Channel 7's Program Structure/Issue with new Channel 7 contract (merged)

Chatters · 14 Aug 2006, 05:59 (Ref:1681769)

Like we all know by now, 7 has the V8's for six years. Seeing as they also have AFL and I presume so Wallabies matches (unless 10 got them along with Super 14s), the V8's and AFL are going to have to learn to share Sundays between them.

Seven has also promised more live coverage, including Qualifying and the Saturday races, as well as 25 (?) half hour and 4 one hour shows dedicated to the sport on non-racing weekends.

So how would you structure all this together? I think TC also said that with the clashes with the AFL we might be in for a return to night racing, so keep that in mind.

Here's my take on things:

Saturday

RACE WEEKEND

13:00-16:00 Qualifying/Shootout/Race (Race telecast live)

Sunday

14:00-17:00 Race 2 & 3 (Race 3 telecast live)

NON RACING WEEKEND

Sunday

half hour/hour dedicated show- Same time as RPM

The Hrt Kid · 14 Aug 2006, 06:05 (Ref:1681773)

saturday there looks alright, sunday you will have a race live probably around the 11.30 mark. 1pm is when the footy match starts. 3.30 - 4 you will get race 3 and after that you will get a twilight footy match. i would presume the rpm like show will be around lunch time (somewhere before 1) on non race weekends and might not even be on race weekends. Or you could have a show on saturday arvos on non racing weekends and no show on sundays.

RotorFan · 14 Aug 2006, 06:51 (Ref:1681791)

Speaking of which, it was very misleading of Diffey to tell us halfway through Race 3 yesterday the broadcast was live. That suggests the whole coverage was, when it was only coincidence that coverage caught up with the delayed race.

retro · 14 Aug 2006, 07:02 (Ref:1681799)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RotorFan

Speaking of which, it was very misleading of Diffey to tell us halfway through Race 3 yesterday the broadcast was live. That suggests the whole coverage was, when it was only coincidence that coverage caught up with the delayed race.

.......and it only caught up because of the prang...

....us BigPonders were getting some good incar stuff though..

Chatters · 14 Aug 2006, 07:15 (Ref:1681804)

Let's hope the people at 7 aren't as misleading...

St00ge · 14 Aug 2006, 08:33 (Ref:1681865)

Does it really matter that much if it is live or a hour or so behind?? unless you watch the race on TV and lookup bigpond at same time (nothing will make me goto bigpond for broadband) it doesn't make any real difference to me. Maybe I am just accustom to being stuck two hours behind in Perth

Pro Racer · 14 Aug 2006, 08:35 (Ref:1681867)

i think that every other weekend but a race weekend the afl will be live but on a race weekend the game will be delayed. and on a race weekend the show on the v8's will go for a half hour and on a non race weekend the show will go for an hour.

RACE WEEKEND

Saturday

12:30 - 13:00 v8 show
13:00 - 16:00 Qualifying/Shootout/Race (Race telecast live).

Sunday

14:00 - 17:00 Race 2 & 3 (Race 3 telecast live)

NON RACING WEEKEND

Saturday

12:30 - 13:30 v8 show

Sunday

13:00 - 16:00 live afl game

retro · 14 Aug 2006, 08:35 (Ref:1681870)

Quote:

Originally Posted by St00ge

Does it really matter that much if it is live or a hour or so behind?? unless you watch the race on TV and lookup bigpond at same time (nothing will make me goto bigpond for broadband) it doesn't make any real difference to me. Maybe I am just accustom to being stuck two hours behind in Perth

I don't like the commentors saying *this is live from Oran Park* when it isn't....that's straight out misleading.

Chatters · 14 Aug 2006, 08:41 (Ref:1681875)

Just to clarify pwr fan... The dedicated show will consist of 25 half hour shows and 4 hour long shows... And they will only be on non-racing weekends.

ausracefan · 14 Aug 2006, 09:06 (Ref:1681901)

I got to agree with HRT kid on this one, i think we will see an earlier race, game of footy, then back to the V8s. Maybe the last v8 race could get pushed back to after the news, but i dont see the v8s taking over an entire Sunday afternoon because the AFL will be seven's bread winner, and i dont see them putting the v8s in front of that.

peckstar · 14 Aug 2006, 09:12 (Ref:1681909)

they only clash for baout 5 rounds, so the other 8 or nine should be fine

stmookeyj033 · 14 Aug 2006, 09:32 (Ref:1681931)

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwr fan

i think that every other weekend but a race weekend the afl will be live but on a race weekend the game will be delayed.

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. They would not have paid $780 million to the AFL for a DELAYED telecast. Plus we cannot assume that each meeting will be a 3 race format. Besides, there is only 1 race (Bathurst) that in reality would outrate the AFL nationally.

What I think will happen is this......

