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Old 18 Mar 2003, 16:05 (Ref:540251)   #1
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Swiss motorsport ban to be lifted?

http://www.autosport.com/newsitem.asp?id=22246&s=5

Autosport are saying that after nearly a 50 year ban politicians in Switzerland are pushing for the country to lift its ban on motorsport.

They are giving a GP slant on this, but could we see other series racing there? Euro F3, Sportscars?

What is the present state of Swiss motorsport and potential tracks
there. I have to admit I know nothing! IIRC there is some motorsport in Switzerland, mainly hillclimbs? Excuse my ignorance.
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Old 18 Mar 2003, 16:10 (Ref:540254)   #2
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I thought all the "Swiss" events were held in either Germany, France or Italy. They did have a massive hillclimb venue and wasn't the Bremgarten circuit in Switzerland?

But nothing happens there now as far as I know.
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Old 18 Mar 2003, 17:16 (Ref:540305)   #3
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The 5-mile Bremgarten circuit was indeed layed out on public roads within Switzerland's borders. There used to be some permanent facilities, but I expect they've been redeveloped in the last half century.
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Motor RACING was banned in Switzerland in 1956,as a result of the fatal accidents involving spectators at Geneva and Le Mans.This law apparently also covers bikes & karts(which had not then been invented!)rallies,hill climbs & slaloms have always been legal.
If they really are going to repeal this obsolete law and revive the Bremengarten circuit with modern safety barriers this would be fantastic.
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Old 18 Mar 2003, 21:21 (Ref:540534)   #5
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Keep this quiet, or else Hermann Tilke might find out and build a flat, featureless track in the middle of the most striking scenery in Europe.
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Being just a smidge cynical, I wonder if this has more to do with the Swiss wanting to bring money into the country?...

I find it ironic that a country that arbitrarily banned motorsport because of a tragedy that happened in france, and has some of the most draconian traffic/speeding laws on the planet (even worse than Northampton police ) should now be actively seeking the reintroduction of motorsport..
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As I recall Autosprt suggests its because the Swiss are not in the EU and have therefore not banned cigarette advertising - I detect the hand of Bernie - which probably means another Tilke circuit
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It could be another street circuit!
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As I recall Autosprt suggests its because the Swiss are not in the EU and have therefore not banned cigarette advertising - I detect the hand of Bernie - which probably means another Tilke circuit


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I thought that the Swiss only banned circuit racing. I remember watching the Swiss F3 championship last year, maybe the year before. All circuit races were held in a selection of neighbouring countries - I remember Dijon (home of the Swiss GP! ) being one. However, there were a large number of Hill Climbs in the season and I am positive that they were held on Switzerland.
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Correct Asp.Hill Climbs sprints,rally stages,slaloms & motocross ARE still held in Swtzerland. No permanent circuits have ever been built,so there was some disscusion a few years ago as to whether the law only applied to closed public roads.Know any Swiss lawyers?
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I'd love to see Switzerland back on the world racing scene, but it better not be that bloody Tilke moron building any potential venue
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Here's some background on the state of Swiss motorsport. Not good news about Bremgarten, I'm afraid.

http://www.grandprix.com/gpe/cir-072.html

A map here shows the state of the track in 2000. I expect there's a lot more built up around here than is shown, though.

http://home.datacomm.ch/srcb/bremgar...reste_2000.jpg

In translation, the red parts are still there, the purple have become footpaths, and the yellow parts have been plowed under.

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