Lydden Legend Festival 2024

[tbtstt]

Just seen this pop up on Facebook this morning...



...just read the blurb and it seems that the same team behind the Loheac Legend event this year (which looked great but was rather lacking in coverage) are bringing the same show to Lydden for 2024.

Could be a good weekend if they get a similar number/quality of entry as Loheac. The date is notable though: that is the same weekend that World RX was this year?

[BertMk2]

Interesting - hopefully a good event. Any details anywhere other than Facebook? I guess at this stage details are few and far between.

Not sure if the date is significant - has any news about a WRX calendar for next year been announced yet? Maybe that's waiting on the outcome of the investigation into the Lydden fire?

[tbtstt]

Originally Posted by BertMk2

Interesting - hopefully a good event. Any details anywhere other than Facebook? I guess at this stage details are few and far between.

I spotted a mail out email in my junk folder after seeing the Facebook post. Bit more info here:

Lydden Legend Summer Event

Confirms that there is at least some association with the Loheac event. Looks like the Friday is a welcome gala, then two days of track action?

Originally Posted by BertMk2

Not sure if the date is significant - has any news about a WRX calendar for next year been announced yet? Maybe that's waiting on the outcome of the investigation into the Lydden fire?

I didn't want to go full Facebook comment section and jump to conclusions with zero evidence, but I was wondering if this was a tell about the 2024 World RX calendar (or lack thereof).

In my (utterly inexpert) opinion I still think the investigation could take many, many, months. Although they have a solution to finish this years season, I don't think that could/would work for a full season. Is the best option to postpone next year and look to 2025?... that's probably a chat for the World RX thread!

[BertMk2]

Originally Posted by tbtstt

I spotted a mail out email in my junk folder after seeing the Facebook post. Bit more info here:

Lydden Legend Summer Event

Confirms that there is at least some association with the Loheac event. Looks like the Friday is a welcome gala, then two days of track action?

From that it sounds promising doesn't it? Full on racing from the Retro championship and then 'demos' from the other machinery - I assume that'll be a mix of people giving it the full beans and others pootling (presumably the organisers will split the cars accordingly!)

Originally Posted by tbtstt

I didn't want to go full Facebook comment section and jump to conclusions with zero evidence, but I was wondering if this was a tell about the 2024 World RX calendar (or lack thereof).

In my (utterly inexpert) opinion I still think the investigation could take many, many, months. Although they have a solution to finish this years season, I don't think that could/would work for a full season. Is the best option to postpone next year and look to 2025?... that's probably a chat for the World RX thread!

Agreed

[tbtstt]

Originally Posted by BertMk2

From that it sounds promising doesn't it? Full on racing from the Retro championship and then 'demos' from the other machinery - I assume that'll be a mix of people giving it the full beans and others pootling (presumably the organisers will split the cars accordingly!)

What I saw of the Loheac event looked great (like I said in my first post, my only real critique was that there didn't seem to be much "official" coverage/footage). If they can get a chunk of the Euro machinery over here (especially the 4WD cars) it should be a great weekend.

[CS1]

Any rumours of surprise cars/drivers?

[tbtstt]

Originally Posted by CS1

Any rumours of surprise cars/drivers?

Officially confirmed so far...

Alpine A310 Politecnic - Gustave Terriere
BMW E30 M3 - Patrick Briffaud
Ford RS200 - Mark Rennison
Lancia 037 - Dave Kedward
Renault Clio V6 - Ovenden Motorsport

...hopefully the retro European contingent who were present for the World round last year will all make the trip over again.

I don't know how feasible it is, but I'd love to see the Schanche RS2000 Escort make the trip over.

[CS1]

There must be an awful lot of cars in garages which would be suitable

Knowing Pat im sure he is working very hard behind the scenes and Im sure a few of the old school have been invited

Id like to bet there will be a few surprises over the coming months
Looking forward to the event

[flatlandsman]

they got a lot of stuff over last year, but a lot of it was driven fairly poorly, Pat has I dont think run the Escort since then. It is often the case with events like this, you long to see the cars but often they are driven by rich guys with very little talent, still great to see the cars but you remember them in their heyday, not now sadly

[tbtstt]

Some more event details shown on the Facebook page...



