2011 Silly Season (Merged x5)

**GTRMagic** · 26 May 2010, 23:23 (Ref:2698922)

Yes its early, but there is a bit out there suggesting what's going on for next year already, no reason not to talk about it..

I would think its a safe bet that there will be more team/REC changes across the season change, pilots swapping teams, retiring, new guys/gals coming in, sponsors changing, coming in, poached, running away...

Change is the only constant...

STEALTHY · 26 May 2010, 23:34 (Ref:2698926)

Requesting that this thread be a list free zone (and make a list thread for the listy people)

F J Nedos · 26 May 2010, 23:39 (Ref:2698927)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Change is the only constant...

Silly season threads are also a constant! It had to happen...

I wonder how many other threads will be merged with this one

As this thread is a brand spanker, can we start off by prompting what we currently think might happen? An example:

HRT : Driver of #22?
FART (Ford Australia Racing Team) : Driver of #6?
DJR : Driver of #17?
FART (again) : Driver of #55?
SBR : Anything on the driver of #4?

I'm not going to do a full list of teams, drivers, sponsors, engine manufacturers, chassis manufacturers. I am sure there are others out there who just loooooove that...

**GTRMagic** · 27 May 2010, 00:09 (Ref:2698936)

My guess

HRT : Driver of #22 - T.D'Alberto
FART (Ford Australia Racing Team) : Driver of #6 - S.Richards
DJR : Driver of #17 - W.Davison
FART (again) : Driver of #55 - J.Moffat
SBR : Anything on the driver of #4 - Nope

Axeman444 · 27 May 2010, 03:20 (Ref:2698989)

at the expense of any fantasy lists, how about a list of people contracted for a drive? agreed that contracts aren't always real, but at least we can keep track of confirmed drives

otherwise:
HRT : Driver of #22 - agree T.D'Alberto
FART (Ford Australia Racing Team) : Driver of #6 - I hope anyone other than S.Richards
DJR : Driver of #17 - no idea, assume Jnr will trot out the "unsigned and looking" discussion, only to turn up in the #17 come tour de sandpit
FART (again) : Driver of #55 - Dumbrell, unless he goes to corporate land, then J.Moffat
SBR : Anything on the driver of #4 - What would i know... but doubt Davo Snr to be there, unless he has a contract

MarcosAmbroseFan · 27 May 2010, 04:58 (Ref:2699000)

#	REC	Car	Engine	Preparer	Major Sponsor	Brand	Driver	Solid?
2	WP	HRT	WP	WP	Toll	Commodore	G.Tander	Solid
3	TDR	WP	WP	TDR	Bellmont	Commodore	S.Price	Likely
4	SBR	SBR	SBR	SBR	Irwin Tools	Falcon	A.Davison	Solid
5	FPR	FPR	FPR	FPR	Orrcon Steel	Falcon	M.Winterbottom	Solid
6	FPR	FPR	FPR	FPR	Norton 360	Falcon	J.Moffat	Likely
7	KR	KR	KR	KR	Jack Daniels	Commodore	T.Kelly	Solid
8	BJR	WP	WP	BJR	BOC	Commodore	J.Richards	Solid
9	SBR	SBR	SBR	SBR	SP Tools	Falcon	S.van Gisbergen	Solid
10	WP	WP	WP	WP	Bundaberg Rum	Commodore	D.Reynolds	Solid
11	PER	KR	KR	KR	Rock Enery	Commodore	J.Bargwanna	Solid
12	FFF	888	KRE	FFF	TBA	Falcon	D.Fiore	Solid
14	BJR	WP	WP	BJR	Trading Post	Commodore	J.Bright	Solid
15	KR	KR	KR	KR	Jack Daniels	Commodore	R.Kelly	Solid
16	PER	KR	KR	KR	Metaland	Commodore	O.Kelly	Likely
17	DJR	888	DJR	DJR	Jim Beam	Falcon	W.Davison	Likely
18	DJR	888	DJR	DJR	Jim Beam	Falcon	J.Courtney	Solid
19	Tekno	888	DJR	DJR	Tekno	Falcon	J.Webb	Solid
21	Britek	WP	WP	BJR	Fair Dinkum Sheds	Commodore	K.Reindler	Solid
22	WP	HRT	WP	WP	Toll	Commodore	T.D’Alberto	Likely
24	WP	WP	WP	WP	Bundaberg Rum	Commodore	F.Coulthard	Solid
30	LDR	WP	WP	LDR	Gulf Western Oils	Commodore	D.Gaunt	Likely
33	GRM	GRM	WP	GRM	Fujitsu	Commodore	L.Holdsworth	Solid
34	GRM	GRM	WP	GRM	Fujitsu	Commodore	M.Caruso	Solid
39	PMM	888	KRE	PMM	SuperCheap	Commodore	R.Ingall	Solid
47	JRR	SBR	SBR	SBR	Wilson Sercuity	Falcon	T.Slade	Solid
51	PMM	888	KRE	PMM	Castrol EDGE	Commodore	G.Murphy	Solid
55	RNR	FPR	FPR	FPR	Bottle O	Falcon	P.Dumbrell	Solid
88	888	888	KRE	888	Vodafone	Commodore	J.Whincup	Solid
888	888	888	KRE	888	Vodafone	Commodore	C.Lowndes	Solid

