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Old 14 Mar 2003, 22:34 (Ref:536473)   #1
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The Years First "Silly Season" Thread!

ok, with one race out of the way, the season ahead is blindingly obvious and we all know who's going to be going where and as "silly season" seems to get earlier each year i thought now would be a good time to start a thread about it ... ok, no one knows whats going to happen, but it will be fun to guess, here's my predictions for F1 seats in 2004...

Ferrari.....M.Schumacher R.Barrichello
Williams....J.P.Montoya A.Pizzonia
McLaren.....K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella
Sauber......Heinz Harold Frentzen R.Schumacher
Renault.....J.Trulli F.Alonso
Jordan......N.Heidfeld R.Firmin
Jaguar......M.Webber D.Coulthard
BAR.........J.Button T.Sato
Toyota......O.Panis A.Davidson
Minardi.....anyones guess!!
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Old 14 Mar 2003, 22:42 (Ref:536479)   #2
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2004?
Uhm...

Ferrari.....M.Schumacher R.Barrichello
Williams....J.Villeneuve J.P.Montoya
McLaren.....K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella
Sauber......Heinz-Harald Frentzen J.Wilson
Renault.....J.Trulli F.Alonso
Jordan......N.Heidfeld T.Sato
Jaguar......M.Webber D.Coulthard
BAR.........J.Button A.Davidson
Toyota......O.Panis R.Schumacher
Minardi.....J.Verstappen & some guy (probably a Russian)

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Old 14 Mar 2003, 23:24 (Ref:536499)   #3
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2004

Ferrari.....M.Schumacher, R.Barrichello
Williams....J.P.Montoya, ?
McLaren.....K.Raikkonen, D.Coulthard
Sauber......Heinz-Harald Frentzen, N. Heidfeld
Renault.....J.Trulli, F.Alonso
Jordan......? ,?
Jaguar......M.Webber J. Verstappen
BAR.........J.Button T. Sato
Toyota......O.Panis R.Schumacher

No Minardi in 2004!
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Old 14 Mar 2003, 23:44 (Ref:536516)   #4
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I know for a nearly fact that Villenueve won't be doing F1 next year.
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Old 14 Mar 2003, 23:46 (Ref:536517)   #5
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I know for a nearly fact that Villenueve won't be doing F1 next year.
please en-lighten us SS!!!!
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Old 14 Mar 2003, 23:51 (Ref:536521)   #6
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What does that 'SS' stand for anyway?
Schutzstaffel? Serious Sam? Soggy Socket?


Just wondering...
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Old 15 Mar 2003, 00:00 (Ref:536532)   #7
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Errr.... Soggy Socket? :confused:
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Old 15 Mar 2003, 00:02 (Ref:536533)   #8
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Yeah, soggy socket....
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Old 15 Mar 2003, 00:05 (Ref:536538)   #9
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Everyone in the paddocks know that JV is a prima donna and a **** poor team player. Who would want him?
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Old 15 Mar 2003, 00:14 (Ref:536542)   #10
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SS, you can't come on here, race official or not, and say something like that without telling us. Pleeeeeaaaaaasssseeee tell us
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Old 15 Mar 2003, 00:53 (Ref:536560)   #11
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I've reached that same conclusion, but without any actually evidence. Consider, though, BAR's got Bunsen, Davidson and Sato not demanding Jacques' salary, Craig Pollack has a new CART team with a _miserable_ excuse for a driver in Patrick LeMarie... Just makes sense.
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Old 15 Mar 2003, 01:11 (Ref:536572)   #12
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Ferrari.....M.Schumacher, R.Barrichello
Williams....J.P.Montoya,Webber
McLaren.....K.Raikkonen, D.Coulthard
Sauber......Heinz-Harald Frentzen, N. Heidfeld
Renault.....J.Trulli, F.Alonso
Jordan......R.Schumacher/Firman
Jaguar...... J. Verstappen/Wurz
BAR.........J.Button T. Sato
Toyota......O.Panis/da Matta
Minardi......Villeneuve/Yoong
Red Bull/Eagle..Herta/Vasser
Ganassi Toyota..Dixon/Scheckter
Penske Mercedes..DeFerran/Castroneves
Rahal Lola.......Brack/Papis
Players Reynard..Tracy/Franchitti
Carlin Dallara....van der Merwe/Green
Team Toyota(Nippon)..Kogure/Hattori
Team British Ford....Kerr/Courtney
Coloni Ferrari.......Baumgartner/Sperfico
Draco F1...........Farfus/S.Hedfeild

You guys forgot all the new teams that will come to F1 next season
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Old 15 Mar 2003, 02:04 (Ref:536588)   #13
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Armco, you have got to be the biggest optimist I've ever seen on thse boards!

