Historic Touring Cars

DAVID PATERSON · 15 Feb 2002, 08:44 (Ref:216334)

AVESCO have negotiated with the AHTCA to have a full field of Historic Touring Cars as a support event at 6 rounds of the Brand X Championship series. The Bathurst 1000 in October is likely to be the final round of this series. The field will comprise 17 of Australia's top Historic Touring Cars with the balance of the field made up from local club/state level competitors.

Crash Test · 15 Feb 2002, 10:44 (Ref:216366)

Oooooooohhhh.... Ahhhhhhhhh...

I can't believe this- what has gotten into Avesco?

Group'C' · 15 Feb 2002, 22:15 (Ref:216829)

AVESCO have S--T on everyone else and now its the Group N's turn .
AVESCO reckon they got the raw end of the deal at the INDY CARS, try and be the support category for the V8 Supercars

Morris 1100 · 16 Feb 2002, 04:44 (Ref:216961)

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Originally posted by Group'C'
AVESCO have S--T on everyone else and now its the Group N's turn .
AVESCO reckon they got the raw end of the deal at the INDY CARS, try and be the support category for the V8 Supercars

Amen to that brother!! I have run at touring car supports at Oran Pk, Eastern Creek, Bathurst and Winton and have had races cut from 6 laps to 2 laps, races scrubbed out all together and at Winton the Superbikes went home after 1 race because they were being shat on, the flaggies wanted to sweep the rocks off the track (bought on by V8's cutting corners) and Race Control said "Don't worry, the HQ's will sweep it off!" I did the race with my visor down (Which I never do) and copped rocks in the car and a cracked windscreen!

Buckshot · 17 Feb 2002, 09:56 (Ref:217568)

Well with PROCAR going it alone all AVESCO have for supports now is Formula Ford and an increasingly shrinking field of Formula Holdens. They need to find support races for both The Big boys and the Konicas - expect to see a few other categories getting a phone call sonn as well perhaps ?

Crash Test · 17 Feb 2002, 10:36 (Ref:217588)

Also Sports Sedans, Improved Production, Porsche Cup, the MG-F Trophy will fill some gaps on both programs.

Buckshot · 17 Feb 2002, 10:53 (Ref:217596)

I think the Saloon Cars category is supporting the Konicas again this year too ?

Crash Test · 17 Feb 2002, 11:01 (Ref:217603)

Yeah, i think 5 rounds of the Konicas, and the QLD 500.

Flaggie · 18 Feb 2002, 10:20 (Ref:218355)

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Originally posted by Morris 1100
Amen to that brother!! I have run at touring car supports at Oran Pk, Eastern Creek, Bathurst and Winton and have had races cut from 6 laps to 2 laps, races scrubbed out all together and at Winton the Superbikes went home after 1 race because they were being shat on, the flaggies wanted to sweep the rocks off the track (bought on by V8's cutting corners) and Race Control said "Don't worry, the HQ's will sweep it off!" I did the race with my visor down (Which I never do) and copped rocks in the car and a cracked windscreen!

Ah yes. Know that emotion. You wanna try when you have a permanent hot track, all day. And you pretty much need Race Control's permission to walk within 2 feet of the track. That's a pain in the ar_e! Or last year Calder when we asked to get trackside to pick up debris and got told no cause the cars were coming out... In 20 minutes. Ah well.

DAVID PATERSON · 4 Mar 2002, 12:16 (Ref:227678)

I raced at the SCS round at Eastern Creek last year and we were all told not to drive over the kerbs and spread **** on the track. Before the V8 races the street sweeper would come out and remove the miniscule amunt of debris left by ALL the support events, then after the V8s there was **** everywhere, i thought I was on a rallycross stage.

DMC · 5 Mar 2002, 14:43 (Ref:228528)

This will do nothing for the well being of Group N racing, AVESCO only want cars that they think will appeal to the mainstream fans (Fords and Holdens with the occasional Valiant). The fact that these three manufacturers only make up around half the grids of real Group N races doesn't matter to them. It will be an invite only series with no under 2 litre cars. I don't see the big deal about all these "historic touring car races" at the grand prix and supporting the V8s when all you're seeing is a fraction of the grids at HSRCA and VHRR meetings.

