New and confused?????

[z2252314]

Ive been coming to this forum for months now, but I am a bit confused. Is this an anti-Schumi website? I only ask because there tends to be a lot of cynical comments towards him. I was a huge Gilles Fan, and then I began to follow Senna. After Senna's death I stopped watching F1 for a couple of months. I must admit, that like most people, I too hated MS. My feelings towards Senna prevented me from liking any other driver, especially MS. However, I couldnt deny his talent. Barcelona 96 was incredible, and his wet drives at Spa where breathtaking. His dominance in the wet brang back memories of Gilles and Ayrton. When Senna died, I convinced myself that I would never see a better driver. Now, I am begginning to question that. Who was better? Im still not sure. What is certain, is that F1 fans were robbed of what would have been one of the fiercest rivalries. Ill leave now with a brief comment on the greats I've been privaleged to watch since 75'.

Lauda- very quick in his young days, and had more balls than any other driver Ive seen

Gilles- No one will ever match his car control. This guy was the David Copperfield of F1-Pure magic. Definately the most entertaining driver Ive ever seen.

Prost- Although not a fan, his achievements are incredible. He has to be in anyone's top 5. His speed was underestimated, and perhaps the best thinker of all time (MS is close)

Senna- will always be the quickest driver over a lap. A fierce racer, who would have beaten Alain's 51 record. More charisma than anyone in the paddock. How would he have handled an equally zealous young Schumacher?

Schumacher- the guy doesnt have a weakness. He nearly has Senna's speed over a lap, and perhaps the best race craft of all time. As a team boss, if you want somebody to win a race, then he is your man. Like Senna, at times controversial, but always good to watch.

P.S Sorry for my strange username. Calling me "z" will be fine.

[Roy2]

Z

BL00dy good. You give them each the credit they deserve, and raise the questions instead of dictate the answers.
Welcome

[Inigo Montoya]

Welcome Z. I think you'll find this to be the most level headed of the F1 forums. I'm relatively new here as well, but I like it around here. Its not anti-schumi here, in fact, I'm a schumi fan myself, and have yet to be criticized for it <knocks on wood>...

[f1grandprixshop]

Welcome Z!

This site is not anti-schumi, and it's not pro-schumi either! It's more of anti-JPM! hehe just kidding! In this forum you'll find all the F1 fans of each driver, pro, anti and,neutral. Feel free to air what's on your mind.



cheers!

[neutral]

Welcome "z". I understand that this forum is perhaps a bit different to the usual, but dont worry everyone is welcome. It was worse when i joined, I think there were about 3 schumi fans in all. Now its getting a bit more balanced, although were still heavily outnumbered. I liked your views and tend to agree on most of them. Anyway, enough nice talk, enjoy the forum.

Neutral

[Maxmil]

Welcome Z, or Zed? if you don't mind. Judging from your first post, I think you will like this forum. I try hard not to get personal about drivers, and that seems to suit enough of the others here that the group gets along pretty well.

[kuchi]

Welcome Z, so, are you the old guy from Men in Black?????:confused: , to many smilies I know, I consider my self a tgf critic, but I don't hate him, I think he is great, but I just love montoya The issue here is not if someone critisizes Shumi, what matters is the way you do it. As for the forum, let me tell you, you came to the right place, this is a free forum, with very nice people in it, and everyone is on the good mood. So have fun!!.

[economy_waffle]

ok ok ok, hello and welcome Z!!!

spot on m8 my word the first person who actually likes all of these guys, it usually just one rules and the rest overated...

[JeremySmith]

Welcome Z.... On the subject of Michael Schumacher..Well let's see..Some of the forum members just don't care for him,I am a big fan of Ferrari and TGF as they call him here( it's not meant to be rude)just a shorthand method of typing his name.

Most of the people here are very knowledgable, and I have learnt much from them..Post's like "Montoya is garbage" I have no time for..If he was indeed "garbage" Sir Frank Williams and Patrick Head would not have hired him,end of story in my book..We attack the post and NOT the poster here at 10Tenths..So have a great time mate,BTW I enjoyed reading your introduction very much..

Regards...Jeremy

[EERO]

Welcome, Z,
Its great to have you aboard. The only thing that we are "Anti" about is rude behavior. About TGF, or "That German Fellow" (Schumacher) we are a divided camp. We have fans and a "Loyal opposition". A lot of negative are said about him, but he has zealous supporters as well.

All opinions are welcome and a good argument will get people to see things differently, even to change their minds.

For the record, I am not a Schumacher fan, but Gerard is.