Razor · 27 May 2010, 05:43 (Ref:2699008)

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarcosAmbroseFan

#	REC	Car	Engine	Preparer	Major Sponsor	Brand	Driver	Solid?
2	WP	HRT	WP	WP	Toll	Commodore	G.Tander	Solid
3	TDR	WP	WP	TDR	Bellmont	Commodore	S.Price	Likely
4	SBR	SBR	SBR	SBR	Irwin Tools	Falcon	A.Davison	Solid
5	FPR	FPR	FPR	FPR	Orrcon Steel	Falcon	M.Winterbottom	Solid
6	FPR	FPR	FPR	FPR	Norton 360	Falcon	J.Moffat	Likely
7	KR	KR	KR	KR	Jack Daniels	Commodore	T.Kelly	Solid
8	BJR	WP	WP	BJR	BOC	Commodore	J.Richards	Solid
9	SBR	SBR	SBR	SBR	SP Tools	Falcon	S.van Gisbergen	Solid
10	WP	WP	WP	WP	Bundaberg Rum	Commodore	D.Reynolds	Solid
11	PER	KR	KR	KR	Rock Enery	Commodore	J.Bargwanna	Solid
12	FFF	888	KRE	FFF	TBA	Falcon	D.Fiore	Solid
14	BJR	WP	WP	BJR	Trading Post	Commodore	J.Bright	Solid
15	KR	KR	KR	KR	Jack Daniels	Commodore	R.Kelly	Solid
16	PER	KR	KR	KR	Metaland	Commodore	O.Kelly	Likely
17	DJR	888	DJR	DJR	Jim Beam	Falcon	W.Davison	Likely
18	DJR	888	DJR	DJR	Jim Beam	Falcon	J.Courtney	Solid
19	Tekno	888	DJR	DJR	Tekno	Falcon	J.Webb	Solid
21	Britek	WP	WP	BJR	Fair Dinkum Sheds	Commodore	K.Reindler	Solid
22	WP	HRT	WP	WP	Toll	Commodore	T.D’Alberto	Likely
24	WP	WP	WP	WP	Bundaberg Rum	Commodore	F.Coulthard	Solid
30	LDR	WP	WP	LDR	Gulf Western Oils	Commodore	D.Gaunt	Likely
33	GRM	GRM	WP	GRM	Fujitsu	Commodore	L.Holdsworth	Solid
34	GRM	GRM	WP	GRM	Fujitsu	Commodore	M.Caruso	Solid
39	PMM	888	KRE	PMM	SuperCheap	Commodore	R.Ingall	Solid
47	JRR	SBR	SBR	SBR	Wilson Sercuity	Falcon	T.Slade	Solid
51	PMM	888	KRE	PMM	Castrol EDGE	Commodore	G.Murphy	Solid
55	RNR	FPR	FPR	FPR	Bottle O	Falcon	P.Dumbrell	Solid
88	888	888	KRE	888	Vodafone	Commodore	J.Whincup	Solid
888	888	888	KRE	888	Vodafone	Commodore	C.Lowndes	Solid

And it begins......

TSR · 27 May 2010, 05:58 (Ref:2699011)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Yes its early, but there is a bit out there suggesting what's going on for next year already, no reason not to talk about it..

I would think its a safe bet that there will be more team/REC changes across the season change, pilots swapping teams, retiring, new guys/gals coming in, sponsors changing, coming in, poached, running away...

Change is the only constant...