AFL/RACE WEEKEND

SAT 12-2
-FFord [1 hr program]
-Tubby Taylor Trophy [1 hr program]
-Whatever else [1 hr program in lieu of previous 2 if they are not running]

SAT 2-5
-Qualifying/Shootout (if we MUST have a shootout)
-Race 1 [LIVE]

SUN 1-4
-AFL [LIVE]

SUN 4-6
-Race 2 [LIVE]

Alternatively, if it's a 3 race format
SUN 11-1
-Race 2 [LIVE]

SUN 1-4
-AFL [LIVE]

SUN 4-6
-Race 3 [LIVE]

RACE WEEKEND ONLY (There's 1 weekend where there's no Sunday Football, a split round in Jun/July)

SAT 2-5
-Qualifying/Shootout (if we MUST have a shootout)
-Race 1 [LIVE]

SUN 1-5
-Race 2 [LIVE]
-Race 3 if there's a race 3 [LIVE]

Alternatively, on that weekend you could have a 1 race format.

SANDOWN

SAT 2-5
-Qualifying/Shootout

SUN 12-5
-Race

BATHURST

FRI 1-4
-Qualifying

SAT 12-5
-Shootout
-Minor Categories
-Horse Racing (If the weekend falls on Caulfield Gunieas day, they will show a few races)

SUN 8-6
-Race

INDY (It looks as though 7 may take on Champ Car for 2007, but I wouldn't bet on it)

SAT 12-5-Champ Car Qualifying [LIVE]
-Race 1 [LIVE]
-Horse Racing (When there's a lull in precedings, given Indy will either fall on Caulfield Cup or Cox Plate day. This may affect when races can start)

SUN 10-5
-Race 2 [LIVE]
-Champ Car Race [LIVE]
-Race 3 [LIVE]

I haven't taken into account the fact that horse racing will be on during the Sydney Autumn carnival (Easter time) and in the Melbourne Spring Carnival (October/November) or the fact that we may get a home Davis Cup tie (rounds usually Feb, April/May, Sept and Late Nov/Early Dec).

mabs_nsx · 14 Aug 2006, 09:36 (Ref:1681935)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chatters

Seeing as they also have AFL and I presume so Wallabies matches (unless 10 got them along with Super 14s)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_Ten#Sport
Future
AFL Premiership Season- Joint with Seven Network (2007-2011)
Rugby World Cup (2007)
2007 Super 14 (2007)

Looks like even less Motor Racing on 10 next year. There coverage has gotten worse and there has been less every year. I have got alot of examples but I will not post them unless someone here wants me too. Don't wory, I will not start posting 100 different thread complaining about how bad 10 are.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chatters

half hour/hour dedicated show- Same time as RPM

NOOOOO! They better not put it on when RPM is on! I can't choose between the 2 shows. If it is I will tape one and watch the other.

mabs_nsx · 14 Aug 2006, 09:42 (Ref:1681942)

Bigpond is crap. Its just in car cammeras for the whole race. Qualifying is good. I can't use it anymore because my computer is now as slow as a snail. No its slower than a snail!

Quote:

Originally Posted by St00ge

Does it really matter that much if it is live or a hour or so behind?? unless you watch the race on TV and lookup bigpond at same time (nothing will make me goto bigpond for broadband) it doesn't make any real difference to me. Maybe I am just accustom to being stuck two hours behind in Perth

I think it is the fact that they are always lying that anoys people more than it being delayed.

Chatters · 14 Aug 2006, 10:26 (Ref:1681980)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mabs_nsx

NOOOOO! They better not put it on when RPM is on! I can't choose between the 2 shows. If it is I will tape one and watch the other.

That would be there plan- Draw viewers over from 10. Personally I'd watch RPM.

racer69 · 14 Aug 2006, 10:37 (Ref:1681990)

Will all this extra airtime promised next year feature only V8Supercars?

Probably, but half of their telecasts now are struggling to fill out the shows (especially the likes of pre-race at Adelaide, plus Indy and so on), what will they do?

One big advantage will be that the V8 telecasts will mostly (except the rounds that may be finished by 3) run to 6pm, giving time for some post race debriefs, especially at the likes of Bathurst, where with Channel 10 it has been very rushed and spoiled at the end of the raceday.

mabs_nsx · 14 Aug 2006, 12:15 (Ref:1682112)

Saturdays (After V8 Supercar Weekends)
??