...and a few more cars/drivers officially confirmed the last few weeks, current list:

Alfa Romeo GTV6 - Rémy Duberos
Alpine A310 Politecnic - Gustave Terriere
Audi Sport quattro E2 - David Halford
Austin Mini - Terry Moore
BMW E30 M3 - Patrick Briffaud
BMW E30 M3 - Gary Simpson
Ford Escort Mk.1 - Chris Spooner
Ford Escort Mk.2 - Charlie French
Ford Focus I 4x4 T16 - Andy Grant?
Ford RS200 - Mark Rennison
Ford RS200 - François Delecour
Lancia 037 - Dave Kedward
Lancia Delta S4 - Hans-Peter Füreder
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution III - Lee Kedward
Renault Clio V6 - Ovenden Motorsport
Saab 99 Turbo - Richard Connelly
Talbot Sunbeam Lotus - Gary Gee
Toyota MR2 - Tony Lynch
Triumph TR7 V8 - Nigel Davey
Volkswagen Beetle - James Harrold

[AndyS]

Originally Posted by tbtstt

Some more event details shown on the Facebook page...



...and a few more cars/drivers officially confirmed the last few weeks, current list:

Alfa Romeo GTV6 - Rémy Duberos
Alpine A310 Politecnic - Gustave Terriere
Audi Sport quattro E2 - David Halford
Austin Mini - Terry Moore
BMW E30 M3 - Patrick Briffaud
BMW E30 M3 - Gary Simpson
Ford Escort Mk.1 - Chris Spooner
Ford Escort Mk.2 - Charlie French
Ford Focus I 4x4 T16 - Andy Grant?
Ford RS200 - Mark Rennison
Ford RS200 - François Delecour
Lancia 037 - Dave Kedward
Lancia Delta S4 - Hans-Peter Füreder
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution III - Lee Kedward
Renault Clio V6 - Ovenden Motorsport
Saab 99 Turbo - Richard Connelly
Talbot Sunbeam Lotus - Gary Gee
Toyota MR2 - Tony Lynch
Triumph TR7 V8 - Nigel Davey
Volkswagen Beetle - James Harrold

Delecour in an RS200, that should be good!

[flatlandsman]

I do not know how far some of you go back, but that is not the first time Delecour has driven an RS200 in rallycross

[tbtstt]

Originally Posted by flatlandsman

I do not know how far some of you go back, but that is not the first time Delecour has driven an RS200 in rallycross

I wasn't old enough to appreciate it at the time, but I do know it happened!

Shame that Liam isn't out in Rosie as he is always spectacular in it, but Delecour is generally pretty committed in everything he drives, so hopefully he'll put a good show on.

[CS1]

Delecour is still quick
I’ve seen him at rally legend and he was still fast

[tbtstt]

More additions confirmed, including a pair of 205 T16's:

Alfa Romeo GTV6 - Rémy Duberos
Alpine A310 Politecnic - Gustave Terriere
Audi Sport quattro E2 - David Halford
Austin Mini - Terry Moore
BMW E30 M3 - Patrick Briffaud
BMW E30 M3 - Gary Simpson
Ford Escort Mk.1 - Chris Spooner
Ford Escort Mk.1 - Mark Taylor
Ford Escort Mk.2 - Charlie French
Ford Focus I 4x4 T16 - Andy Grant?
Ford RS200 - Mark Rennison
Ford RS200 - François Delecour
Lancia 037 - Dave Kedward
Lancia Delta S4 - Hans-Peter Füreder
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution III - Lee Kedward
Peugeot 205 T16 - Philippe Tollemer
Peugeot 205 T16 - Jean-Claude Dupont
Porsche 911 - Barry Stewart
Renault Clio V6 - Ovenden Motorsport
Saab 99 Turbo - Richard Connelly
Talbot Sunbeam Lotus - Gary Gee
Toyota MR2 - Tony Lynch
Triumph TR7 V8 - Nigel Davey
Vauxhall Nova - Pat Ryan
Volkswagen Beetle - James Harrold

Also - and perhaps I misheard/misunderstood - but during the livestream for the opening RallyX rounds, Hal Ridge mentioned Lydden Legend and a "Finn in a Fiesta". Could that be Gronholm?