Ray Bell · 6 Mar 2002, 00:37 (Ref:228930)

You're right, they want a pack of Mustangs to slide around... maybe a Galaxie in there as a spoiler for kids to laugh at... and cars with slower lap times than their mob do.

Use 'em up, spit 'em out... that's AVESCO policy.

Err... I thought it was up to the Clerk of the Course how the meeting was run?

Was when I was a flaggie...

DAVID PATERSON · 20 Mar 2002, 07:58 (Ref:239929)

Other than the nonsense with the debris on the circuit, I would have to say I enjoyed running at the SCS round at Eastern Creek last year. We were all together in a huge marquee, with enough room and we got heaps of track time. More than most people needed. When you factor in the price of a programme and pit passes etc. it was pretty good value for money too.

I've already got my entry form for Bathurst!

Morris 1100 · 20 Mar 2002, 10:52 (Ref:239987)

I had a realy good drive at the SCS round at Eastern Ck last year, I was throwing a Falcon wagon around!

StuiE · 20 Mar 2002, 11:28 (Ref:240006)

What did u race at Winton MOrris 1100?

Morris 1100 · 20 Mar 2002, 11:35 (Ref:240010)

I was racing a HQ Holden at the Winton that I was talking about above but I have raced a Commodore there once as well as racing the HQ as a HQ, Club Car (now improved production) and as a Sport Sedan

Amaroo Park · 21 Mar 2002, 08:25 (Ref:240658)

What a HQ with split personality????????????????????

Morris 1100 · 21 Mar 2002, 08:44 (Ref:240668)

I once had an argument with a scruitiner at Winton (yes hard to believe I know) at the 24 hour relay race because I didn't have the HQ air filter on it and I said to him "its a Sport Sedan" and he said "its a HQ" and I said "its a Sport Sedan" and he said "if it was a Sport Sedan it would have a Sport Sedan Log book" and then I showed him the Log book and in the log book it said "Eligible for Sports Sedans Cat 2 Group 2D Subject to requirements" and the Scruit shut up!

StuiE · 21 Mar 2002, 09:51 (Ref:240714)

jus like when a cop is about to give you a defect and then you show him a nice piece of paper that says that your car's mods r fine

luv it

DAVID PATERSON · 19 Jul 2002, 13:29 (Ref:337388)

AVESCO recently announced that they have been polling the crowds at every V8 Supercar championship round to see what they thought of the support events and the Historic Touring Cars came out as a very clear favourite at every round. AVESCO were so impressed, they have already offered the AHTCA a 6 round National series supporting next year's V8 championship and a run at next year's Bathurst 1000.

FatBoy · 20 Jul 2002, 08:23 (Ref:337936)

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Originally posted by Crash Test
Also Sports Sedans, Improved Production, Porsche Cup, the MG-F Trophy will fill some gaps on both programs.

Do you know of any Improved Production supports so far ?
I'd love to hear more, and run at one of these events ?

Cheers,
Paul...

21 Jul 2002, 21:58 (Ref:339166)

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AVESCO recently announced that they have been polling the crowds at every V8 Supercar championship round to see what they thought of the support events and the Historic Touring Cars came out as a very clear favourite at every round. AVESCO were so impressed, they have already offered the AHTCA a 6 round National series supporting next year's V8 championship and a run at next year's Bathurst 1000.

I been going to race meetings continually for the last 18 years and on and off for 20 years before that, and while I heard of these "polls" I can't say I been asked or even seen anyone else take part in one.

I don't think popularity would ever win out over the mighty dollar.

DAVID PATERSON · 30 Jul 2002, 08:32 (Ref:346065)

Every week they announce television ratings, but i've never taken part in the survey and i don't know anyone else who has, does this mean they don't happen?

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