?pm - 6:00pm V8 Supercar Support Series (1 week delayed)

Saturdays (V8 Supercar Weekends)
4:30pm - 6:00pm V8 Supercar Race 1

Sundays (AFL Weekends)
10:00pm - 11:30pm Sportsworld
11:30pm - 12:00pm V8 Supercar show
12:00pm - 3:00pm AFL
3:00pm - 6:00pm AFL

Sundays (V8 Supercar 2 Race and AFL Weekends)
10:30pm - 12:00pm Sportsworld
12:00pm - 3:00pm V8 Supercar Race 2
3:00pm - 6:00pm AFL

Sundays (V8 Supercar 3 Race and AFL Weekends)
10:30pm - 12:00pm Sportsworld
12:00pm - 3:00pm V8 Supercar
3:00pm - 6:00pm AFL
6:30pm - 9:30pm AFL
or
7:30pm - 10:30pm AFL
or
8:30pm - 11:30pm AFL
or
Sundays (V8 Supercar 3 Race and AFL Weekends)
10:30pm - 12:00pm Sportsworld
12:00pm - 3:00pm AFL
3:00pm - 6:00pm V8 Supercar
6:30pm - 9:30pm AFL
or
7:30pm - 10:30pm AFL
or
8:30pm - 11:30pm AFL
or
Sundays (V8 Supercar 3 Race and AFL Weekends)
10:30pm - 12:00pm Sportsworld
12:00pm - 1:30pm AFL
1:30pm - 4:30pm AFL
4:30pm - 6:00pm V8 Supercar
6:30pm - 9:30pm V8 Supercar
or
7:30pm - 10:30pm AFL
or
8:30pm - 11:30pm AFL

peckstar · 14 Aug 2006, 12:20 (Ref:1682119)

currently this year ch 9 shows football from 1pm to 6pm (2 games)

mabs_nsx · 14 Aug 2006, 12:33 (Ref:1682137)

Saturdays (After V8 Supercar Weekends)
2:30pm - 3:00pm Aussie Racing Cars (1 - 3 weeks delayed)
3:00pm - 3:30pm Australian Performance Cars (1 - 3 weeks delayed)
3:30pm - 4:00pm Lotus Trophy (1 - 3 weeks delayed)
4:00pm - 4:30pm Carrera Cup (1 - 3 weeks delayed)
4:30pm - 5:00pm V8 Utes (1 - 3 weeks delayed)
5:00pm - 6:00pm V8 Supercar Development Series (1 week delayed)

Chatters · 14 Aug 2006, 13:04 (Ref:1682169)

I tell you what mabs you've certainly got everything figured out... Channel 7 should hire you.

YES Post 500!

mabs_nsx · 14 Aug 2006, 13:18 (Ref:1682177)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chatters

I tell you what mabs you've certainly got everything figured out... Channel 7 should hire you.

YES Post 500!

Maybe they should.

racer69 · 14 Aug 2006, 13:20 (Ref:1682180)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mabs_nsx

Saturdays (After V8 Supercar Weekends)
??

?pm - 6:00pm V8 Supercar Support Series (1 week delayed)

Saturdays (V8 Supercar Weekends)
4:30pm - 6:00pm V8 Supercar Race 1

Assuming the split between 7/10 is the same as with 9/10, Seven will not be showing AFL on a Saturday, meaning there will be alot more than just Race 1 on Saturday afternoon shown.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mabs_nsx

Saturdays (After V8 Supercar Weekends)
2:30pm - 3:00pm Aussie Racing Cars (1 - 3 weeks delayed)
3:00pm - 3:30pm Australian Performance Cars (1 - 3 weeks delayed)
3:30pm - 4:00pm Lotus Trophy (1 - 3 weeks delayed)
4:00pm - 4:30pm Carrera Cup (1 - 3 weeks delayed)
4:30pm - 5:00pm V8 Utes (1 - 3 weeks delayed)
5:00pm - 6:00pm V8 Supercar Development Series (1 week delayed)

I was encouraged to see it was Wayne Cattach/TEGA were the ones to announce that Formula Ford were going to be shown on Channel 7 next year, does this mean that the support categories will get a better deal at 7 (i'm not holding my breath, but same day coverage somewhere!) than they currently get at TEN?

A few things from that though mabs_nsx,

Lotus Trophy is dead, Australian Performance Cars are not on the bill next year at VESA events, and i hardly think VESA will let their #2 series bring up the rear of the support race coverage...........plus i find it hard to believe Channel 7 will be interested in granting 3 and a half hours to support categories (unless they have found alot more money to pay for next years coverage than they did this year)

mabs_nsx · 14 Aug 2006, 13:21 (Ref:1682183)

Saturdays (V8 Supercar Weekends)
11:00pm - 1:00pm Qualifying & Top 10 Shootout

mabs_nsx · 14 Aug 2006, 13:26 (Ref:1682188)

Quote:

Originally Posted by racer69

I was encouraged to see it was Wayne Cattach/TEGA were the ones to announce that Formula Ford were going to be shown on Channel 7 next year

When was this announced?

mabs_nsx · 14 Aug 2006, 13:29 (Ref:1682194)

Saturdays (After V8 Supercar Weekends)
3:00pm - 3:30pm Formula Ford
3:30pm - 4:00pm Aussie Racing Cars (1 - 3 weeks delayed)
4:00pm - 4:30pm Carrera Cup (1 - 3 weeks delayed)
4:30pm - 5:00pm V8 Utes (1 - 3 weeks delayed)
5:00pm - 6:00pm V8 Supercar Development Series (1 week delayed)

These lists must be getting anoying.

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