V8s in China - Why?

[VeeEightFan]

So Tony Cochrane is going to taike the V8 Supercars to China. Why? What advantage is that to either the teams or to us Aussie enthusiasts?
Perhaps TC has made a deal with the Chinese Government that will put some dollars in his pocket. How will the V8 teams benefit?
Can someone from the teams give us an idea of any benefits?

[TheMan]

Easy, more frequent flyer points. Simple...... TC thinks of us all. What a man.

[kmchow]

It depends on who initiated the race? Are the Shanghai organizers reimbursing or subsidizing the travel costs? Did V8 Supercars or Chinese officials? China does want to promote Shanghai as a modern/1st class city. Having F1 and V8 Supercars race there is just a great way to show how modern the city is.

[jetsetter]

The only advantage i can see in it is TC making a lot of money after all that is why he does anything.

[vatuloa]

I don't see how it will happen unless the crowd knows and follow the teams and drivers what are they going to be looking at.

[Alan Jones]

TC has stated that the Chinese, like the Puke- a -hoey race, pay for all the added costs associated with taking the series offshore such as freight, accomodation etc etc.

[racer69]

Because Tony Cochrane thinks it's Formula One.....

I still can't wait until he realises he has to choose between a second NZ race or China

[TheMan]

The second NZ race will replace the first Eastern creek race.

[racer69]

not if he wants to race in China

[TheMan]

PI has been takn off the calender to pave way for China. TC still holds the first EC race up his sleave. The EC race in December will become there race and the first EC race will be dropped to pave way for NZ 2.

[racer69]

He will have to choose, FIA rules dictate a domestic championship cannot hold more than 2 rounds outside the home country.

[sevi]

In regards to costs, there is a figure floating around but I am not sure how accurate it is, so I won't quote it.
As for team expenses it is going to be cheaper for them to go to China then if they do a round here. All the travel costs, accomodation is being paid for.

[RaceTime]

Originally posted by TheMan
PI has been takn off the calender to pave way for China. TC still holds the first EC race up his sleave. The EC race in December will become there race and the first EC race will be dropped to pave way for NZ 2.

Unless he gains FIA sanctioning for the series to become an International Series, if Pukekohe and China continue (and that's a big if - when is the rescheduled meeting supposed to take place for document signing???) to also obtain a second NZ race, one of the other two has to go.

It is highly unlikely, given the FIA's previous treatment of an International Touring Car Series, for this sanctioning to be given - especially without Bernie's involvement..

[jetsetter]

Originally posted by racer69
He will have to choose, FIA rules dictate a domestic championship cannot hold more than 2 rounds outside the home country.

V8's not an international series, don't tell TC he thinks it's bigger than F1.

[A9X05]

I also agree that taking the V8s over to China is over the top!Do they sell V8s over there? I think it should just stay aTrans Tasman formula, and just make it elite down this way. But first of all, maybe all energys should be put into improving the tracks , immeniies, food areas, etc, first! They have to look after the paying public , not worrying about going to tim buck too or where ever. Without the public, and the fan base, there is nothing! We are the paying for it in the long run. I think sometimes we get shafted! It is a shame that some of our tracks have to miss out! It seems that Marcus Ambrose has a good chance of being No1 this year and he wont even be able to race in his (home) state! The big boys should be able to race in every state and in N.Z, and be crowned the Trans Tasman V8 champion or something!!
The old K.I.S.S. method is being thrown out of the window! I dont think we need the expansion that bad! It seems a lot of Supporters are disheartened with all the politics and back room brawling that goes on!! It is getting too big !starting from the race teams/cars down to us the public! I dont go anymore, as I cant afford to take my family to the V8s I am of the new followers who are staring to watch other forms of Motorsport like PRO CAR etc ( On TV ) I am losing interest fast
I would rather see the V8s go to the STATES if I had to choose, at least they have V8s over there! They would love it I'd imagine, But at the end of the day keep it down under, keep it a ANZ formula
But I as a memeber of JOE PUBLIC what do I know? I know one thing! I dont go to any V8 races anymore!!

[spook]

In AVESCO's eyes the China round will be like the Indy/GP/Adelaide rounds - a TELEVISION EVENT.

AVESCO do not give a rats if the local circuits/promoters don't get a crowd to make it worthwhile - they already have the sanction fees from the circuit - TV money from the broadcaster - Platinum Sponsors like BigPond & VB.

I personally don't believe it when TC starts bleating that he wants this and that for the fans at the tracks. He is talking about corporate guests in the suites, not the mugs on the mound.

[VeeEightFan]

Hi Guys,
I am encouraged by the comments from everyone who has used this forum. It is interesting to note that so many of you are a wake up to TC and his big mouth. There certainly is no advantage to us or to the teams in going to China. It is all about TC conning the Chinese Government into paying his super high event fee. Millions I believe. It is interesting to note the matter of the FIA sanctikoning of National Championship races outside the domestic arena. TC thinks, as some of you have noted, that he is bigger than F1 and he can change the rules to suit himself.
Isn't it about time that someone gave him a lesson about his exaggerated race crowd figures and all the BS he sprukes on TV about millions of viewers world wide. He gets up my nose now.

[vatuloa]

VeeEightfan
You don't seem happy please don't loose any sleep over it just remember every dog has his day and there are a lot of dogs tried up at the moment and they are starting to bark louder every day

[Onlooker]

Originally posted by VeeEightFan
Hi Guys,
I am encouraged by the comments from everyone who has used this forum. It is interesting to note that so many of you are a wake up to TC and his big mouth. There certainly is no advantage to us or to the teams in going to China. It is all about TC conning the Chinese Government into paying his super high event fee. Millions I believe.

The teams will directly benifit from the fee's charged when the pie is sliced up at the end of the year,well the level one teams andy way

[moffman]

Shouldn't we be going back to Symmons Plains before anywhere else?

[ford boy]

Totally agree with you moffman !!!!!!!!

[Mattracer]

Me too!!!!!!!

[PVDA]

So who would sanction the event in China?

I don't think CAMS can leave these shores and with all this insurance debate going on about AAA what's the coverage in China considering the differences in wages and quality of life between there and here?

[RaceTime]

China has to be an INternational event with an FIA permit - but would go through whatever the Chinese ASN is.

[The Tool Man]

Im with Moffman Bring back Symmons first at least all the states will have a round then.