Peter Sauber wants his team back

TheMong · 1 Aug 2009, 17:13 (Ref:2513283)

hope he can manage to obtain it back and bmw need to sign Concorde agreement by Wednesday to be able to pass it onto a potential buyer

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77496

Mr Pink · 1 Aug 2009, 17:18 (Ref:2513287)

That would be great! I wish Peter Sauber all the best with this.

JeremySmith · 1 Aug 2009, 17:18 (Ref:2513288)

This subject is being discussed here..

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...117300&page=11

Marbot · 1 Aug 2009, 17:28 (Ref:2513295)

Maybe worthy of its own thread since further developments are likely in the very near future which probably wouldn't make sense under the original thread title.

JeremySmith · 1 Aug 2009, 17:29 (Ref:2513298)

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Originally Posted by Marbot

Maybe worthy of its own thread since further developments are likely in the very near future which probably wouldn't make sense under the original thread title.

I have left open as you can see...

Marbot · 1 Aug 2009, 17:30 (Ref:2513299)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

I have left open as you can see...

Thankyou.

TheMong · 1 Aug 2009, 17:35 (Ref:2513303)

thx jeremy i did think before posting it..

Sodemo · 1 Aug 2009, 17:42 (Ref:2513311)

Lets hope they get the same "20 offers" Nick Fry said they recieved for Honda...

Marbot · 1 Aug 2009, 17:49 (Ref:2513315)

Maybe there could be some sort of 'tie-up' with one of the teams that didn't make it into the championship at the first attempt ?

But one would hope that BMW would finance the team just as Honda financed Brawn GP.

JeremySmith · 1 Aug 2009, 18:34 (Ref:2513347)

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Originally Posted by Marbot

Maybe there could be some sort of 'tie-up' with one of the teams that didn't make it into the championship at the first attempt ?

But one would hope that BMW would finance the team just as Honda financed Brawn GP.

I agree I was thinking along those lines myself this morning, it could make a lot of sense...

TheMong · 1 Aug 2009, 19:59 (Ref:2513417)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

I agree I was thinking along those lines myself this morning, it could make a lot of sense...

to be honest there is no reason this cant happen and between them should be able to make a good team and money...

brick8300 · 1 Aug 2009, 20:14 (Ref:2513424)

Maybe MR D (Prodrive)Richards will make another trip to the desert to firm up money so he can bid for the BMW team!!!!!!!!!

F1Pete · 1 Aug 2009, 23:28 (Ref:2513573)

Wouldn't it be hilarious if the ex-BMW team was a championship contender next year like what has happened to Honda?

Marbot · 1 Aug 2009, 23:46 (Ref:2513597)

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Originally Posted by F1Pete

Wouldn't it be hilarious if the ex-BMW team was a championship contender next year like what has happened to Honda?

It's possible that it could happen on a regular basis until only Ferrari are left as a manufacturer.

Wrex · 2 Aug 2009, 02:14 (Ref:2513657)

Just a small note on the thread title...

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"I will do everything humanly possible," Sauber was quoted on Bild's website as saying. "I can't do wonders and I certainly do not want to be team boss on the pitwall again.

It doesn't actually say anywhere he wants the team back, he really just wants to help save jobs.

I hope he succeeds though

Oldtony · 2 Aug 2009, 05:43 (Ref:2513682)

He also said that it was a very dificult task, but that he had tougher jobs in the past.
A lot depends on whether BMW take the same approach to changing redundancy obligations to a capital injection in the new team that Honda took. If they do it could be the seed capital for a management buy out like the Honda/Brawn deal.
One question is does Mario want to do a Ross?
The other is who does the engine supply.
Certainly if the Concorde signature deadline can be overcome they have much more time than Brawn and Fry had with Honda.

Yannick · 2 Aug 2009, 06:22 (Ref:2513688)

Mario Theisen is with BMW in WTCC, too, so even though it looks like the board of directors of BMW pulledf the plug on their F1 effort, they probably wouldn't want to let him go.

So at this point, it is not clear who the management would consist of in case of a management buyout.
But with Cosworth returning, the qestion of engines should be easier to solve for Sauber than it was for the team from Brackley last time around.

As driving experience is essential for a "new team", I can see Sauber keeping Heidfeld for next year, with maybe a wealthy sponsor bringing aboard their man, which in case of Malaysian oil company Petronas surely would be Fairuz Fauzy, who was a one time-points leader in the A1GP series, much to everyone's surprise, on merit. So that would be a nice perspective for the team - if only the buyout had already taken place and all the sponsors had already payed upfront.

Mekola · 2 Aug 2009, 06:24 (Ref:2513690)

Well, you can also consider Piquet Sports buying a stake on the team in order to get Nelsinho into one of the avaliable seats...

TheMong · 3 Aug 2009, 18:44 (Ref:2514842)

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Originally Posted by Mekola

Well, you can also consider Piquet Sports buying a stake on the team in order to get Nelsinho into one of the avaliable seats...

this rumour has been doing the rounds now nelson jnr is dumped...but peter suaber looks like hes struggling and seems defeated in this article

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...02081826.shtml

MGDavid · 3 Aug 2009, 19:36 (Ref:2514870)

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Originally Posted by TheMong

this rumour has been doing the rounds now nelson jnr is dumped...but peter suaber looks like hes struggling and seems defeated in this article

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...02081826.shtml

I don't read it like that at all - it's the same interview just translated slightly differently...

strider · 3 Aug 2009, 19:46 (Ref:2514880)

I don't think all is lost yet. See what Joe Saward has to say on the subject. The thought of Ferrari engines is interesting, although somehow it doesn't fit with Peter Sauber.

Still, he doesn't want to be a team principal any more and Piquet's own GP2 team has turned itself into a competitive force again, after a lapse following Nelson's departure, so who knows?

courageous · 5 Aug 2009, 13:01 (Ref:2516111)

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Originally Posted by TheMong

need to sign Concorde agreement by Wednesday

tick, tock, tick, tock....

it seems to have gone a bit quiet

TheMong · 5 Aug 2009, 13:07 (Ref:2516112)

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Originally Posted by courageous

tick, tock, tick, tock....

it seems to have gone a bit quiet

hhmmmm indeed

Marbot · 5 Aug 2009, 13:20 (Ref:2516120)

Deadline is today I believe.Nothing to suggest that the team is saved yet.

Dead-Eye · 5 Aug 2009, 13:47 (Ref:2516139)

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Originally Posted by strider

I don't think all is lost yet. See what Joe Saward has to say on the subject. The thought of Ferrari engines is interesting, although somehow it doesn't fit with Peter Sauber.

Why? He had them before - or did that relationship end in a way that makes further cooperation unlikely?

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