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18 Jun 2005, 14:27 (Ref:1332203)
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Michelin in trouble at Indy
It appears that Michelin are in big problems at Indy, the Michelin teams might not be running during Practise 3.
What happens if Michelin decide to pull their cars, can they run a GP with 6 cars? |
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18 Jun 2005, 14:30 (Ref:1332205)
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That ain't gonna happen!
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That's so frickin uncool man!
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18 Jun 2005, 14:37 (Ref:1332212)
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Michelin are running.
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18 Jun 2005, 14:40 (Ref:1332214)
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Tyres too soft?
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18 Jun 2005, 14:41 (Ref:1332218)
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Montoya goes a second quicker than anyone else.
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18 Jun 2005, 15:00 (Ref:1332234)
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I predict more trouble for Michellin. If the Michellin-drivers have problems during the free practises, the race will a disaster.
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18 Jun 2005, 15:08 (Ref:1332240)
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I'm afraid so, but on the other hand I can't believe they won't have a better tyre to provide the teams with....
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18 Jun 2005, 15:13 (Ref:1332252)
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Michelin are not allowing the majority of their cars to run on the banking, and are advising them to run on the infield.
Frankly, I doubt that we will see any cars withdraw from the race. Formula 1 would install a tyre chicane in the short chute before they allow Michelin to withdraw and compromise a Grand Prix. |
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18 Jun 2005, 15:15 (Ref:1332256)
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Can someone please give me a link to this story? I missed the practice, and don't understand what is the problem.
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18 Jun 2005, 15:17 (Ref:1332260)
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Of all the michelin cars only jpm and dc did a full timed lap. The rest went out and pitted again by the end of their out lap.
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18 Jun 2005, 15:21 (Ref:1332268)
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Has Michelin commented on the situation (link please)?
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18 Jun 2005, 15:22 (Ref:1332270)
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No link as of yet Inigo.
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That's so frickin uncool man!
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18 Jun 2005, 15:23 (Ref:1332271)
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don't think so, it only happened just now...
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18 Jun 2005, 15:42 (Ref:1332308)
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there is some info on the itv site
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=33173 Michelin can't figure out why the tires failed yesterday, and might fly in new tires for the race. |
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18 Jun 2005, 16:07 (Ref:1332331)
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18 Jun 2005, 16:08 (Ref:1332332)
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what's for sure is that they did well now, Kimi 1st, JB 2nd, Alonso 3rd. Hope they can make it through the race.
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18 Jun 2005, 16:12 (Ref:1332335)
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So does this mean the entire field will start with new tyres tommorrow? seems fair...
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18 Jun 2005, 16:58 (Ref:1332350)
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not so fair for bridgestone teams though. It's the first gp this year their product is better, so I don't see why they should just accept a change of all tyres. Maybe it'd be better if they at least qualified later, that is, first all michelin drivers qualify, then all bridgestones.... Or something like that. Not any huge advantage, but I think it's fair they should get SOME advantage in return.
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18 Jun 2005, 17:11 (Ref:1332355)
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Yeah, as much as I disklike Bridgestone's policies in F1, if Michelin have screwed up its not fair they should get off the hook, I say allow the Bridgestones to occupy positions 1-6 then followed by the Michelin runners.
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18 Jun 2005, 17:22 (Ref:1332360)
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IF - and it's still an IF, the Michelin runners decide to change tyres before the race, they'd all be penalised, so we would have the Bridgestone cars 1-6 on the grid.
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18 Jun 2005, 17:22 (Ref:1332361)
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If Michelin wants to use a new compound, all teams will have to give their permission.
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18 Jun 2005, 17:25 (Ref:1332364)
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There's no doubt the Michelins are fast boots... but the concern now is safety and whether it can last the race distance. Coupled to any safety car periods, it may really screw the tyres big time.
I'm quite surprised..but not too overly worried. Michelin is merely playing safe to conduct an investigation. Maybe they know that there are fundamental problems, which hopefully a different batch of tyres would correct. Fair or not for BS, what is most important is safety. Once the safety aspect is satisfied, i think even if allowing BS runners to qualify last may go abit to "correct" the balance..really i don't think it'd make a difference to the grid. |
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18 Jun 2005, 17:36 (Ref:1332367)
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not much of a difference, but maybe the minardis & jordans would gain 0.3-0.5. That of course wouldn't be of any huge importance, especially since the first cars to qualify will be JPM and the two Renaults which are of course way out of their league. BUT the Ferrari cars could qualify a bit better, which would help them if they could even gain one position at the final grid.... Which of course they would lose instantly when the red lights turn off
 But seriously I think it's fair for the Bridgestone teams to get an advantage, since the Michelins will HAVE to be changed, if it's a security issue...
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18 Jun 2005, 17:39 (Ref:1332368)
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At least three racing/F1 sites report that Michelin teams might not race at all unless they're given permission to use the new tyres.
www.planetf1.com www.f1live.com |
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18 Jun 2005, 17:41 (Ref:1332369)
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Michelin teams might not race in the US
At least three racing/F1 sites report that Michelin teams might not race at all unless they're given permission to use the new tyres.
www.planetf1.com www.f1live.com (don't remember the thrid one  )
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