Well 2nd biggest, after those guys that think Jacques will have a seat next year.
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Old 15 Mar 2003, 03:51 (Ref:536628)   #14
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2004?
Uhm...

Ferrari.....M.Schumacher R.Barrichello
Williams....J.Villeneuve J.P.Montoya
McLaren.....K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella
Sauber......Heinz-Harald Frentzen J.Wilson
Renault.....J.Trulli F.Alonso
Jordan......N.Heidfeld T.Sato
Jaguar......M.Webber D.Coulthard
BAR.........J.Button A.Davidson
Toyota......O.Panis R.Schumacher
Minardi.....J.Verstappen & some guy (probably a Russian)
Oh!! I like this one. I'll run with this guy, and i'll call him "Ninja"
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Old 15 Mar 2003, 03:55 (Ref:536632)   #15
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EERO should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridEERO should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridEERO should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridEERO should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Armco, you forgot Phoenix!

I like Mr. V's list, but I think Panis may retire after this season, and put Heidfeld there in his place.
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Old 15 Mar 2003, 05:37 (Ref:536657)   #16
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I think Da Mattta will still be at Toyota too, he has a two year contract and I'd be surprised to see him mess up again like he did in Australia.

As for Villeneuve, I think he'll either be with BAR, one of the top teams, racing in Cart, or retired. I'll guess the later.
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Old 15 Mar 2003, 05:54 (Ref:536659)   #17
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Do we think Schuey will throw the toys out of the pram if he doesnt win this season and retire??

Minardi will still be around in 2004, might be called Volkswager or something.... Jacques might get a drive there you reckon? From the penthouse with Williams, to the semi-detached federation style at BAR, to the outhouse at Minardi, all in the space of 8 years... WOOHOO!!!
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Old 15 Mar 2003, 07:47 (Ref:536696)   #18
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As for Villeneuve, I think he'll either be with BAR, one of the top teams, racing in Cart, or retired. I'll guess the later.
Well Jay, thats every concievable possability

I'd put my money on him being out of F1.
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Ferrari - Same
Williams - JPM and ?. Ralf gone
McLaren - Kimi and DC
Renault - Same
Sauber - Same
Jordan - Fisi and Wilson. Firman gone
BAR - Button and ?. JV retires
Toyota - Same
Jaguar - Same, unless Pizzonia fails to score, then he's gone
Minardi - Jos and ?
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Old 15 Mar 2003, 12:46 (Ref:536901)   #20
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Oh sorry,I got a bit excited,40 cars would be great though .

The Pessimists line up for 2004:
Ferrari.....M.Schumacher/F.Massa
Williams....J.P.Montoya/Webber
McLaren.....Verstappen/Yoong
Sauber......Unable to pay for Ferrai engines,Withdrawn.
Renault.....French sharemarket collapsed,team insolvent
Jordan......Withdrew,financial,pending sale to RedBull
Jaguar......Withdrawn,Ford pulled plug on F1 programme
BAR.........Team fell apart,legal action pending
Toyota......Went to IRL,disillusioned with F1
Minardi.....Went broke mid 2003
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Old 15 Mar 2003, 13:32 (Ref:536917)   #21
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Let's not forget F1 Racing mag's speculation that BMW will jump ship to B.A.R. and Honda will re-unite with Williams...
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Bad news for BMW, great news for Honda
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Great news for BAR, bad news for Williams

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Old 15 Mar 2003, 14:49 (Ref:536965)   #24
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We should have an official prediction competition on this

Ferrari: Michael and Rubens
Williams: Montoya and Fisichella
McLaren: Raikkonen and DC
Renault: Alonso and Heidfeld
Sauber: Frentzen and Ralf
Toyota: Panis and Da Matta (I think he'll do well, but he'll have to)
BAR: Button and Sato (JV to CART)
Jaguar: Webber and Wilson
Jordan: Trulli and Pizzonia
Minardi: have cash, will drive (slowly)
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The Pessimists line up for 2004:
Ferrari.....M.Schumacher/F.Massa
Williams....J.P.Montoya/Webber
McLaren.....Verstappen/Yoong
Sauber......Unable to pay for Ferrai engines,Withdrawn.
Renault.....French sharemarket collapsed,team insolvent
Jordan......Withdrew,financial,pending sale to RedBull
Jaguar......Withdrawn,Ford pulled plug on F1 programme
BAR.........Team fell apart,legal action pending
Toyota......Went to IRL,disillusioned with F1
Minardi.....Went broke mid 2003
Other than Yoong at McLaren, there's a little logic in this ist.

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