Silverstone Historic Festival June 4th.-6th.

[Riley Imp]

Have I missed something, or am I confused ? C&SC for March 2004 page 8 has a feature on the return of the Historic Festival. It seems to indicate a return to the Coys type of event, club displays, autojumble village etc. Historic racing includes Thoroughbred GP Cars, Group 4 Prototypes and Group C sports racers. No mention of Vintage or pre-war cars. Is it intended to have team races with pre-war LeMans sports cars, have any further details been published yet ? It is in the VSCC Calendar as a two day event, presumably Friday is for practice.
Chris.

[Ted Walker]

Mr Imp your not alone.lets hope its true???????

[David McKinney]

I presume it's the 2004 version of last year's two-day HSCC/VSCC meeting.
As for it being a return of the Festival, time will tell

[El_Gibleto]

I think they were refering to the BRDC meeting on July 31/August 1st.

[Adam43]

This sounds too good to be true. Being the weekend before Le Mans is not ideal, but...

It sounds like the usual selection of good races too! Apart from the lack of a coupe of pre-war races.

[Riley Imp]

I believe the dates are correct. There will be pre-war classes, although I am not sure of details. It would appear to reflect an ambition of the BRDC to put on a real show. The suggestion is that released from the management responsibility for the circuits sold to Jonathan Palmer, the Silverstone team have the capacity to devote to the event. Await further details I guess. Looks like becoming an extremely crowded calendar of Historic events.
Chris.

[El_Gibleto]

Sadly, Silverstone is still under the mismagagement of Octagon/Interpublic or whatever the name is today.

The BRDC still own the freehold of the property and organise some events.

[Ted Walker]

Hopefully the man behind it is Murray Smith long time historic racer and a good guy to make things happen.

[Riley Imp]

Murray Smith was mentioned in the feature. It is to be hoped that his involvement will bring the improvements needed. A good guy everyone says.
Chris.

[Andrew Kitson]

We need to get the BRDCs James Beckett to fill us in, a regular poster here last october/november around 'Walter Hayes trophy' time.

[Ted Walker]

If anyones interested,I am meeting Murray Smith inParis on Thursday so will have the latest on the "festival" to report when I return on Saturday........watch this space.

[john ruston]

TED ,REMEMBER THE BAR 1.30P.M. FRIDAY

[Ted Walker]

John.How could I forget a FREE drink.Is the book being launched?? Have heard nothing from "Harry Potter".

[Ted Walker]

The "news" is as follows.2004 will be a sort of "halfway house" event,due to lack of time etc.But there should be a good turnout of car clubs.A good variety of racing is being promised.The plan is to bring a PROPER Historic Festival back to Silverstone as before.

[David McKinney]

Presumably your last comment means after 2004?

[Ted Walker]

Sorry David Yes I think we can look forward to a proper full blooded,all singing and dancing event in 2005.

[simon drabble]

which will be good news! If its the BRDC meeting in June then its on the Int rather than the GP circuit which is a shame

[BugEyed]

Looks like there is still a degree of uncertainty over the content of this meeting. Let's hope that the details of the meeting are decided and published soon, and that it is the basis of future VSCC events and not "modern" festivals promoted under the auspices of another club.

Duncan :confused:

[simon drabble]

June is a combined HSCC/VSCC/BRDC meeting on the Int circuit but the BRDC festival was going to be 31 Jul/1 Aug but it looks like its been cut back to just 31 July

[BugEyed]

Simon

The Silverstone Calendar gives the following details:

June
July
August

Personally, I'm glad to see that the VSCC is sticking to it's own terrority - races mainly for pre-War Cars with a couple of invitation races for early post-War Cars. Let's leave it to Coys (and their successors including Lord March) to organise the post-War festivals.

Duncan

[dereklola]

Ted

Next time you see Murray give him my regards - we did some IMSA business together a few years ago in Canada. In fact I'm still historic racing a Lola Atlantic I bought from him.

I notice you trade as Ferret. Thought you might be interested in a sports racer by that name I was slightly involved in 40-odd years ago - http://ferret.homestead.com

Derek

PS - "Walker, from Gloucester" - you weren't involved in the Villiers 250cc engined single seater calld a Walker were you? I drove one of those once. Pity. Put me off single seaters for decades!

[BugEyed]

And the latest update of the programme is as follows:

From the VSCC Website

Races The meeting will consist of races for the following categories of cars:

Friday 4th June ( Testing available 09.00 to 12.00: £50 per 25 minute session. Practice commences 12.30. First race 14.00.)
1 Millers Oils/AMOC Historic Formula Junior.
2 HSCC 70s Road Sports Championship for the Wesprey Castings Trophy (see note 21).
3 HSCC Historic Road Sports (see note 21).
4 VSCC The Hawthorn Memorial and Spanish Trophies (in two classes) for Front Engined F1, F2
and Tasman pre 1961 historic racing cars and pre 1952 Racing Cars.
5 HSCC Classic Formula Three.
Saturday 5th June
7 HSCC Classic Racing Cars for The Retro Track and Air Trophy.
8 VSCC The Bill Phillips Trophy for road-trim pre-war Sports Cars
9 HSCC Millers Oils Classic Sports Car (See note 20).
10 Group 4 Racing Sports Prototype and GT Cars.
11 Grand Prix Masters for Formula One cars built between 01/01/1966 and 31/12/1978.
12 VSCC Pre-war Team Car Race for standard and modified sports cars.
14 HSCC/HRSR Historic Racing Saloons enduro (see note 22).
Sunday 6th June
15 VSCC The Boulogne Trophy (for first Vintage Car) for pre- 01/01/1934 Racing Cars.
16 HSCC Derek Bell Trophy.
17 BRDC 50s Historic Sports Cars.
18 Grand Prix Masters for Formula One cars built between 01/01/1966 and 31/12/1978.
19 Group 4 Racing Sports Prototype and GT Cars.
20 HGPCA Drum Brake Sports Cars.
21 HSCC Legends Racing Historic Formula Ford.
The order of racing will not necessarily be as above.

So, only four races for VSCC eligible cars.

Duncan

[simon drabble]

personnally I think its a great meeting - bad news is that I have to rejoin HSCC to do the HRSR saloon car race! but Sunday willl be the best day with some seriously good racinf and all on the International circuit - cant wait
well done HSCC/BRDC and VSCC

[Alan Crook]

This meeting is now only a 2 day meeting on 5th & 6th June, reason being lack of officials and medical staff.

[simon drabble]

so how does that effect the timings? it should effect me too much as I was only racing Sat and Sunday. Will they cut the HRSR race from 45 mins to squeeze another race in then or have some been lopped off the card?