[tbtstt]

Latest update...

Alfa Romeo GTV6 - Rémy Duberos
Alpine A310 Politecnic - Gustave Terriere
Audi 90 S2 quattro - Jacques Fontbonne
Audi Sport quattro E2 - David Halford
Austin Mini - Terry Moore
BMW E30 M3 - Patrick Briffaud
BMW E30 M3 - Gary Simpson
Ford Escort Mk.1 - Chris Spooner
Ford Escort Mk.1 - Dan Swayland
Ford Escort Mk.1 - Mark Taylor
Ford Escort Mk.2 - Charlie French
Ford Escort G3 - Ray Morgan
Ford Escort RS Cosworth - David Bonning
Ford Focus I 4x4 T16 - Andy Grant?
Ford RS200 - Mark Rennison
Ford RS200 - François Delecour
Ford RS200 - Nigel Mummery
Lancia 037 - Dave Kedward
Lancia Delta Integrale - Paul Davies
Lancia Delta S4 - Hans-Peter Füreder
MG Metro 6R4 - Adam Keeler
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution III - Lee Kedward
Mitsubishi Lancer EX Turbo - Mark Bendle
Nissan 240RS - Charlie Gabb
Opel Manta - ?
Peugeot 205 T16 - Philippe Tollemer
Peugeot 205 T16 - Jean-Claude Dupont
Porsche 911 - Barry Stewart
Renault 5 Maxi - Gerard Roussel
Renault Clio V6 - Ovenden Motorsport
Renault Megane 4x4 T16 - Dominique Camerino
Saab 99 Turbo - Richard Connelly
Skoda Favorit - ?
Talbot Sunbeam Lotus - Gary Gee
Talbot Sunbeam Lotus - John Pritchard
Toyota MR2 - Tony Lynch
Triumph TR7 V8 - Nigel Davey
Triumph TR7 V8 - Trevor Hancock
Vauxhall Chevette HSR - David Crockett
Vauxhall Nova - Pat Ryan
Volkswagen Beetle - James Harrold

[BertMk2]

That's quite an impressive list

Do you know which of these are rally cars as opposed to rallycross cars? I assume that some of these will be driven in a "spirited" manner (race?) and others will purely circulate the track or be static in the paddock?

[tbtstt]

Originally Posted by BertMk2

Do you know which of these are rally cars as opposed to rallycross cars? I assume that some of these will be driven in a "spirited" manner (race?) and others will purely circulate the track or be static in the paddock?

I was going to (on a rainy day) go through and add the classes from the various Lydden Legend posts. I do wonder how enthusiastically some of the cars will be driven.

[tbtstt]

Some new additions and I added the classes in from the Facebook posts...

