LM24 Race Le Mans 2012 entries .

The Badger · 30 Nov 2011, 05:37 (Ref:2993332)

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...g-lm24-effort/
Dyson Racing is aiming to use their 2 automatic entries to the 24 Hours of Le Mans in 2012.
Because the Lola B09/86 is no longer allowed to run at Le Mans, it is likely that Dyson will switch to the Lola B12/60 (evolution of the B10/60),

Looks like we will finally see Dyson do the big event as a team .

Level 5 say their entering only 1 chassis for the event .

Simmi · 30 Nov 2011, 20:03 (Ref:2993632)

Taking a leaf out of Badger's book here is my hopeful LMP1 list:

1 Peugeot Sport Total
2 Peugeot Sport Total
3 Total Peugeot Sport
4 Audi Sport Team Joest
5 Audi Sport Team Joest
6 Audi Sport North America
7 Toyota Motorsport
8 Toyota Motorsport (I'm a believer)
9 HPD-Honda ARX....
10 Strakka Racing
11 Pescarolo Racing
12 Rebellion Racing
13 Rebellion Racing
14 OAK Racing
15 OAK Racing
16 Dyson Mazda
17 Dyson Mazda (Oryx)
18 Muscle Milk Racing

This is a bit of a fantasy list at this stage. It gives us 1 more LMP1 car than this year and it doesn't factor in any possible leftfield entries like a Hope Racing or random surprise stuff (hello Dome).

Pesca is very up in the air but I think he'll pull something together last minute. If Dyson were going to make the trip I'd like to see them come full force. Part of me thinks they'll get enough funding for one car. BUT I also believe that Muscle Milk will join them with a potentially exciting HPD entry.

As for Toyota. I'd love an all-Japanese second car to log some miles with a kind of 'Racing for Japan' type message. MAKE IT HAPPEN.

The Badger · 1 Dec 2011, 05:14 (Ref:2993792)

Im seriously pleased to see that Dyson might be there . I always said he would be this year , with the wedge from Oryx .

Anyway , would be brilliant to see Dyson at Le mans , just a shame he didnt do it with the R&S !!!

MitchZ06 · 1 Dec 2011, 09:05 (Ref:2993848)

Audi won Le Mans this year so don't they get #'s 1, 2, 3?

Victor_RO · 1 Dec 2011, 09:07 (Ref:2993849)

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Originally Posted by MitchZ06

Audi won Le Mans this year so don't they get #'s 1, 2, 3?

No, #1 (and #2 and #3 by extension) for the whole WEC (including Le Mans) goes to the constructors' champion in the ILMC for 2011 (which is Peugeot). So by that assumption Audi should be going back to 7-8-9, as the others can pick their numbers.

Simmi · 1 Dec 2011, 09:11 (Ref:2993852)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

No, #1 (and #2 and #3 by extension) for the whole WEC (including Le Mans) goes to the constructors' champion in the ILMC for 2011 (which is Peugeot). So by that assumption Audi should be going back to 7-8-9.

I wasn't trying too hard to get the numbers right but I believe if you came second in a championship you should take the next set of available numbers - as per the other FIA championships. Will be interesting to see what they run.

Victor_RO · 1 Dec 2011, 09:17 (Ref:2993857)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

I wasn't trying too hard to get the numbers right but I believe if you came second in a championship you should take the next set of available numbers - as per the other FIA championships. Will be interesting to see what they run.

The WEC press release only mentioned the mandatory #1 for the champion constructor, nothing else. I suspect the others will proceed as before in terms of car numbers. We'll see in February or so when the entry lists are released though.

vincegail · 1 Dec 2011, 09:49 (Ref:2993870)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

I wasn't trying too hard to get the numbers right but I believe if you came second in a championship you should take the next set of available numbers - as per the other FIA championships. Will be interesting to see what they run.

Doesn't Reinhold Joest have some kind of #7 fetish? Rightly so, of course, winning back-to-back in the New Man Porsche #7. If they have some kind of choice, I think they'll stick with 7, 8, 9.

Number7 · 1 Dec 2011, 21:33 (Ref:2994132)

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Originally Posted by vincegail

Doesn't Reinhold Joest have some kind of #7 fetish? Rightly so, of course, winning back-to-back in the New Man Porsche #7. If they have some kind of choice, I think they'll stick with 7, 8, 9.

TK's lucky number is 7 (Born 7.7.67),so I guess we will se the grand old trio in that car.

NelisB · 2 Dec 2011, 11:03 (Ref:2994330)

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Originally Posted by Number7

TK's lucky number is 7 (Born 7.7.67),so I guess we will se the grand old trio in that car.

Any wild guesses what numbers Toyota will be running? The same as the GT-One or other symbolic numbers?

NelisB · 2 Dec 2011, 11:05 (Ref:2994333)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmi

Taking a leaf out of Badger's book here is my hopeful LMP1 list:

1 Peugeot Sport Total
2 Peugeot Sport Total
3 Total Peugeot Sport
4 Audi Sport Team Joest
5 Audi Sport Team Joest
6 Audi Sport North America
7 Toyota Motorsport
8 Toyota Motorsport (I'm a believer)
9 HPD-Honda ARX....
10 Strakka Racing
11 Pescarolo Racing
12 Rebellion Racing
13 Rebellion Racing
14 OAK Racing
15 OAK Racing
16 Dyson Mazda
17 Dyson Mazda (Oryx)
18 Muscle Milk Racing

This is a bit of a fantasy list at this stage. It gives us 1 more LMP1 car than this year and it doesn't factor in any possible leftfield entries like a Hope Racing or random surprise stuff (hello Dome).

