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Old 29 Oct 2007, 21:36 (Ref:2054404)   #1
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Vehicle Lighting

To anyone reading this, PLEASE check you vehicle lights.
Some people are using lights for the first time for months, but are they working?
Saw a car this evening the only rear lights were two number plate lights, one brake light and half a brake light in the back window.
And so many others where lights were not working.
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Old 29 Oct 2007, 21:43 (Ref:2054410)   #2
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One of my workmates is especially bad for this, only 1 rear brake / side light is working, and I told him that about 2 months ago - nothing has been done yet! These are people who shouldn't be allowed a car, in my opinion..
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Old 29 Oct 2007, 22:31 (Ref:2054439)   #3
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I'm not a driver, but it does scare me when people obviously do not care.

and this goes to you cyclists too!
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Old 29 Oct 2007, 22:34 (Ref:2054443)   #4
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I've popped this over to road car as it fits in a bit better there.
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Old 29 Oct 2007, 22:40 (Ref:2054448)   #5
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I've popped this over to road car as it fits in a bit better there.
I saw your indicator!!
Sorry must get out more locked into Marshals & Parc Ferme!
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Old 30 Oct 2007, 06:22 (Ref:2054591)   #6
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I love the people who drive down a well lit main road at night and don't realise they haven't turned their lights on until they turn off into a dark side street. They mustn't look at their dashboard very often.
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Old 30 Oct 2007, 08:02 (Ref:2054616)   #7
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I love the people who drive down a well lit main road at night and don't realise they haven't turned their lights on until they turn off into a dark side street. They mustn't look at their dashboard very often.
I have seen a few of these two...amazing hey.
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Old 30 Oct 2007, 13:53 (Ref:2054934)   #8
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Been caught out by my Previa a couple of times- it's the only car I've had where the gauges are illuminated regardless of whether the lights are on or not! Ok so there's a little green light to tell you the lights are on but I'm used to cars where the dashboard illumination acts as a Lights On indicator.
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Old 30 Oct 2007, 14:05 (Ref:2054948)   #9
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What amazes me is that people don't notice that it's dark outside.

...and that it's not foggy, but thats another matter.
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Old 31 Oct 2007, 07:02 (Ref:2055583)   #10
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What amazes me is that people don't notice that it's dark outside.

...and that it's not foggy, but thats another matter.
Oh don't get me started on people who drive around with fog lights on, rain, hail or shine.
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Old 31 Oct 2007, 17:46 (Ref:2056080)   #11
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Oh don't get me started on people who drive around with fog lights on, rain, hail or shine.
They will tell you that the front ones are driving lights!!
Oh and are there any cars where those lights under the bumper, light up any thing you can actually see?
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Old 1 Nov 2007, 08:07 (Ref:2056580)   #12
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They will tell you that the front ones are driving lights!!
Oh and are there any cars where those lights under the bumper, light up any thing you can actually see?


The "driving/fog" lights on my santafe are quite large and emit as much light as a headlight and can be used to drive on...

This I do when coming home from work at night and driving through the estate as when negotiating the narrow roads my headlights tend to shine in the bedroom windows of the bungalows whereas my driving lights dont...

Just me being sensitive to the residents at after midnight every night
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Old 1 Nov 2007, 08:12 (Ref:2056588)   #13
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Women and BMW drivers usually are the none observant one,s for this one!
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Old 1 Nov 2007, 11:57 (Ref:2056798)   #14
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The "driving/fog" lights on my santafe are quite large and emit as much light as a headlight and can be used to drive on...

This I do when coming home from work at night and driving through the estate as when negotiating the narrow roads my headlights tend to shine in the bedroom windows of the bungalows whereas my driving lights dont...
There is no such thing as driving/fog lights. There are driving lights and there are fog lights.

Fog lights are best mounted low on the car and can be used without headlights, they are wired up so that the tailights come on automatcically when the fog lights are switched on. Fog lights have a very limited range and are aimed downwards to flood the road with light immediately in front of the car.

Driving lights, by law, must be wired so that they only come on with high beam headlights. Driving lights spread light far and wide and are designed for use when travelling at speed outside of a built up area.
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Old 1 Nov 2007, 14:30 (Ref:2056950)   #15
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Fog Lights - From the Highway Code

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You MUST NOT use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously reduced (see Rule 226) as they dazzle other road users and can obscure your brake lights. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves.

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Women and BMW drivers usually are the none observant one,s for this one!
oi!!! i'll have you know it's not a mot requirement to have working reverse lights!!
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Old 2 Nov 2007, 08:00 (Ref:2057474)   #17
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O.K Bella,I,ll give you that
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oi!!! i'll have you know it's not a mot requirement to have working reverse lights!!
That's cos women can't reverse!!




Sorry Bella,
Day off and the brain cell goes AWOL!
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Old 2 Nov 2007, 15:34 (Ref:2057934)   #19
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tell you what, i've learnt how to reverse since the lights stopped working (and the reverse sensors with it)!! makes reversing in the dark very interesting too

in defence of those with dodgy headlights... i didn't sort out one of my front headlights for 6 months over summer because the bulbs cost a bomb! plus if you're a girl, some of the lamp fittings are impossible to deal with. my front headlight is skewed, but i can't find a single person who can get it to fix into the unit. man or woman. if manufacturers can make the units a lot better then it may encourage us to interact with the car more...
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My car has automatic lights, and i drive around with the spotties on constantly, so people don't drive into me (only 300 of the car made)


Benifit of a top of the line model, it tells me if there is a light out with a warning on the dash.
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well, mine does too allegedly, but apparently not if you have to cut the wire leading to the offending lights...
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It's probably illegal, but you could always put your hazard lights on to get some extra illiumination when reversing.
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They will tell you that the front ones are driving lights!!
Oh and are there any cars where those lights under the bumper, light up any thing you can actually see?

They are on a Peugeot 205.

Oh and they do on a Peugeot 205.
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...in defence of those with dodgy headlights... some of the lamp fittings are impossible to deal with. ....i can't find a single person who can get it to fix into the unit. man or woman. if manufacturers can make the units a lot better then it may encourage us to interact with the car more...
OK, I've snipped Bella a bit (sorry)
but I agree very strongly. I've been driving around now for about 3 months on one side light.
(if it was a headlight I'd make more effort)

Why - because in order to replace the nearside bulbs on a diesel SEAT Ibiza there are 2 options
1 - take the battery out to obtain access to the light units
2 - take the bumper off in order to take the light units out through the front

absolutely looney piece of design.

The offside is slightly better spacewise, in that I could just change bulbs, but it did take about an hour to do combined with some knuckle surgery.
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OK, I've snipped Bella a bit (sorry)
but I agree very strongly. I've been driving around now for about 3 months on one side light.
(if it was a headlight I'd make more effort)

Why - because in order to replace the nearside bulbs on a diesel SEAT Ibiza there are 2 options
1 - take the battery out to obtain access to the light units
2 - take the bumper off in order to take the light units out through the front

absolutely looney piece of design.

The offside is slightly better spacewise, in that I could just change bulbs, but it did take about an hour to do combined with some knuckle surgery.



To change bulbs in either headlight on our Mondeo the headlight has to be removed...
Doesnt stop us replacing a blown bulb at the first opportunity....

Its a legal requirement to have all bulbs working and the vehicle would fail an MOT or roadside inspection....

No excuse for not replacing them IMHO
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