[mjstallard]

Welcome Z

Although I may be somewhat cynical about Schumi now and then, I do begrudgingly accept that he is the best in the world at the moment (albeit with Mika a gnat's wing away ), and as such I accept that there has to be a small pocket of people living on a very small island somewhere that support him...

Like others have said, people here are friendly and don't allow conversation to fall down into the realms of "x is god" or "x is *%^*%"...you're never a thread away from a good, balanced discussion...well, most of the time anyway!

[paulzinho]

Welcome z. Nice first post.

[Ralf's Girl]

Welcome to the boards, Z. I'm not what I would call anti-TGF, but I'm definitely one of his critics. I dislike him as a driver, but to say he isn't good is ridiculous! We're a pretty diverse group of people here, so you can probably find a fan of every driver and every team somewhere.

And I award prizes if people can guess who I support...

[JeremySmith]

Juan Pablo Montoya..I am right RG?? The driver that you support that is..Or am I just old and confused?

[Ralf's Girl]

Am I really that obvious?

You're old and confused as well though...

[JeremySmith]

You are darlin...And I knew I was..Darn it! Maybe I should talk to "I Ate Yoko Ono" maybe he has the answer?

[Alan Jones]

Welcome Z,
hope you enjoy yourself here.

AJ

[Sodemo]

I am NOT an MS fan, yet I don't deny that the guy has talent.

I just think that in my eyes, no matter what his achievements may be, there will always be a cloud of distrust which hovers over MS, which taints whatever records he has reached.

I refer to the barging incidents 94' + 97', and the "cheat" allogations in 94' and 2000 + 2001 with the TC.
Also whatever he may do at Ferrari, he is to give his no2 driver a lot of credit for his success. I can't see how MS can feel proud of his achievements, as to me his WDC's seem very hollow, with regard to how he has won them (ie been "gifted" races by his no2).

Although Damon Hill wasn't the great driver everyone hoped for, at least he won his WDC fair and square, without any help from his team-mate.

[Inigo Montoya]

Originally posted by Sodemo
I am NOT an MS fan, yet I don't deny that the guy has talent.

I just think that in my eyes, no matter what his achievements may be, there will always be a cloud of distrust which hovers over MS, which taints whatever records he has reached.

I refer to the barging incidents 94' + 97', and the "cheat" allogations in 94' and 2000 + 2001 with the TC.
Also whatever he may do at Ferrari, he is to give his no2 driver a lot of credit for his success. I can't see how MS can feel proud of his achievements, as to me his WDC's seem very hollow, with regard to how he has won them (ie been "gifted" races by his no2).

Although Damon Hill wasn't the great driver everyone hoped for, at least he won his WDC fair and square, without any help from his team-mate.

Can you say flame-bait?

[Bononi]

z2252314 welcome ! That's an easy nick to remember...

Sounds like a bar code for something... never mind.

Well the oldies had expressed theirselves, EERO, R girl, Alan, Jersound... altough I am missing others ones... and the not-so-newbies did too. So what else to say ?

Get yourself a seat and start pushing the right pedal... once you're in, you see how worth is being here...

(PS : Did R Girl warned about AMoffat ? And Tristan did you advised about some Valve Bounce ? And did Alan warned you, in case of being female, about a 007 dude ? And did R Girl warned you abput a Waffle going nuts ?)

[Ray Bell]

Originally posted by z2252314
...Is this an anti-Schumi website? I only ask because there tends to be a lot of cynical comments towards him. ...Schumacher- the guy doesnt have a weakness. He nearly has Senna's speed over a lap, and perhaps the best race craft of all time. As a team boss, if you want somebody to win a race, then he is your man.

The name's fine, there are some wierd ones around anyway... but as for your question, you will find that it's just that the supporters of other drivers find it more necessary to be vocal... Schumacher is almost universally recognised as the best there is at the moment, don't worry about that.

Maybe it's just that many don't want to see him dominating for too long...

And welcome to the board...

[Liz]

Welcome aboard, Z-man.

I dislike TGF and I'm a long-time fan of the Two Red Cars and of course of St. Gilles who will always epitomize Ferrari to me. Enzo would not approve of the Affirmative Action Program at Ferrari and he would probably kick Rubens up the backside for allowing it to go on, as well as whoever wrote the Affirmative Action Contract that TGF has signed.

But although I dislike him as a man and as a driver, I do admit he's the best of a very weak field, for the moment, and cynically concede that if he can cheat his way to 4 WDCs, it's certainly easier that way than winning them outright as Prost had to do, and he can count on a lot of people who are too young to know the difference supporting his right to win at all costs.

Okay, that's enough of that. Welcome to the forum and do try some of our other forums too - we're a great bunch and our local is yours too.