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26 Mar 2002, 15:31 (Ref:244470)
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Worst f1 moment (not a crash or death)?
What is your worst F1 memory, not including deaths/ injuries or crashes?
Mine would be two laps from the end of the 97 Hungarian GP. Murray Walker: Louise has got some news on Damon Hill in the pits. Louise Goodman: Damon's just come on the radio and has said he has a problem, he is loosing hydraulic pressure. Murray: What does that mean Martin? Martin Brundle: I think Damon should be ok actually Murray, he has slowed down a bit but not too much, i think he has a big enough gap to Villenueve. (looks at sector times)...Oh no he's absolutely cruising murray..he's lost 20 seconds on that lap alone. I don't think he is going to make it. I felt sick as i watched Villenuve take to the grass and pass him, nothing will ever replace that feeling. He was robbed of THE greatest gp win ever. |
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26 Mar 2002, 15:35 (Ref:244473)
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My worst F1 memeory would have to be adelaide 1994 when M.Schumacher hit Damon Hill delibrately to win the title. That was when my respect for Schumacher went to a record low.
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26 Mar 2002, 15:40 (Ref:244477)
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The Hungarian Grand Prix in 1997 would have to be top of my list - especially considering it was Villeneuve (not a favourite of mine) again inheriting a win which another driver deserved. But nevertheless, that race was two fingers to anybody who said Damon Hill could do nothing without the best car.
 1999 European Grand Prix would be on my list as well - I couldn't quite believe that Ralf was let down by a puncture when he was on course for a win. |
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26 Mar 2002, 15:42 (Ref:244478)
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Thats the FIA for you,
Just imagine.. Example: Juan touches Michael's sidepod in Malaysia, verdict = Drive Thru Penalty for Montoya Michael slams into Juan Montoya in Malaysia sending him into the barrier at 150mph, verdict = Driver thru penalty for Montoya for getting in schumachers way. It could happen |
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26 Mar 2002, 15:59 (Ref:244490)
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Hungary 1997 was certainly up there...
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26 Mar 2002, 16:02 (Ref:244491)
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Canada 1989 when Derek Warwick retired from 2nd place behind Senna. Senna retired near the end of the race - Derek would have teken that first victory....
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26 Mar 2002, 16:07 (Ref:244496)
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26 Mar 2002, 16:11 (Ref:244497)
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26 Mar 2002, 16:22 (Ref:244505)
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Worst f1 moment (not a crash or death)?
Hungary 1997 is certainly a good one. I remember thinking that being totally unfair.  Jaguar entering F1 was quite bad for me. The realisation that they weren't going to race at Le Mans ever again. No one's mentioned Mansell's exit from the Australian GP in 1986. In retrospect I think this bad moment has become a good moment. I was disappointed at the time, but Prost deserved the championship most (IMO) and it has become one of the most enduring images of the sport. There were a few moments that were very disappointing robbing drivers of good results, but I think that Damon at Hungary loss was more than disappointing... |
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26 Mar 2002, 16:30 (Ref:244508)
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Yes - Mansell's blow-out. Damn shame.
Another... Ron Dennis threatening Bernoldi's career - jumped-up pillock (Dennis). One more... JPM getting rear-ended at Interlagos. I still don't blame Jos for that, just a big shame is all. And... DC getting stranded on the Monaco grid last year - deprived us all of a classic battle for the win (which I'm sure would have gone Schumi's way in the end). Actually... Any car getting stranded on the grid - I want to see racing! |
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26 Mar 2002, 16:37 (Ref:244511)
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I agree with the Montoya moment. GP racing had just got exciting! It was a shame we didn't get to see how that one panned out.
I thought of another one. The sound of a modern F1 car coming out of a slow corner! That's a pretty bad moment! |
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26 Mar 2002, 16:46 (Ref:244517)
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1986 - Nigel mansell's blow out in Adelaide.
1997 - Jacque Villeneuve being disqualified after winning in japan due to overtaking under a yellow - a cynical attempt by the FIA to tak the title to the last round especially considering TGF, Frentzen and othrs also did the same on the same lap. 1999 - Ferrari cheating with illegal bodywork - and getting caugh - then inexplicably being found innocent and their race results reinstated. Another fix to give Ferrari a chance. 1996 - Jacque Villeneuve hitting engine problems whilst leading his debut GP in Melbourne. |
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26 Mar 2002, 16:48 (Ref:244519)
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How about Mansell pulling out of F1 at the end of 1992 thus depriving us the chance of him taking on Prost when both would have been in Williams Renaults....
On the other hand, Mansell's decision to carry on in 1995 was a bad decision... He should have quit after the end of 1994 with that victory in Adelaide... |
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26 Mar 2002, 16:48 (Ref:244520)
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26 Mar 2002, 16:51 (Ref:244522)
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Hungary 1987 - Mansell loses a wheelnut whilst leading the race... Depressing.
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26 Mar 2002, 17:11 (Ref:244525)
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Worst moment for many, many Argentinians where when Reutemann lost the 1981 Championship in Las Vegas...
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26 Mar 2002, 17:46 (Ref:244544)
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How about getting up in the middle of the night to watch a Grand Prix from Australia, and then discovering that David Coulthard is going to use it as an excuse to say "After you, Claude" to Mika Hakkinen, even after Mika fouled up a pitstop and lost half a mile of track position.
If that still gets me steamed after all this time, you can understand how cross I was on the night! |
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26 Mar 2002, 17:52 (Ref:244547)
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Oz GP, 94.
Shu and Hill, nuff said really.  German Oh yeah and 97 German gets away with it again
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26 Mar 2002, 17:54 (Ref:244551)
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26 Mar 2002, 17:55 (Ref:244552)
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26 Mar 2002, 18:00 (Ref:244554)
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26 Mar 2002, 18:01 (Ref:244555)
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I think mariov slightly misses the point(no offence mate)about 94 & 97.
It wasn't the FIA decion that gets on my naughty bits, it is that Shu drove into somebody in order to win the championship, and that Shu and most(not all)of his fans still say it was an accident. cheatin' German
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26 Mar 2002, 18:01 (Ref:244556)
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26 Mar 2002, 18:03 (Ref:244559)
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In recent memory, it's a moment I neither saw nor heard, but read about: When JPM said to Jacques, after Australia, "You already killed one person this year." At that moment I was very depressed at the combination of pettiness, arrogance, stupidity and viciousness wrapped up in that remark, and at the realization that such people are idolized and hugely compensated to do exciting things.
But what the hell, marketing notwithstanding, in truth we don't really believe that being a great or a good driver requires that one be sensible and charming, pleasing though that may be. So I guess the Schumacher/Damon incident, being an actual driving nastiness, is the lowest point for me. |
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26 Mar 2002, 18:06 (Ref:244560)
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Ivan Capelli not winning French GP 1990. I didn´t watch that race live, but I have a season review video.
Damon Hill in Hungary 1997 Luca Badoer´s retirement in European GP 1999. And of course, Mika Häkkinen´s retirement in Spanish GP last year. |
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