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Old 1 Mar 2002, 20:04 (Ref:225340)   #1
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Autosport Young Driver Award

Opening FRenault test at Snetterton:-

Danny Watts 1st
Steven Kane 25th

Who will be the more embarassed, Steven Kane or the judges?
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Old 1 Mar 2002, 20:41 (Ref:225360)   #2
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Danny Watts 1st (3rd year in category, 4th year of slicks and wings, experienced team)

Steven Kane 25th (1st year in category, 1st year of slicks and wings, brand new team to championship)

I'm not saying the judge's decision is right or wrong, or that either driver is better than the other. All I'm saying is that at this point in time, it's not a particularly fair comparison of the two drivers.
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Old 1 Mar 2002, 21:05 (Ref:225376)   #3
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With a whole season ahead, let's not make any snap judgements!
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Old 1 Mar 2002, 22:23 (Ref:225417)   #4
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It's the first time of wings for alot of drivers that showed way better pace then Mr. Kane. Slicks however...I think pretty much the whole grid are quite familiar with..
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Old 1 Mar 2002, 22:28 (Ref:225421)   #5
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give mackie and kane a chance, there must be somthing wrong ? they will sort it .
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Old 2 Mar 2002, 09:26 (Ref:225707)   #6
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Its also intresting to notice that Steven Kanes team mate Charles Hollings was faster than him overall, and it looked as though Charles Hollings was having lots of problems through out the test. How fast is Steven Kane or Should drivers like Charles Hollings get some credit when they are faster than high profile drivers like Steven Kane. Regardless of the experience of the team it is important that drivers are faster than their team mates so lets watch this closely.
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Old 2 Mar 2002, 10:58 (Ref:225749)   #7
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According to the official test times on Wednesday Charles was 29th fastest overall, as opposed to Steven being 20th! On the second day of testing Charles was slightly faster (1:07.292), with Steven being one just step behind him (1:07.335).
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Old 2 Mar 2002, 22:32 (Ref:226195)   #8
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And being "just a step behind" Hollings is suppose to make him AYDA special? Lets hope he picks up some speed along with the pre-season testing. Unfortunatly he's got alot to prove.
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Old 3 Mar 2002, 10:46 (Ref:226675)   #9
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Re: Autosport Young Driver Award

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Originally posted by Clyde Ankle
Opening FRenault test at Snetterton:-

Danny Watts 1st
Steven Kane 25th

Who will be the more embarassed, Steven Kane or the judges?
that is such a silly remark to make .. , the season hasnt even started yet . Wait til the end of the season and see if Kane has fallen flat on his face. I hope he doesnt, as im sure that Kane and Mackie Motorsport will settle in just fine.
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Old 3 Mar 2002, 19:36 (Ref:227102)   #10
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Re: Re: Autosport Young Driver Award

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that is such a silly remark to make .. .
Not as silly as waiting until the end of the season as SILVERS95 suggests.

My point is that the Judges had six drivers to choose from. I would have thought that the winner of this award would be able to go straight into a category and make waves from the start (a la Ant Davidson). There are new guys in FRenault who are up the front straight off and Kane is not.
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Old 3 Mar 2002, 19:44 (Ref:227107)   #11
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You have to remember that Mackie are new to this formula, only getting hold of two old cars in mid Jan. They have had little time to get on the pace of Manor and Motorworld who have had two full years to sort things and build data which is so valuable these days.
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Old 3 Mar 2002, 19:52 (Ref:227114)   #12
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Steven deserved to win the young driver award. Give the guy a chance, I think its unfair that you should judge him so early on!! be ashamed of yourself.
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Old 3 Mar 2002, 20:01 (Ref:227124)   #13
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Welcome to 10/10ths Pitpopsie, your 1st posting and you'er telling 'em off already! How will we recognise you in the pit lane, you'r not one of those dumb blondes hanging on the arm of some no hoper racer are you!
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Old 3 Mar 2002, 20:10 (Ref:227133)   #14
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Steven deserved to win the young driver award. Give the guy a chance, I think its unfair that you should judge him so early on!! be ashamed of yourself.
i agree with that. Theres more to being quick than just havin talent . The team is new to the series .

So Clyde , why was Kane slow , was it the driver or was it the team ? , if it was the team , then your point about the driver isnt really valid .

surely its too early to be going on about all this.

where's MACKMOT ? , maybe he will have something to say about this thread , and can shine some light on the situation for us.
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Old 3 Mar 2002, 20:28 (Ref:227154)   #15
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Given how tight a grid FRS is, its better to talk about differences in lap time than placing. 25th is a lot closer to the front in FRS than it is in Fords or F3
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Old 3 Mar 2002, 21:40 (Ref:227230)   #16
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Im hanging on the arm of someone but he isnt a no hoper!!! xx and no not a dumb blonde! (I just pretend to be sometimes)I think clyde should give poor old steven a break!!
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Old 3 Mar 2002, 22:06 (Ref:227266)   #17
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Russfeld...32 drivers within one sec in FF round 12 last year...you were saying??
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Old 3 Mar 2002, 22:38 (Ref:227307)   #18
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Was that Knockhill or Brands Indy? At any rate, times are more important than position in rating speed
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Old 4 Mar 2002, 08:38 (Ref:227527)   #19
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be ashamed of yourself.
Sorry I don't do ashamed, I'm only interested in the numbers.

Come to think of it, I don't do sorry either but I get the message, let's see what Wednesday brings at Donington.
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Old 9 Mar 2002, 19:19 (Ref:231805)   #20
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I was wrong kane is off the pace, maybe he is not that good and the juges did get it wrong, bet £50 he bails out on mackie before the end of the year?.
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Old 9 Mar 2002, 19:58 (Ref:231833)   #21
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no way ! This is all talk about nothing . the season hasnt even started yet .
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Old 10 Mar 2002, 09:25 (Ref:232099)   #22
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I think TVR is right KANE is not that good just look at the ffzetec winter series, he was in the so called best team , and he was very average against people he made look weak in the junior championship.
maybe Mackie did have a special car?
He will leave Mackie for sure, as his farther will think his son is unbeatable , "well mr kane he is now with the big boys , and so is Mackie".
AUTOSPORT YOU GOT IT WRONG.
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Old 11 Mar 2002, 09:40 (Ref:232692)   #23
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I think Kane has made the same big (and expensive) mistake as many others this season by jumping on the Renault bandwagon.

He hasn't a hope in hell of winning FR (sorry, I really have nothing against him, and think he deserved the YD award), especially with a new team.

Money would have been better spent in ford.
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