Alfa Romeo GTV6 (Rallycross: 1967-1993) - Rémy Duberos
Alpine A310 Politecnic (Rallycross: 1967-1993) - Gustave Terriere
Audi 90 S2 quattro (Rallycross: 90's Supercar) - Jacques Fontbonne
Audi Sport quattro E2 (Rallycross: Group B) - David Halford
Audi Sport quattro S1 (Rally: 4WD) - Andy Drinks
Austin Mini (Rallycross: 1967-1993) - Terry Moore
BMW E30 M3 (Rallycross: 1967-1993) - Patrick Briffaud
BMW E30 M3 (Rallycross: 1967-1993) - Gary Simpson
Chevrolet Firenza Can-Am (Rally: 2WD) - Mick Strafford
Fiat Ritmo Special (Rally: 2WD) - Michael Covill
Ford Escort Mk.1 (Rally: 2WD) - Chris Spooner
Ford Escort Mk.1 (Rallycross: 1967-1993) - Dan Swayland
Ford Escort Mk.1 (Rally: 2WD) - Mark Taylor
Ford Escort Mk.2 (Rallycross: 1967-1993) - Charlie French
Ford Escort G3 (Rallycross: 1967-1993) - Ray Morgan
Ford Escort RS Cosworth (Rally: 4WD) - David Bonning
Ford Focus I 4x4 T16 (Rallycross: 90's Supercar) - Andy Grant?
Ford RS200 (Rallycross: Group B?) - Mark Rennison
Ford RS200 (Rallycross: Group B?) - François Delecour
Ford RS200 (Rally: 4WD) - Nigel Mummery
Lancia 037 (Rally: 2WD) - Dave Kedward
Lancia Delta Integrale (Rally: 4WD) - Paul Davies
Lancia Delta S4 (Rallycross: Group B) - Hans-Peter Füreder
MG Metro 6R4 (Rally: 4WD) - Adam Keeler
MG Metro 6R4 (Rallycross: 1967-1993) - Rob Gibson
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution III (Rally: 2WD?) - Lee Kedward
Mitsubishi Lancer EX Turbo (Rally: 2WD) - Mark Bendle
Nissan 240RS (Rally: 2WD) - Charlie Gabb
Opel Manta (Rally: 2WD) - ?
Peugeot 205 T16 (Rallycross: Group B) - Philippe Tollemer
Peugeot 205 T16 (Rallycross: 1967-1993) - Jean-Claude Dupont
Porsche 911 (Rallycross: 1967-1993) - Barry Stewart
Renault 5 Maxi (Rallycross: Group B) - Gerard Roussel
Renault Clio V6 (?) - Ovenden Motorsport
Renault Megane 4x4 T16 (Rallycross: 90's Supercar) - Dominique Camerino
Saab 99 Turbo (Rally: 2WD) - Richard Connelly
Skoda Favorit (Rally: 2WD) - ?
Talbot Sunbeam Lotus (Rally: 2WD) - Gary Gee
Talbot Sunbeam Lotus (Rally: 2WD) - John Pritchard
Toyota MR2 (Rallycross: 1967-1993) - Tony Lynch
Triumph TR7 V8 (Rallycross: 1967-1993) - Nigel Davey
Triumph TR7 V8 (Rally: 2WD) - Trevor Hancock
Vauxhall Chevette HSR (Rallycross: 1967-1993) - David Crockett
Vauxhall Nova (Rallycross: 1967-1993) - Pat Ryan
Volkswagen Beetle (Rallycross: 1967-1993) - James Harrold

...there are some omissions (and I think mistakes) in the press releases, but the list rearranged by classes:

Rallycross: Group B (6)

Audi Sport quattro E2 - David Halford
Ford RS200 - Mark Rennison (no category on press release, presume Rallycross: Group B)
Ford RS200 - François Delecour (no category on press release, presume Rallycross: Group B)
Lancia Delta S4 - Hans-Peter Füreder
Peugeot 205 T16 - Philippe Tollemer
Renault 5 Maxi - Gerard Roussel

Rallycross: 1967-1993 (16)

Alfa Romeo GTV6 - Rémy Duberos
Alpine A310 Politecnic - Gustave Terriere
Austin Mini - Terry Moore
BMW E30 M3 - Patrick Briffaud
BMW E30 M3 - Gary Simpson
Ford Escort Mk.1 - Dan Swayland
Ford Escort Mk.2 - Charlie French
Ford Escort G3 - Ray Morgan
MG Metro 6R4 - Rob Gibson (press release says this class, should be Rallycross: Group B?)
Peugeot 205 T16 - Jean-Claude Dupont (press release says this class, should be Rallycross: Group B?)
Porsche 911 - Barry Stewart
Toyota MR2 - Tony Lynch
Triumph TR7 V8 - Nigel Davey
Vauxhall Chevette HSR - David Crockett
Vauxhall Nova - Pat Ryan
Volkswagen Beetle - James Harrold

Rallycross: 90's Supercar (3)

Audi 90 S2 quattro - Jacques Fontbonne
Ford Focus I 4x4 T16 - Andy Grant?
Renault Megane 4x4 T16 - Dominique Camerino

Rally: 2WD (13)

Chevrolet Firenza Can-Am - Mick Strafford
Fiat Ritmo Special - Michael Covill
Ford Escort Mk.1 - Chris Spooner
Ford Escort Mk.1 - Mark Taylor
Lancia 037 - Dave Kedward (no class listed, presume Rally: 2WD)
Mitsubishi Lancer EX Turbo - Mark Bendle
Nissan 240RS - Charlie Gabb
Opel Manta - ?
Saab 99 Turbo - Richard Connelly
Skoda Favorit - ?
Talbot Sunbeam Lotus - Gary Gee
Talbot Sunbeam Lotus - John Pritchard
Triumph TR7 V8 - Trevor Hancock

Rally: 4WD (6)

Audi Sport quattro S1 - Andy Drinks
Ford Escort RS Cosworth - David Bonning
Ford RS200 - Nigel Mummery
Lancia Delta Integrale - Paul Davies
MG Metro 6R4 - Adam Keeler (ex-rallycross car, should be in other class?)
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution III - Lee Kedward (Press release says 2WD, but should be 4WD?)

