Historic Sportscar Racing GT2 - Round 3 - GVR - (Race 2 results too)

[Fogelhund]

Welcome another running of the Historic Sportscar Racing Series for the GT2 platform. This series is in its seventh season, and has been my favourite GT2 series. The cars are incredibly competitive and we have been lucky enough to have some of the best drivers, and closest competition around.

Many drivers in the past have chosen to drive multiple cars, with multiple nicks. Feel free to do so here, but just clearly mark what your alter-nick?will be so nobody is confused.



Perhaps GT4 will see the historic cars added again, and hopefully with an even greater selection

Past Champions

Season 1 - Soccerboy - Datsun 240Z
Season 2 - Fogelhund - Lotus Europa
Season 3 - Didi - Lotus Elan
Season 4- Fogelhund - Camaro
Season 5 - Didi - Lotus Elan
Season 6 - Fogelhund - Camaro

The Racing prepared Class
Rover Mini 1275 Mark 1
1964 Lotus Elan S2
71' Datsun/Nissan 240Z
Lancia Stratos
Lotus Europa
83' Mazda RX-7 GT-Turbo
86' Toyota MR2 1600G-Limited
71' Nissan Skyline
68' Toyota 2000GT
Lancia Delta HF Integrale Evo
66' Shelby GT350
69 Camaro Z28
67' Corvette Stingray
82' Corvette Stingray
71' Lotus Elan S4

Note The administrative staff reserves the rights to modify options available on the cars should certain marques be too far ahead, or behind the other cars. These modifications, will only happen after the second race, and will be enforced for the balance of the schedule.


All cars in the Racing prepared class come equipped with;
Racing Bodies
Any Tires (except where noted)
Full Suspension Modifications
Full Brakes Modifications
Full Drivetrain Modifications

Introducing the cars


Rover Mini 1275 Mark 1
239 hp, 1543lb...to be raced as is from the dealership

1964 Lotus Elan S2
All engine/power options can be purchased from the dealership
210 hp 1252 lb

1971 Lotus Elan S4
All engine/power options can be purchased from the dealership
210hp 1362lb

71' Datsun/Nissan 240Z
NA Tune Stage 2
Port & Polish
Engine Balance
Displacement
Semi-Race Muffler
263hp 1985lb

Lancia Stratos
Racing Muffler
NA Tune Stage 2
Engine Balance
Port & Polish
Performance Chip
273 hp 1924 lb

Lotus Europa
Engine Balance
Turbo Stage 2
Port & Polish
Semi-Racing Muffler
Performance Chip
237hp 1432lb

83' Mazda RX-7 GT-Turbo
Performance Chip
Engine Balance
Stage 1 turbo
Racing Muffler
Port & Polish
Intercooler Stage 1
2003lb. 257hp

86' Toyota MR2 1600G-Limited
Performance Chip
Port & Polish
Engine Balance
Stage 3 Turbo
Sport Muffler
2063 lb 266hp

71' Nissan Skyline
Racing Muffler
Stage 3 Turbo
2162lb 305hp

68' Toyota 2000GT
Turbo Stage 2
Port & Polish
Engine Balance
Sport Muffler
2250lb 296hp

Lancia Delta HF Integrale Evo
Turbo Stage 2
Racing Muffler
308hp 2447lb

66' Shelby GT350
Performance Chip
Sport Muffler
2388lb. 325hp

69 Camaro Z28
Racing Chip
Stage 3 NA Tune
Racing Muffler
Port & Polish
2888 lb 418hp

67' Corvette Stingray
you must use soft tires
No Engine modifications
2888lb 433hp

82?Corvette Stingray
NA Tune Stage 3
Engine Balance
Port & Polish
351hp 2854lb.


There is no limit to the number of drivers choosing the same car

General Guidelines and Rules

We expect everybody to race cleanly, and within regular OLR guidelines. The series, including any protests or time inquiries is being run under granturismo.com race guidelines. If you are not familiar with these, please read the OLR FAQ at granturismo.com http://forum.granturismo.com/showth...?threadid=46235

Lack of knowledge of rules is not an excuse to break them.


While this is not a dex certified series, you should be prepared to defend your times with a detailed RTI (I'll give you a format), and in extreme cases, we might require some type of save. While I would like to believe that everybody is honest, a select few have proved me wrong. I generally run most of the cars at each track that is run, and have a pretty good idea of what is possible. I would not recommend trying to pull a fast one here, you will be spotted.

There will be random requests for a detailed RTI, or dex save. The placements of these random RTI will be determined before the start of each race.

