Williams Reverse Tobacco Trend

Led ZeppF1 · 15 Apr 2003, 07:04 (Ref:569831)

Williams to announce new anti tobacco sponsor, Niquitin. This multi million-dollar deal will replaces Veltins.

Look at: http://sport.telegraph.co.uk/sport/m...5/ixsport.html

Well Williams are definitely thinking ahead to the tobacco ban. They have Compaq/HP to replace Rothmans-Winfield.

What about the others? Ferrari have Vodafone, but what about McLaren, Renault, and BAR?

Red · 15 Apr 2003, 08:09 (Ref:569861)

Williams didn't have tobacco sponsorship for some time... Anyway, they're going anti alcohoolic as well I reckon... Replacing Veltins? Do they know something we don't know? Ban on beer ads in foreseeable future?

DNQ · 15 Apr 2003, 08:23 (Ref:569867)

Haven't Veltins been off the cars since mid 2002?

Logrence · 15 Apr 2003, 15:06 (Ref:570175)

Veltins sponsor the Jags now.

Apparently McLaren tried to lure HSBC away from Jaguar but failed. The West deal ends at the end of the 2004 season...

Red · 15 Apr 2003, 15:16 (Ref:570183)

I expect some tough battles for sponsors in the near future... almost similar to those that happen right now in F1GrandPrixManager on-line game...

Damon · 15 Apr 2003, 15:36 (Ref:570203)

Quote:

Originally posted by Red
Williams didn't have tobacco sponsorship for some time... Anyway, they're going anti alcohoolic as well I reckon... Replacing Veltins? Do they know something we don't know? Ban on beer ads in foreseeable future?

I've always found it odd that tobacco is seen as the evil demon in motor racing sponsorship yet the link between alcohol and driving is fine :confused:.

Red · 15 Apr 2003, 15:40 (Ref:570209)

Strange world isn't it Damon...

Sodemo · 15 Apr 2003, 16:26 (Ref:570246)

And here it is...

Vw gti 16v · 15 Apr 2003, 17:43 (Ref:570307)

well ok it is a anti tobacco name but i think that no matter whther it is on a ferrari or minardi i think that will not make smokers want to stop

429CJ · 15 Apr 2003, 17:51 (Ref:570315)

Few more sponsors like this, and Max cannot pressure EU for introducing the Grand Prix of Absurbanistan, or similar to replace all European GP

. :P

Nicholas · 15 Apr 2003, 20:41 (Ref:570493)

Quote:

Originally posted by Vw gti 16v
well ok it is a anti tobacco name but i think that no matter whther it is on a ferrari or minardi i think that will not make smokers want to stop

But then you'd have to be a pretty sad person if you became anti-war just because of Minardi or started smoking Marlboros because of Ferrari

I'm surprised something like this hasn't been done earlier, I guessed the anti-tobacco people don't have quite the same amount of dosh as the likes of BAT and Philip Morris...

RWC · 16 Apr 2003, 01:37 (Ref:570688)

This is funny.This is REALLY funny.For years f1 has made SHEDloads of money out of you smokers and now they still will when you quit(or try to as it often goes)!!!LOL

Led ZeppF1 · 16 Apr 2003, 05:42 (Ref:570768)

Quote:

Originally posted by DNQ
Haven't Veltins been off the cars since mid 2002?

Nope. It was at the end of last season.

Red · 16 Apr 2003, 05:46 (Ref:570770)

It was at the beginning of this season too. Actually PlanetF1 still lists them among Williams sponsors... (and I remember recently on TV, ads featuring Ralf Schumacher and his entire mechanics crew)

Miss Hardt · 16 Apr 2003, 07:43 (Ref:570828)

Yes, I saw something like that on German TV too.

Damon · 16 Apr 2003, 08:01 (Ref:570839)

Quote:

Originally posted by 429CJ
Few more sponsors like this, and Max cannot pressure EU for introducing the Grand Prix of Absurbanistan, or similar to replace all European GP. :P

This raises an interesting question actually. Was Spa not dropped following a unanimous vote by the teams not to race there without cigarette advertising? Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but don't 5 of the now 10 teams have no link to tobacco what so ever? What was the incentive then for these teams to vote out spa? It would certainly be interesting to know.

RWC · 16 Apr 2003, 11:14 (Ref:570980)

Plain and simple ,Damon -Bernie wants a spare place in the calender for a race somewhere else.France,britain germany,etc have been ruinning without tobacco adds for years but he dares not pick on them

Dutton · 16 Apr 2003, 16:24 (Ref:571293)

This avenue has been available for a long-time, the surprise is that it has taken one of them so long to go down it.

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