Unknown: (1)

Renault Clio V6 - Ovenden Motorsport

[CS1]

Anyone know more about the Finn in the Fiesta?

[geordiecriag101]

This is looking like a mega weekend, can't wait.

Looks like we might be seeing more of Liam Doran if his new video on his YouTube channel is anything to go by

https://youtu.be/4gIi0oLH3_A?si=rnkxQMGlVPQ7F-v9

[tbtstt]

Originally Posted by CS1

Anyone know more about the Finn in the Fiesta?

Nothing more said about it (that I have seen).

Originally Posted by geordiecriag101

This is looking like a mega weekend, can't wait.

Looks like we might be seeing more of Liam Doran if his new video on his YouTube channel is anything to go by

He said at the start of the year this is what he was planning to do (I think on Instagram?), but there just seems to have been a stream of Mini wheelies and not much else since.

I see he raced in autograss at the weekend. I have been looking at giving autograss a look for ages, so if I see he is doing a round in the South I'll likely use that as a prompt to get my finger out and give it a look.


More additions to the Lydden Legend list over the weekend as well:

Rallycross: Group B (6)

Audi Sport quattro E2 - David Halford
Ford RS200 - Mark Rennison (no category on press release, presume Rallycross: Group B)
Ford RS200 - François Delecour (no category on press release, presume Rallycross: Group B)
Lancia Delta S4 - Hans-Peter Füreder
Peugeot 205 T16 - Philippe Tollemer
Renault 5 Maxi - Gerard Roussel

Rallycross: 1967-1993 (17)

Alfa Romeo GTV6 - Rémy Duberos
Alpine A310 Politecnic - Gustave Terriere
Austin Mini - Terry Moore
BMW E30 M3 - Patrick Briffaud
BMW E30 M3 - Gary Simpson
Ford Escort Mk.1 - Dan Swayland
Ford Escort Mk.2 - Charlie French
Ford Escort Mk.2 - Pat Doran
Ford Escort G3 - Ray Morgan
MG Metro 6R4 - Rob Gibson (press release says this class, should be Rallycross: Group B?)
Peugeot 205 T16 - Jean-Claude Dupont (press release says this class, should be Rallycross: Group B?)
Porsche 911 - Barry Stewart
Toyota MR2 - Tony Lynch
Triumph TR7 V8 - Nigel Davey
Vauxhall Chevette HSR - David Crockett
Vauxhall Nova - Pat Ryan
Volkswagen Beetle - James Harrold

Rallycross: 90's Supercar (3)

Audi 90 S2 quattro - Jacques Fontbonne
Ford Focus I 4x4 T16 - Andy Grant?
Renault Megane 4x4 T16 - Dominique Camerino

Rally: 2WD (13)

Chevrolet Firenza Can-Am - Mick Strafford
Fiat Ritmo Special - Michael Covill
Ford Escort Mk.1 - Chris Spooner
Ford Escort Mk.1 - Mark Taylor
Lancia 037 - Dave Kedward (no class listed, presume Rally: 2WD)
Mitsubishi Lancer EX Turbo - Mark Bendle
Nissan 240RS - Charlie Gabb
Opel Manta - ?
Saab 99 Turbo - Richard Connelly
Skoda Favorit - ?
Talbot Sunbeam Lotus - Gary Gee
Talbot Sunbeam Lotus - John Pritchard
Triumph TR7 V8 - Trevor Hancock

Rally: 4WD (7)

Audi Sport quattro S1 - Andy Drinks
Ford Escort RS Cosworth - David Bonning
Ford Escort RS Cosworth - Ollie O'Donovan
Ford RS200 - Nigel Mummery
Lancia Delta Integrale - Paul Davies
MG Metro 6R4 - Adam Keeler (ex-rallycross car, should be in other class?)
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution III - Lee Kedward (Press release says 2WD, but should be 4WD?)