I am looking for a couple of volunteers who are PAL users, who can check DEX saves, for those who prefer DEX over RTI.

Save your runs I would highly recommend that you always save your fastest runs, so that you can provide details later on.

You must have two wheels on something paved at all times. This includes the curbs, rumbles strips and the two paved sections on the inside of the curbs at Rome Night. For the purpose of this series, if you can see more than two wheels off the track from the above replay view, the time is invalid. ANY touch of any wall, guardrail, building.. regardless of how hard will rule a time invalid.


Scoring
Our point system is based on the system that NASCAR uses

1. 175
2. 170
3. 165
4. 160
5. 155
6. 150
7. 146
8. 142
9. 138
10. 134
11. 130
12. 127
13. 124
14. 121
15. 118
16. 115
17. 112
18. 109
19. 106
20. 103
21. 100
22. 97
23. 94
24. 91
25. 88
26. 85
27. 82
28. 79
29. 76
30. 73 and so on........

Submission format

If you live in North America please use SpeedvisionGT2@netscape.net only for time submissions.

If you live outside of North America... Europe, Australia... please both e-mail and Private Message me your time submissions.

This is to prevent e-mail delay problems experienced in the past particularly from our European friends.

Please submit only using the prescribed format at each event.

At minimum ie.

Fogelhund
Camaro
Midfield

Total Time

Sector 1
Sector 2
Sector 3
Sector 4

Top Speed

Schedule






Race 1 - Clubman SR5 Reverse
Race 2 - Apricot Hill - June 9th, 12 Noon Eastern Standard Time
Race 3 Grand Valley Reverse - June 16th, 12 Noon Eastern Standard Time
Race 4 Red Rock Valley Reverse - June 23rd, 12 Noon Eastern Standard Time





All races are your fastest lap in Time Trial, unlimited runs.

[Fogelhund]

Note: Grand Valley REVERSE

The Big'un track from down under is a long time favourite of many a driver. The long straights do place a premium on power cars, so look to see a few new faces fighting in the attempt to remove the Mini of Pumpkin Head from that top rung on the ladder.

The one to watch this week will be krtlex with the Big Block 67' Corvette, making a big charge from the top of the track, down the hill, and into the final straight. HareTurtle with the 69' Camaro will also be using some American Muscle down the straights. After a disappointing result at Apricot Hill, we expect GTV27 to rebound back with a strong showing in the Shelby GT350. Not to be forgotten, Fogelhund in the another of the Camaro's will be working hard to overcome the 371hp his car is running with.

Good Luck folks, and enjoy LM.

[Fogelhund]

Results from Round 2

Time Driver Car Points Top Speed Top Speed Sector 1 Sector 2 Sector 3 Sector 4
0.62
1st 77.708 Pumpkin Head Mini Cooper S 175 144.60 mph 232.85 km/h 16.683 20.939 17.856 22.23
2nd 77.809 Rennsport Addict Lotus Europa 170 150.49 mph 242.33 km/h 17.062 20.448 17.828 22.471
3rd 77.847 Green Eggs and Ham Toyota Starlet 165 145.25 mph 233.90 km/h 16.994 20.773 17.992 22.088
4th 78.11 Fogelhund 69' Chevrolet Camaro 160 155.12 mph 249.79 km/h 17.267 21.263 17.637 21.943
5th 78.193 krtlex 67' Chevrolet Corvette 155 166.15 mph 267.56 km/h 16.99 21.86 17.384 21.959
6th 78.412 krt917 Shelby GT350 150 155.59 mph 250.54 km/h 17.096 21.592 17.577 22.147
7th 78.421 HareTurtle 69' Chevrolet Camaro 146 158.92 mph 255.91 km/h 17.519 21.51 17.619 21.773
8th 78.496 D Lancia Stratos 142 148.64 mph 239.36 km/h 17.356 20.695 17.558 22.887
9th 78.556 woodruffj_350 Shelby GT350 138 151.98 mph 244.73 km/h 17.218 21.545 17.704 22.089
10th 78.817 Dennis Kaira Lotus Europa 134 148.73 mph 239.50 km/h 16.912 20.936 17.759 23.21
11th 78.833 woodruffj_67' 67' Chevrolet Corvette 130 162.41 mph 261.53 km/h 17.164 22.194 17.594 21.881
12th 78.835 JaFa 71' Lotus Elan S4 127 146.71 mph 233.24 km/h 17.256 20.752 18.659 22.168
13th 79.054 JuanDon Lancia Delta Integrale 124 145.52 mph 234.33 km/h 17.376 21.271 18.028 22.379
14th 79.283 GTV27 Shelby GT350 121 154.54 mph 248.85 km/h 17.335 21.632 17.862 22.454
15th 79.366 Dionysis 69' Chevrolet Camaro 118 157.86 mph 254.21 km/h 17.335 21.957 17.355 22.719
16th 79.481 GTV26 67' Chevrolet Corvette 115 165.73 mph 266.88 km/h 17.239 22.075 17.628 22.539
17th 79.56 sillytron Shelby GT350 112 151.88 mph 244.58 km/h 17.184 21.724 17.597 23.055
18th 79.61 woodruffj_240Z Datsun 240Z 109 144.44 mph 232.59 km/h 17.45 21.421 18.255 22.484
19th 79.722 woodruffj_82 82' Chevrolet Corvette 106 156.48 mph 251.98 km/h 17.419 21.934 17.89 22.479
20th 79.802 GTV28 69' Chevrolet Camaro 103 156.60 mph 252.17 km/h 17.573 21.846 17.555 22.828
21st 79.837 Lee Janotta Lancia Stratos 100 153.19 mph 246.68 km/h 17.097 21.183 17.804 23.753
22nd 80.025 rocket Shelby GT350 97 151.03 mph 243.21 km/h 17.771 21.861 18.059 22.334
23rd 80.878 SlipZreEm 71' Nissan Skyline 94 mph km/h 17.556 21.289 18.946 23.087
24th 91.345 psonefreak Lancia Delta Integrale 91 140.23 mph 225.81 km/h 19.941 24.793 20.303 26.308
25th 95.64 onedragondude 71' Nissan Skyline 88 135.87 mph 218.79 km/h 20.723 25.583 22.277 27.057