You suprise me GTR, I was waiting for Pro Racer to start this thread up, but you win.

Axeman444 · 27 May 2010, 10:25 (Ref:2699112)

oh dear...

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Rombles1 · 27 May 2010, 12:52 (Ref:2699219)

I think someone needs some help with the definition of "solid", as well.

Reynolds back at Bundy? I think we all hope so, but solid already? Wow.

Also if Price is at TDR I wouldn't expect Bellmont to stay as major sponsor.

anthony81901 · 27 May 2010, 13:14 (Ref:2699234)

If Tony D'Alberto were to move to HRT likely that TDR would close. The REC could possibly be sold / leased to FPR for the desired 4th car.

Pro Racer · 27 May 2010, 13:30 (Ref:2699249)

i think they would keep it running with a pay driver in there or only lease the licence.

MarcosAmbroseFan · 27 May 2010, 19:17 (Ref:2699470)

I think Tony will keep it as TDR and use it as income.

davester · 28 May 2010, 00:11 (Ref:2699624)

Interesting that some are tipping D'Alberto for the #22 factory seat. Unless HRT are wanting to put all their eggs into the Tander ride, it would be astonishing to see a regular midfield runner move into such a coveted ride.

If WD does move on (unlikely, who has ever gone better after leaving a prime factory seat?), HRT may pay the price for taking a pay driver over further developing David Reynolds. IIRC Reynolds showed genuine speed once the shackles were taken off (ie: when he found out he wasn't going to be retained). If you remember back to 2009, with WD and GT running 2nd and 3rd in the series, Reynolds would have been under instructions to "not risk" the car.

bluesport · 28 May 2010, 02:02 (Ref:2699658)

Quote:

Originally Posted by davester

If WD does move on (unlikely, who has ever gone better after leaving a prime factory seat?)

WD may be the first......it looks as though he is going to a faster car ATM.

EBXR8 · 28 May 2010, 03:53 (Ref:2699692)

Jnr Is under contract at DJR till end of 2011 IIRC, i am sure it was a 2 year deal signed end of last season. WD will stay at HRT i cannot see him jumping ship just yet yes he is having a shocker yer but no different to the year of v8 tellecom at DJR

MarcosAmbroseFan · 28 May 2010, 04:14 (Ref:2699696)

What I think it would look like

#	REC	Car	Engine	Preparer	Major Sponsor	Brand	Driver	Solid?
2	WP	HRT	WP	WP	Toll	Commodore	G.Tander	Solid
3	TDR	WP	WP	TDR	Centur/Purple Pig	Commodore	D.Reynolds	Likely
4	SBR	SBR	SBR	SBR	Irwin Tools	Falcon	A.Davison	Solid
5	FPR	FPR	FPR	FPR	Orrcon Steel	Falcon	M.Winterbottom	Solid
6	FPR	FPR	FPR	FPR	Norton 360	Falcon	J.Moffat	Likely
7	KR	KR	KR	KR	Jack Daniels	Commodore	T.Kelly	Solid
8	BJR	WP	WP	BJR	BOC	Commodore	J.Richards	Solid
9	SBR	SBR	SBR	SBR	SP Tools	Falcon	S.van Gisbergen	Solid
10	WP	WP	WP	WP	Bundaberg Rum	Commodore	T.D’Alberto	Likely
11	PER	KR	KR	KR	Rock Enery	Commodore	J.Bargwanna	Solid
12	FFF	888	KRE	FFF	TBA	Falcon	D.Fiore	Solid
14	BJR	WP	WP	BJR	Trading Post	Commodore	J.Bright	Solid
15	KR	KR	KR	KR	Jack Daniels	Commodore	R.Kelly	Solid
16	PER	KR	KR	KR	Metaland	Commodore	O.Kelly	Likely
17	DJR	888	DJR	DJR	Jim Beam	Falcon	S.Johnson	Solid
18	DJR	888	DJR	DJR	Jim Beam	Falcon	J.Courtney	Solid
19	Tekno	888	DJR	DJR	Tekno	Falcon	J.Webb	Solid
21	Britek	WP	WP	BJR	Fair Dinkum Sheds	Commodore	K.Reindler	Solid
22	WP	HRT	WP	WP	Toll	Commodore	W.Davison	Likely
24	WP	WP	WP	WP	Bundaberg Rum	Commodore	F.Coulthard	Solid
30	LDR	WP	WP	LDR	Gulf Western Oils	Commodore	D.Gaunt	Likely
33	GRM	GRM	WP	GRM	Fujitsu	Commodore	L.Holdsworth	Solid
34	GRM	GRM	WP	GRM	Fujitsu	Commodore	M.Caruso	Solid
39	PMM	888	KRE	PMM	SuperCheap	Commodore	R.Ingall	Solid
47	JRR	SBR	SBR	SBR	Wilson Sercuity	Falcon	T.Slade	Solid
51	PMM	888	KRE	PMM	Castrol EDGE	Commodore	G.Murphy	Solid
55	RNR	FPR	FPR	FPR	Bottle O	Falcon	P.Dumbrell	Solid
88	888	888	KRE	888	Vodafone	Commodore	J.Whincup	Solid
888	888	888	KRE	888	Vodafone	Commodore	C.Lowndes	Solid