Unknown: (1)

Renault Clio V6 - Ovenden Motorsport

[tbtstt]

Kenneth Hansen confirmed to be driving the Peugeot 306, plus some other new additions...

Rallycross: Group B (6)

Audi Sport quattro E2 - David Halford
Ford RS200 - Mark Rennison (no category on press release, presume Rallycross: Group B)
Ford RS200 - François Delecour (no category on press release, presume Rallycross: Group B)
Lancia Delta S4 - Hans-Peter Füreder
Peugeot 205 T16 - Philippe Tollemer
Renault 5 Maxi - Gerard Roussel

Rallycross: 1967-1993 (18)

Alfa Romeo GTV6 - Rémy Duberos
Alpine A310 Politecnic - Gustave Terriere
Austin Mini - Terry Moore
BMW E30 M3 - Patrick Briffaud
BMW E30 M3 - Gary Simpson
Ford Escort Mk.1 - Dan Swayland
Ford Escort Mk.2 - Charlie French
Ford Escort Mk.2 - Pat Doran
Ford Escort G3 - Ray Morgan
MG Metro 6R4 - Rob Gibson (press release says this class, should be Rallycross: Group B?)
Peugeot 205 T16 - Jean-Claude Dupont (press release says this class, should be Rallycross: Group B?)
Porsche 911 - Barry Stewart
Toyota MR2 - Tony Lynch
Triumph TR7 V8 - Nigel Davey
Vauxhall Chevette HSR - David Crockett
Vauxhall Nova - Pat Ryan
Vauxhall Nova - Paul Buckmaster
Volkswagen Beetle - James Harrold

Rallycross: 90's Supercar (4)

Audi 90 S2 quattro - Jacques Fontbonne
Ford Focus I 4x4 T16 - Andy Grant?
Peugeot 306 4x4 T16 - Kenneth Hansen (no class listed, presume Rallycross: 90's Supercar)
Renault Megane 4x4 T16 - Dominique Camerino

Rally: 2WD (15)

Alfa Romeo 155 - ?
BMW E30 M3 - Steve Harkness
Chevrolet Firenza Can-Am - Mick Strafford
Fiat Ritmo Special - Michael Covill
Ford Escort Mk.1 - Chris Spooner
Ford Escort Mk.1 - Mark Taylor
Lancia 037 - Dave Kedward (no class listed, presume Rally: 2WD)
Mitsubishi Lancer EX Turbo - Mark Bendle
Nissan 240RS - Charlie Gabb
Opel Manta - ?
Saab 99 Turbo - Richard Connelly
Skoda Favorit - ?
Talbot Sunbeam Lotus - Gary Gee
Talbot Sunbeam Lotus - John Pritchard
Triumph TR7 V8 - Trevor Hancock

Rally: 4WD (9)

Audi quattro A2 - Mike Barratt
Audi Sport quattro S1 - Andy Drinks
Ford Escort RS Cosworth - David Bonning
Ford Escort RS Cosworth - Ollie O'Donovan
Ford RS200 - Nigel Mummery
Lancia Delta Integrale - Paul Davies
MG Metro 6R4 - Adam Keeler (ex-rallycross car, should be in other class?)
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution III - Lee Kedward (Press release says 2WD, but should be 4WD?)
Subaru Legacy RS - Steve Ward

Festival: (1)

Renault Clio RS - Stéphane Dréan

Unknown: (1)

Renault Clio V6 - Ovenden Motorsport

...54 cars so far.

[BertMk2]

That 306 is one of my favourite rallycross cars I didn't ever see Will Gollop driving it though, it was with Helmut Holfeld when I started watching rallycross, it's had a few owners since then!

[flatlandsman]

I saw the 309 and that car, never really went as well as Will wanted I felt, but by then his budget was feeble compared to those of Martin and the Citroens, he did get some great results though but sadly never won another round.

The 306 is a bit of a Triggers broom and sadly I would prefer to see that old Hansen ZX in his shop come out than a car I have seen countless times, but would be great to see Kenny the true Mr Rallycross for me back out.