[Fogelhund]

Points standings after Two events

Driver Car Race 1 Race 2 Points

1st Pumpkin Head Mini Cooper S 175 175 350
2nd Rennsport Addict Lotus Europa 165 170 335
3rd Fogelhund 69' Chevrolet Camaro 170 160 330
4th HareTurtle 69' Chevrolet Camaro 155 146 301
5th krt917 Shelby GT350 150 150 300
6th krtlex 67' Chevrolet Corvette 142 155 297
7th Green Eggs and Ham Toyota Starlet 127 165 292
8th GTV27 Shelby GT350 160 121 281
9th woodruffj_350 Shelby GT350 134 138 272
10th woodruffj_67' 67' Chevrolet Corvette 130 130 260
11th woodruffj_240Z Datsun 240Z 138 109 247
12th Lee Janotta Lancia Stratos 146 100 246
13th JuanDon Lancia Delta Integrale 121 124 245
14th JaFa 71' Lotus Elan S4 115 127 242
15th GTV28 69' Chevrolet Camaro 124 103 227
16th woodruffj_82 82' Chevrolet Corvette 118 106 224
17th GTV26 67' Chevrolet Corvette 109 115 224
18th psonefreak Lancia Delta Integrale 91 91 182
19th onedragondude 71' Nissan Skyline 88 88 176
20th D Lancia Stratos 142 142
21st Dennis Kaira Lotus Europa 134 134
22nd Dionysis 69' Chevrolet Camaro 118 118
23rd BodySnatcher Shelby GT350 112 112
24th sillytron Shelby GT350 112 112
25th VeeDub 71' Nissan Skyline 106 106
26th racer69 Mazda RX7 103 103
27th Mux Shelby GT350 100 100
28th rocket Shelby GT350 97 97
29th skynrd 69' Chevrolet Camaro 97 97
30th SlipZstEm 71' Nissan Skyline 94 94
31st General Trail Toyota MR2 94 94

[Lee Janotta]

I _hate_ this track.

It's looking like I might have to pull out of the championship anyhow, I've got an insane workload at uni for the next 5 weeks.

[Fogelhund]

Lee I hope that you don't pull out, but I certainly do appreciate that there are more important things then racing Granturismo. If this has to do at all with disappointment about the result, take a hard look how you did. You appear to have been 4th until the final chicane, and just didn't go in hard enough. Live a little, learn a little.

I hope you stay, but we'll see you in the next round if not. Good Luck either way.

On track, first to track is the Starlet, 49.5 Sector 2.

[Lee Janotta]

Actually, it was the approach to the chicane. I had massive understeer going into that left-hander right before the chicane, and I had to tap the brakes to unsettle the car. I was giving ten-tenths thru the chicane itself.

I'll probably keep entering, but I won't be able to really work to cut down my times with practice.

[krt917]

I know what you mean Lee. The last couple of weeks haven't been too bad, but by R4 I'll have open exams to do, so won't be able to put the track time in unless I stay up really late (um, there's an idea!). What are you studying by the way?

