 67.54s;
12 Basil Pitt (3.5 Gould-NME GR55C) 68.56s.

NME British Hillclimb Championship Rd 8
1 Groves 54.10s;
2 Roger Moran 55.94s;
3 Durling 56.72s;
4 Scott Moran 60.32s;
5 Chris Guille (2.0 OMS-Vauxhall CF04) 60.71s;
6 Ranson 61.00s;
7 Pitt 61.02s;
8 New 61.15s;
9 Merrick 62.29s;
10 Waggitt 63.92s;
Wilson – failed;
Dean – failed.

NME British Hillclimb Championship Positions:
1 Martin Grooves 68 pts
2 Scott Moran 67 pts
3 Roger Moran 66 pts
4 Simon Durling 57 pts
5= Mike Dean and Rob Turnbull 27 pts

Weather damp and miserable - AGAIN!

Spins a-plenty as both Tim Wilson and Mike Dean spun out of the second Top 12 Run-off and Willem Toet ahd TWO grassy moments on his second qualifying shot which he duly aborted.

wi11iamm · 15 May 2006, 07:32 (Ref:1610221)

Why the big time differences in the second run-off? Did the track dry as cars were being collected?

Steve Wilkinson · 15 May 2006, 08:08 (Ref:1610253)

Quote:

Originally Posted by wi11iamm

Why the big time differences in the second run-off? Did the track dry as cars were being collected?

Good question Will, glad someone is paying attention!

Scott Moran was second up and posted a 60.32. Tim Wilson had his grassy moment running fifth then Deano had his detour running seventh. It was Simon Durling who put in the step change by attacking the course in search of that elusive first championship win. Once Roger & Martin got the message they were up for it. I really thought Roger had done enough but Martin's determination and phenominal car control just won through. The track was just as slippery at the end of the run-off as it had been at the start as was demonstarted by Groovey's spin as he crossed the line at Quarry.

quickbadgers · 15 May 2006, 08:56 (Ref:1610306)

I have to disagree with that one, when we went down it was touch and go what tyres to go on. Tom New even went down on all wets, myself, Tim Wilson and Jon Waggit went on wets at the front and slicks on the rear.

After Deano and Tim's offs which took a while to recover and the feedback Roger and Martin had from Scott and Paul it was definitely slicks.

Chris

Paul Ranson · 15 May 2006, 09:18 (Ref:1610326)

I chose slicks and wet map. There were large black damp patches in the Esses and round Chippies. By the end of the runoff it was slicks and definitely dry map. It wasn't raining and there was some wind, plus some traffic. The track dried.

I don't know where Steve was watching from...

Paul

Steve Wilkinson · 15 May 2006, 09:57 (Ref:1610362)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ranson

I chose slicks and wet map. There were large black damp patches in the Esses and round Chippies. By the end of the runoff it was slicks and definitely dry map. It wasn't raining and there was some wind, plus some traffic. The track dried.

I don't know where Steve was watching from...

Paul

Quarry - which didn't seem to differ in grip from the start of the second run-off to when Groovey when spinning.

wi11iamm · 15 May 2006, 11:09 (Ref:1610425)

If scott put in a run without any mistakes(?) I doubt he would be 6 seconds of the winning time had the track conditions remained the same..(?)

Who won the 2 litre class?

pilbeam buddy · 15 May 2006, 11:14 (Ref:1610429)

when i left line it was touch and go wether inters or slicks were the best choice when on track i wished i could have had slick frts instaed of inters and maybe wouldn't have understeered off after farmhouse,i can assur you steve game had been upped and i was up on the leading time at that point.

the real question is what the hell was going on in first run off when i was sitting at startline for 15 mins waiting for timing gear to be fixed just enough time for everyone behind me to go from slicks to wets (funny that )before stoppage i was looking pretty smug on inters,that soon changed when heavens opened.

i have been held on startline for 3 run offs now getting abit peeved.

moose

pilbeam buddy · 15 May 2006, 11:16 (Ref:1610432)

ralf it was drying all the time i went quicker up to farmhouse than i had when track was dry for 1st qualifying run.just very patchy in the bends

wi11iamm · 15 May 2006, 11:32 (Ref:1610446)

rite. trouble is when the weather is mixed like that someone is bound to loose out. delays dont help though

pilbeam buddy · 15 May 2006, 11:59 (Ref:1610474)

ralf
bigpaws won 2 litre class

pilbeam buddy · 15 May 2006, 12:01 (Ref:1610476)

although fair play to quivk badgers he did beat both of us in 2nd run off

wi11iamm · 15 May 2006, 12:23 (Ref:1610495)

yer good result from both of them

big paws got loads of points in champ. just need some more wet rounds so I can get a chance to score some!