Pesca is very up in the air but I think he'll pull something together last minute. If Dyson were going to make the trip I'd like to see them come full force. Part of me thinks they'll get enough funding for one car. BUT I also believe that Muscle Milk will join them with a potentially exciting HPD entry.

As for Toyota. I'd love an all-Japanese second car to log some miles with a kind of 'Racing for Japan' type message. MAKE IT HAPPEN.

Although I really like Pescarolo, I really think he should get his act together and get a new LMP1. (I'm assuming he will use the same car they used this year) Because it's just silly that a car of that age can keep up with a car that does follow the rules like the Rebellions.

Simmi · 2 Dec 2011, 17:21 (Ref:2994465)

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Originally Posted by NelisB

Although I really like Pescarolo, I really think he should get his act together and get a new LMP1. (I'm assuming he will use the same car they used this year) Because it's just silly that a car of that age can keep up with a car that does follow the rules like the Rebellions.

Yeah I know exactly what you mean. Would it be better for him to take a year out and come back with something new and fast or is it important to simply be on the grid? Always great to see that name on the entry list I hope something can be sorted.

I suppose the ideal scenario is someone like Nissan coming in with an LMP1 engine and choosing Henri to run it with some additional money for chassis work like Rebellion.

**Aysedasi** · 3 Dec 2011, 09:10 (Ref:2994698)

I think Henri is going to need a big sponsor/partner before he moves on from that old (but still beautiful) car........

The Badger · 3 Dec 2011, 23:12 (Ref:2994863)

He may run one of the currant Oak versions in P1 ?

Level 5 have confirmed an entry .

The rumour of Manthey Racing being drafted in , smells like Porsche are expecting to have to push the hell out that car next year , should add for some sparks .

**Bentley03** · 4 Dec 2011, 10:03 (Ref:2994989)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

He may run one of the currant Oak versions in P1 ?

That's certainly the obvious route and, I guess, most cost effective.

vincegail · 4 Dec 2011, 17:02 (Ref:2995117)

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Originally Posted by vincegail

Doesn't Reinhold Joest have some kind of #7 fetish? Rightly so, of course, winning back-to-back in the New Man Porsche #7. If they have some kind of choice, I think they'll stick with 7, 8, 9.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number7

TK's lucky number is 7 (Born 7.7.67),so I guess we will se the grand old trio in that car.

And let's not forget the decapitated Jags in '96 and '97..

Fogelhund · 20 Dec 2011, 02:45 (Ref:3002100)

Revise your lists, the big teams will be allowed/running four cars... assuming they do this... there may not be any room for at large entries.

GT6 · 20 Dec 2011, 18:56 (Ref:3002368)

If that is correct that can only indicate that the ACO is scared that there may be less quality enterance this year but from what i see the top LMP class would appear to be quite full so why would they want 4 exactly the same cars unless they know something we do not

Victor_RO · 20 Dec 2011, 18:59 (Ref:3002370)

4 cars for the big teams would only make sense if we had room for 65-70 cars. Since the car count stops at 56... I'm not too happy if both of them enter 4 cars, under normal circumstances that means that everyone else would be fighting for 9th or worse.

Deleted · 20 Dec 2011, 20:10 (Ref:3002402)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

under normal circumstances that means that everyone else would be fighting for 9th or worse.

Doesn't really make that much more difference since 7th place has been the highest possible place for petrol cars for a few years now.

But 4 entries would be total madness for the sole reason Victor just mentioned, ie total bullsh*t. Only blind diehard fans of Audi and Peugeot would support this policy

Simmi · 20 Dec 2011, 20:14 (Ref:3002407)

Where does it actually say teams will enter four cars apart from the Audi rumour?

Fogelhund · 20 Dec 2011, 20:37 (Ref:3002418)

It was discussed in the Speed TV chat last night.

JAG · 20 Dec 2011, 20:57 (Ref:3002425)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmi

Where does it actually say teams will enter four cars apart from the Audi rumour?

It's was mentioned Pescarolo could run a Peugeot, the more teams get their hands on factory developed chassis/engines, the better.

Deleted · 20 Dec 2011, 21:05 (Ref:3002431)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

Doesn't really make that much more difference since 7th place has been the highest possible place for petrol cars for a few years now.

Sorry I meant 8th. Forgot the Oreca pug, and Pesca before that

Wouldn't it be nice to have a top 10 filled with just Audis and Peugeots (plus maybe lone Toyota somewhere before Nakajima crashes out)... no thanks

911targa · 21 Dec 2011, 03:04 (Ref:3002518)

My GTE wishlist

PRO

AF 458
AF 458
Luxury 458
JMW 458
Hankook 458
AMR V8
AMR V8
BMW M3
BMW M3
Vette C6
Vette C6
Proton 997
Lizard 997
Manthey 997
ProSpeed 997
Lotus Europa
Spyker C8

AM
Larbre C6
Larbre C6
Krohn 458
Luxury 458
AF 458
IMSA 997
Lizard 997
Manthey 997
Proton 997
Ford GT

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