I'd like to thank Fogelhund for his (suspension) set-up advice this week, without which I wouldn't have been as high up the list. Cheers!

[Lee Janotta]

I'm a journalism major, studying at Kent State University. I'm just trying to finish up some electives over the summer... 9 credit hours in 5 weeks (12 credits would be considered full-time in a 16-week session, so this is rather intense).

Yourself?

[krt917]

Wow, a fair old amount then!

I'm a History undergraduate in my second year. This term hasn't - on the whole - been too bad, but I've got a strange 2 week open exam starting Friday. I'm still trying to work out how to fit the GT2ing in!

I had a look at your sector times - it's a shame about sector 4 as the other three were really good.

[Lee Janotta]

Hmm, I've never had exams like that.

Yeah, well, that's the downside of this sort of "racing"... With other cars on the track, I'd have been fast around the rest of the course, passes a bunch of people going thru few turns, then waited for the leaders to catch up to the backmarkers... Overtaking's one of my best strengths, I've always been weak on qualifying.

Oh well... This is still fun.

[rocket]

sec2 time so far 49.775 in the shelby @ 152.89mph

[GTV27]

Team GTV best sector two times so far:

GTV26 in 67 Vette 49.721
GTV28 in Z28 Camaro 49.134
GTV27 in GT350 Mustang 49.007

Rocket - don't know how you got such a great terminal speed out of your Mustang - I'm maxed out at 145mph - which will probably show once full lap times are revealed

[rocket]

the way its working, it's just about maxed out at the first corner & pulling on that specific lap 244.63km/h. i have managed to get a faster speed but haven't held it together, same as i've had some quicker sec2 times but havent held it for the full lap

[GTV27]

Yeah, the first corner off the straight is a bit hairy - had a couple of wild rides across the grass on the right hand side (which of course screws the lap).

Am also having trouble carrying any sort of decent pace in the right hander between the tunnels (ie where GV East deviates). Must be losing heaps of time there.

[krt917]

Oh, the right-hander there is awful. The Stingray is bad through the previous left-hander as well. Have got both down to 49.2, though as your times suggest GTV, that seems to indicate I'm not making the most of the Shelby - it should be quicker than the Stingray up to there. The Stingray absolutely blows the Mustang away in the final sector. Until then, I've found them quite close.

[Fogelhund]

Rennsport Addict has been fully frustrated by the lack of power and the unique handling characteristics of the Europa. Stints in the grass in the first left sweeper, and sudden changes of direction in just about every other corner are some of the treats of this fine car. The most frustrating corner is the s bend on the way down the hill to final chicane. On numerous great laps, the car has suddenly just jumped onto the grass on the left side of the track. Bloody Brilliant I tell you.

Then all of the sudden. 48.4 @ 150.11 mph. I can only hope that Stingray krt is talking about doesn't blow my doors off down the final straight.

[Fogelhund]

Pumpkin Head gets the Mini moving fairly well. Sector 2 of 48.3 @ 144 mph, with some room left for improvement.

[krt917]

I've FINALLY done a decent lap with the Mustang, having played a bit more with the suspension settings. Did a 48.6 and the rest of the lap wasn't too bad. Still can't get on terms with the Stingray though, even though its handling is still far from sorted. Maximum Speed with the Stingray is about 268km/h ish - what's that in mph?

Wouldn't worry too much Fogelhund - the Stingray doesn't like the hairpin out of the tunnel, or the last corner, very much. It always feels like I have to wait ages to get on the power!

[GTV27]

krt - my stingray is doing exactly the same things - but is faster than the mustang overall (even through it FEELS TERRIBLE to drive) - it really monsters the 'stang over the second half (despite being a bag of sh!t into and out of the hairpins).

[krt917]

I guess that's the handicap of a having all the power for the end of the lap. Mind you, the Shelby with that amount of power would still be a lot better!

I can't put alll my best splits together in the Stingray. I'm either a bit off in the first sector, or do a decent job through there and somehow lose it in the second half of the lap - grrrrrr!

[Fogelhund]

Results are delayed until late tonight, or tomorrow. Sorry really busy day at work.

[Fogelhund]

I'll do the full list tonight.

I believe that the results for this round are...

1. krtlex 67' Vette
2. GTV26 67 Vette
3. Fogelhund Camaro
4. D Stratos

Details to follow, congrats to krtlex, and GTV

[John Turner]

Nice one, Kev!

[Lee Janotta]

Sorry guys, I wasn't even able to touch my Playstation since the last round.