Steve Wilkinson · 15 May 2006, 13:30 (Ref:1610557)

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilbeam buddy

the real question is what the hell was going on in first run off when i was sitting at startline for 15 mins waiting for timing gear to be fixed just enough time for everyone behind me to go from slicks to wets (funny that )before stoppage i was looking pretty smug on inters,that soon changed when heavens opened.

i have been held on startline for 3 run offs now getting abit peeved.

moose

Well I couldn't possibly say but I thought it was diabolical. As the weather worsened those already down in the queue were left in the lurch!

I don't know what you do in those circumstances - restart the run-off?

Steve Wilkinson · 15 May 2006, 13:32 (Ref:1610559)

Quote:

Originally Posted by wi11iamm

yer good result from both of them

big paws got loads of points in champ. just need some more wet rounds so I can get a chance to score some!

By the way, do you have a Doctor's note explaining your absence over the week-end? Or was it due to the duff plumbing in the Reynard?

Paul Ranson · 15 May 2006, 15:11 (Ref:1610672)

Quote:

the real question is what the hell was going on in first run off when i was sitting at startline for 15 mins waiting for timing gear to be fixed just enough time for everyone behind me to go from slicks to wets

You could have said you needed to change. The how is a bit trickier.

The real issue is why are cars sent down the hill and then made to wait? What takes so long with the timing between the end of a set of timed runs and a run off? It would be nice to know.

Paul

pilbeam buddy · 15 May 2006, 16:43 (Ref:1610771)

moose news up on
http://2t4t.dnsalias.com/

enjoy

wi11iamm · 15 May 2006, 17:11 (Ref:1610801)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Wilkinson

By the way, do you have a Doctor's note explaining your absence over the week-end? Or was it due to the duff plumbing in the Reynard?

No doctors note, will be sorted by Gurston.

Nice pic at top of report Moose

Ralf

Jimbo88 · 15 May 2006, 23:00 (Ref:1611068)

In a slight aside; Congrats to Sandra Tomlin for FTD at Harewood on sat, rubbish weather but a worthy drive to post 59.3 seconds.

Any info from Shelsley, did Deryk take the spoils?

**Woolley** · 15 May 2006, 23:23 (Ref:1611082)

Deryk did, and got under 26s twice in very iffy conditions, not bad considering there was no real competition to spur him on. Sue was a little more circumspect, but still went very well. I wouldn't bet against the ladies record being broken again this year.

An interesting set of results from Harewood. Good to see the leader board being so unpredictable, although the weather may be affecting that. (Drought? Not on the hills, anyway). Some effective runs from Chris Merrick and Simon Durling by the looks of it, and do I surmise that Basil Pitt is getting comfortable with the new car? And what's that with Chris Guille in fifth? That must have been quite a climb.

Steve Wilkinson · 16 May 2006, 08:10 (Ref:1611279)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woolley

And what's that with Chris Guille in fifth? That must have been quite a climb.

Chris was overjoyed just to get in the run-off!

AndyMil · 16 Aug 2006, 09:47 (Ref:1683981)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ranson

You could have said you needed to change. The how is a bit trickier.

The real issue is why are cars sent down the hill and then made to wait? What takes so long with the timing between the end of a set of timed runs and a run off? It would be nice to know.

Paul

They have to reset the clocks

that's what they tell us marshals anyway, if someone knows what this means can you please enlighten eveyone else, if not I will endeavour to find out next week at Harewood.

Steve Wilkinson · 16 Aug 2006, 11:41 (Ref:1684079)

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyMil

They have to reset the clocks

that's what they tell us marshals anyway, if someone knows what this means can you please enlighten eveyone else, if not I will endeavour to find out next week at Harewood.

The problem seems to be with the software. Several timekeepers run the same stuff and what happens is they treat each set of timed runs as one job lot. This unfortunately includes each run-off. So they have to download the times before starting again. The delay after the first timed runs is greater as they have more data to download before they can start the run-off. MST are looking into producing a new version of the software to get round this 'built in delay'.

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