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10 Dec 2004, 13:48 (Ref:1176179) | #1 | |
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RB predicts spins and surprises!
Although Rubens seems to be perplexed after experiencing the new aero package, it sounds like good news to me and I hope he is right.
...“Expect a host of surprises [there]. You can count on a lot more spins next year than 2004, for sure.” .... http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto/formulaone/14312/ |
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Yep. Rubens was moaning that the cars may be "difficult to drive".
I'd have thought that was the point of it being the highest level of motorsport! |
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New rules packages are always difficult to drive. However after a while the teams get to grips with it and the cars become (more) driveable again.
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That's what I think, too.
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and usually as fast or faster....in the end.
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10 Dec 2004, 14:24 (Ref:1176206) | #6 | |
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If you want wheel-to-wheel racing you really do have to have cars that don't snap away unpredictably. Look at the first few years of grooved tyres - only in that last two or three years have we seen grip levels and handling behaiviour that allows a good scrap. so - although it seems silly for one of the best drivers in the world to be moaning about the car being hard to drive - it might be better for the viewer if the car is difficult but at least predictable.
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10 Dec 2004, 14:42 (Ref:1176218) | #7 | ||
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I didn't hear of anyone else complaining, so, what is (his) the problem?
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I don't think he said it was unpredictable - just difficult.
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10 Dec 2004, 15:17 (Ref:1176241) | #9 | |
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No. He uses the word nervous. As in jumpy and unpredictable - opposite of composed.
He also says that overtaking will not be enhanced and will be much harder - like I said. And the article reports that he is looking forward to the challenge - but hey guys, don't let that get in the way of your selective reading. Also. Several other drivers have commented on the set-up, including Schumacher, Webber and Ant. None (INCLUDING RUBENS) have said that it is too hard, but all have said that there is a big difference. |
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The feature of the so-called golden years of f1 was when cars were not as reliable, and hence you always had lots of people in the running for wins... so in a way it is good.
Yes it will be difficult for the drivers for the first few races,adjusting to the cars etc. but these are top quality drivers they should be able to adapt to the new regs...Rubens should quit moaning and get on with his job. |
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10 Dec 2004, 15:27 (Ref:1176246) | #11 | ||
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They were saying the same thing back in '97 about the '98 specs.
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I have to agree with Glen here. There is nothing to read into Rubens comments other than what he has said. He is just telling us his impressions about the car - which is good (surely).
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I'm sure they will dial out some of the nervousness as they refine the cars, learn about balancing them, and the drivers get more of a feel for the grip levels. It's very early days in the testing of 2005 cars.
If the drivers have to spend more time actually driving the cars in 2005, it's a good thing surely, as long as the cars are 'safe' and predictable. Last edited by Super Tourer; 10 Dec 2004 at 16:00. |
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Yes, he's not complaining-just stating the facts
I must say i'm very curious to see how the one race tyres go.I wonder how the handling changes during the race? |
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Ant described it as like driving big formula ford,can it be that different?
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if its like a big FF it will be good
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It does sound kinda promissing-but i wonder how he meant that?
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Formula 1 will be "more dangerous" in 2005
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I have talked to a couple of drivers who have tested in 2005 specs. They agree that the car is more difficult to drive. However they are not yet used to it and come 2005, they will have gotten to grips with the new aero. Furthermore, by midseason most of the losses will be regained.
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Typical nonsense web-journalism that.
To say he's saying they will be more dangerous is sensationalist. He says it has much less grip - that doesn't make it more dangerous, it makes the limit lower, and the cars being more nervous is better than them cornering on rails. Problems happen when you have - and expect - a lot of grip, and something goes wrong, leaving you a passenger. Whenever the rules change we always hear some drivers for them and some against. It all settles down and people get on with it. |
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Drivers always say that, Pinguest, because they want to go faster!
But some of them have actually praised the new rules - Anthony Davidson for one. |
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These are intial impressions surely. It's very early days in the winter testing and no one has run a full 2005 spec car yet, only hybred versions.
Drivers are largely sceptical about rule changes as it takes them into the unknown, and they prefer to cope with and operate around known factors. Much the same comments were made about moving to grooved tyres, for example. I would doubt that any drivers have done enough running with sufficent 2005 parts to make a proper judgement as yet. Another couple of months of wind tunnel work will make the cars different again. |
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