sizzle · 28 May 2010, 04:57 (Ref:2699704)

Where is that ignore button!

Pro Racer · 28 May 2010, 05:06 (Ref:2699708)

ask the thousands that ignored me when i was posting lists like that.

JackBlahBlah · 28 May 2010, 06:50 (Ref:2699728)

Team Vodafone
#88 - Vodafone - Jamie Whincup
#888 - Vodafone - Craig Lowndes

Holden Racing Team
#2 - Toll - Garth Tander
#22 - Toll - Tony D'Alberto

Bundaberg Red Racing
#10 - Bundaberg Red - Tim Blanchard
#24 - Bundaberg Red - Fabian Coulthard

Centaur Racing
#3 - Centaur - David Reynolds

IRWIN Racing
#4 - IRWIN - Alex Davison

SP Tools Racing
#9 - SP Tools - Shane Van Gisbergen

Wilson Security Racing
#47 - Wilson Security - Tim Slade

Orrcon Racing
#5 - Orrcon - Mark Winterbottom

Dunlop Super Dealer Racing
#6 - Dunlop Super Dealers - Steven Richards

The Bottle-O Racing Team
#55 - Bottle-O - James Moffat

Jack Daniels Racing
#7 - Jack Daniels - Todd Kelly
#15 - Jack Daniels - Rick Kelly

Rock Racing
#11 - Rock Energy - Jason Bargwanna

Kelly Racing
#16 - ? - Tony Ricciardello

Team BOC
#8 - BOC - Jason Richards

Trading Post Racing
#14 - Trading Post - Jason Bright

Fair Dinkum Sheds Racing
#21 - Fair Dinkum Sheds - Karl Reindler

Triple F Racing
#12 - ? - Dean Fiore

Jim Beam Racing
#17 - Jim Beam - Will Davison
#18 - Jim Beam - James Courtney

Dick Johnson Racing
#19 - DJR - Jonathon Webb

Gulf Western Oil Racing
#30 - Gulf Western Oil - Daniel Gaunt

Fujitsu Racing
#33 - Fujitsu - Lee Holdsworth
#34 - Fujitsu - Michael Caruso

Supercheap Auto Racing
#39 - Supercheap Auto - Russell Ingall

Castrol Edge Racing
#51 - Castrol Edge - Greg Murphy

Pro Racer · 28 May 2010, 07:44 (Ref:2699747)

**Woolley** · 28 May 2010, 11:57 (Ref:2699861)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pro Racer

ask the thousands that ignored me when i was posting lists like that.

Who said that?

I'd be very happy if we could keep this thread for speculation or news on individual moves. Keep the lists for the end of the season. They're impossible to follow on a day to day basis and make finding the actual discussion more difficult.

There are no prizes for getting them right anyway, although I'm willing to consider a week's ban for the one furthest from accurate come the start of next season

(no, I'm not being serious on that point).

mtpanorama · 30 May 2010, 11:52 (Ref:2700806)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woolley

Who said that?

I'd be very happy if we could keep this thread for speculation or news on individual moves. Keep the lists for the end of the season. They're impossible to follow on a day to day basis and make finding the actual discussion more difficult.

There are no prizes for getting them right anyway, although I'm willing to consider a week's ban forANYONE WHO POSTS A LIST

Now thats what I was hoping you were going to say.

**Woolley** · 1 Jun 2010, 13:03 (Ref:2702494)

LOL, there's only so much we can get away with.

peckstar · 7 Jun 2010, 11:34 (Ref:2705997)

maybe a change between fabian and Will is on the cards.

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