Reid given 10-sec Race 3 penalty

rdjones · 9 May 2004, 20:59 (Ref:965891)

I have just seen on another forum that Anthony Reid has been provisionally excluded from the results in race three pending an appeal. It was after the incident with James Thompson.

Hazard · 9 May 2004, 21:01 (Ref:965895)

Yeah, Touringlegend just mentioned it. Quite rightly I feel.

rdjones · 9 May 2004, 21:13 (Ref:965908)

To be honest I'm not suprised, it looked like a bit of strange move from where I was stood.

touringcarnut · 9 May 2004, 21:38 (Ref:965931)

Certainly an incident packed weekend! Bit of bump and scrape, that's the heart of it! Jury out on the Reid move.

Did Neal hit Reid on the wind down lap?

**bella** · 9 May 2004, 21:42 (Ref:965935)

reid was a bit dirty at times i thought, but no more so than huff. certainly a weekend for the handbags it seemed!

Kicking-back · 9 May 2004, 21:51 (Ref:965945)

Harsh move to exclude him.

It was an all action race.

That's what the punters want to see.

the king · 9 May 2004, 22:33 (Ref:965972)

If you want to see that sort of driving as demonstrated by Reid, then you'd be better off at Wimbledon Stadium.

angusdawe · 10 May 2004, 02:10 (Ref:966063)

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Originally posted by touringcarnut
Certainly an incident packed weekend! Bit of bump and scrape, that's the heart of it! Jury out on the Reid move.

Did Neal hit Reid on the wind down lap?

Yes.

It was a very telling moment.

Reid is fighting with no factory or sponsor backing, and being a world class touring driver. Notions that he is Wimbledon stadium like are insulting. Thompson with ballast is 15 feet wide and is always nerfed.... Not like stockcars, but like touring cars. For him to moan when he uses the same tactics stinks...

Neal and Thompson moaning about rear end nudges, and getting heard....the world has gone mad.

My only joy is the unpopular but very fast Chilton showed everyone today that there is another way...

the king · 10 May 2004, 06:16 (Ref:966134)

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Notions that he is Wimbledon stadium like are insulting

a) it was meant to be
b) On the Toca forum you use the phrase

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"the move on Thommo was a bit stockcar".

On here you say

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Not like stockcars, but like touring cars

So was it or wasn't it? I think it was and a 10 sec penaly is derisory. That's less than a drive through. Still gets the win and still gets the cash. Some penalty.

goforit500 · 10 May 2004, 07:38 (Ref:966185)

IMO - Reid always has been a dirty driver and frequently crosses the line between hard and unfair racing. The guy needs a meaningful ban - Say 3 or 6 months.

He crossed the line on several occasions yesterday - No wonder the junior classes look like dodgems when the premier classes act like hooligans and spoiled brats.

the_tsar · 10 May 2004, 09:52 (Ref:966301)

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Originally posted by goforit500
IMO - Reid always has been a dirty driver and frequently crosses the line between hard and unfair racing. The guy needs a meaningful ban - Say 3 or 6 months.

He crossed the line on several occasions yesterday - No wonder the junior classes look like dodgems when the premier classes act like hooligans and spoiled brats.

I think that is a little OTT. Reid is a hard racer and good for the series. I don't think it was worth getting excluded and you can't be serious when you say he should be banned.

ADnet · 10 May 2004, 10:29 (Ref:966331)

get lost, touring cars has contact full stop, if you want to go around banning left right and centre, then we'll become an f1 no overtaking sport

goforit500 · 10 May 2004, 10:58 (Ref:966355)

Ooooohhhh Touchy This morning aren't we !!

No dispute, all forms of tin-top racing has some contact and that is part & parcel of this form of racing. However there is fair and unfair. Mr Reid batters his way through if he can't get by fair and square and his blameless attitude stinks of arrogance afterwards....

cos · 10 May 2004, 13:34 (Ref:966486)

Can a mod change the title of this thread? Reid has not been excluded, but he has been given a 10s penalty after he appealed against the decision.

ATF · 10 May 2004, 15:14 (Ref:966585)

Still top indy and keeps indy win but drops to 22 points behind series leader Thompson.

touringcarnut · 10 May 2004, 15:31 (Ref:966609)

Reid has contributed more to the series than many drivers.

He is one of the few drivers that makes this series great and worth watching unlike the characterless boring formula one that we have today.

The very suggestion of Reid being 'banned' is absurd. The day that people like Reid get banned is the day I give up on the series.

Jimeth · 10 May 2004, 16:23 (Ref:966649)

I agree completely with touringcarnut. The series needs people like Reid, without drivers like him the races would be lifeless and dull. Of course he's gonna be racing hard, he's looking for sponsors!

**touringlegend** · 10 May 2004, 16:56 (Ref:966675)

If the move had been for say, 10th spot I'm sure no one would've given him any penalties.

I agree with the point that many other drivers (Huff included) were well harsh on others yesterday, and no action was taken, but hey these race officials are only human and do make mistakes..

I'd be interested to know if any action was taken on Breeze for his move on Turkington in Race 1(?), where he put his foot down and kept turning the ZS straight round...

angusdawe · 10 May 2004, 17:33 (Ref:966698)

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So was it or wasn't it? I think it was and a 10 sec penaly is derisory. That's less than a drive through. Still gets the win and still gets the cash. Some penalty.

I was refering to different incidents. Chilton at Brands was fine but the Reid nerf (right in front of me) was a bit boisterous... But Thommo was blocking quite hard, and he did turn into reid....

Carrie · 10 May 2004, 19:05 (Ref:966797)

I hadn't realised that Reid had just got a ten second penalty until I was adding up the predictions comp scores earlier this evening.

I'll reserve any judgement until I've seen the TV coverage which judging from what we saw at Silverstone yesterday may well be very interesting.

Super Tourer · 11 May 2004, 06:45 (Ref:967233)

Undoubtedly Reid is a 'veteran' and character of the series, but I though his driving at Silverstone was appalling.

There is a difference between hard, fair racing with a bit of rubbing, and knocking people out of the way, he even managed to barge his team mate into a spin in one race - this from someone who is at pains to tell us how short of money the team is - barging your team mate off the track is sure fire way not to save money, what if Turkington had ended the race in the barrier with expensive damage to fix, that the team can't afford.

I have admired some of Reid's never say die moves in the past, but to me if he can't get by, he does seem to resort coming 'through' the car in front and has 'had' cars off in virtually all the races IIRC.

Chris Y · 11 May 2004, 08:15 (Ref:967315)

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Originally posted by Super Tourer
..he even managed to barge his team mate into a spin in one race

It was actually one of the Sureterm cars that punted Turkington. Reid was ahead of Turkington's battle. Don't get confused with all the black cars about the place.

TimD · 11 May 2004, 08:34 (Ref:967343)

Um, Chris, didn't Colin Turkington get swatted at Abbey by an MG as well as the incident at the complex?

The Bear · 11 May 2004, 08:47 (Ref:967355)

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Originally posted by TimD
Um, Chris, didn't Colin Turkington get swatted at Abbey by an MG as well as the incident at the complex?

Reid did hit Turkington and spin him. Afterwards he said he slid on the greasy track under braking. Turkington seemed to get hit by lots of cars on Sunday!

Super Tourer · 11 May 2004, 10:04 (Ref:967425)

I def saw Reid brake too late and hit Turkington, sending him into a spin.

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