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1 Feb 2007, 23:15 (Ref:1831492) | #1 | ||
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2007 Team Mate Predictions !!! (MERGED)
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R.Kelly & Tander - Tander will win more but interms of speed pretty even. Holden Racing Team Skaife & T.Kelly - if Skaife can have more of a consistant year than it will be very even. Tasman Motorsport Murphy & J.Richards - even at the start but Murphy at the end of the year. Stone Brothers Racing Ingall & Courtney - Courtney will be the quicker but Ingall will be more consistant. Ford Performance Racing Winterbottom & S.Richards - Winterbottom convinsingly. Jack Daniel's Racing Price & Perkins - Price will be the slightly quicker of the 2 getting home in front slightly. WPS Racing Wilson and Bargwana - one day Wilson one day Bargwana. Supercheap Auto Racing McConville & Dumbrell - McConville most of the time. Team BOC B.Jones & A.Jones - even stevens. Dick Johnson Racing Johnson & Davison - Davison convinsingly. Britek Motorsport Bright & Gurr - Bright by a mile. Garry Rogers Motorsport Canto & Holdsworth - Canto most of the time. Team Sirromet Wines Coulthard & Morris - Coulthard but will he keep his ride if he beats the boss. TeamVodafone Lowndes & Whincup - Lowndes but Whincup might pull another Adelaide surprise. note: 2 car teams only |
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2 Feb 2007, 07:25 (Ref:1831608) | #2 | ||
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Some info just posted on Nine MSN for us Ford fans.......
Holden fans 'set to defect to Ford' Friday Feb 2 13:23 AEDT Rising star Mark Winterbottom expects a horde of Holden fans will defect to Ford in the fallout from the controversial end to last year's V8 Supercar championship. Craig Lowndes was denied a chance to win his first V8 Supercar title since 1999 because of a crash with Holden's Rick Kelly in the final race of the season at Phillip Island in December. Lowndes insists he doesn't bear a grudge against Kelly, despite Ford supporters believing the Holden drivers worked together against Lowndes, and that Kelly deliberately took him out. The race stewards dismissed a protest by Lowndes' Triple Eight Racing team against Kelly, allowing the Mildura youngster to claim his crown 24 hours after the season finale. "I think Rick won the championship but Craig won the fans (over)," said Winterbottom, who finished third in the 2006 championship race. "There's more rivalry from the fans who came to the track and saw what happened. "They're more bitter about it than Craig is because he's a professional and he's used to ups and downs. "I think a few Holden fans might come to Ford after seeing what happened, going off feedback from what people have said. "It'll be interesting to see what they think of it because ultimately they decide what happens in our sport and if they think it's wrong and they come to Ford, it'll be good for us." Winterbottom, 25, and his new Ford Performance Racing (FPR) teammate Steve Richards, 34, will spend the next week on the Gold Coast sweating it out in a gruelling pre-season fitness camp. They will get the first opportunity to race under the sport's new points system at the Clipsal 500 in Adelaide starting on March 1. Kelly clinched his first V8 Supercar championship without winning any of the 13 rounds while runner-up Lowndes took out four, including an emotional Bathurst 1000 triumph, under a system that rewards mediocrity. Dual Bathurst winner Richards fears the new points system will scupper the chances of more thrilling battles for the championship, with Lowndes pipped at the post last year and by Russell Ingall in 2005. "I'm of the opinion that the racing has been fantastic for three years," said Richards, who replaces Jason Bright at FPR this year. "At the end of the day if you've got something good why go and change it? "The reason it's been so good is that for the last two years it's come down to the last race of the championship. "My only fear, I suppose, is that I hope we don't get down to the last round of the championship and it was decided two races ago because that's not a good situation to be in." Winterbottom said he would adopt the same racing tactics as any other year despite the introduction of MotoGP-style points scale, rewarding drivers who pick off positions in races. There is also a 12-point difference between first and second - compared to just four last year - with positions down to 15th receiving points. "Last year our car was always within the top five so the points system will help us," Winterbottom said. "I'm happy with the way they've structured it but at the same time it can turn around and bite you on the backside if you have a DNF." ©AAP 2007 |
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I'll just say all Holdens to beat Fords and reserve judgement until the Orion starts racing in a couple of years. |
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2 Feb 2007, 16:25 (Ref:1832001) | #4 | |
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2 big errors already....
well 3 if you count PWR's average spelling!!! Price will THUMP Jack Jnr will hold his own with Davo |
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I presume this is about championship points at season's end?
Toll HSV Dealer Team R.Kelly & Tander - Mr Tander has the speed to blow everyone off... if he is allowed to... and they seem to prep cars over here more reliably than their HRT bretheren... Mr Tander over Mr C.Bandicoot Holden Racing Team Skaife & T.Kelly - If its true that Mr Skaife has already wrecked his first VE, I think Mr Kelly is the shot here Tasman Motorsport Murphy & J.Richards - Each will go ballistic at different tracks, both likely to finish the season outside the top 10... Murf over Richards only because of the "good gear" factor Stone Brothers Racing Ingall & Courtney - Mr Courtney should top 10 the car... Mr Ingall will probably finish top 15... and possibly even decide to retire at season's end Ford Performance Racing Winterbottom & S.Richards - Both drivers have a happy knack for accumulating points. Very even, but Frosty may come out on top Jack Daniel's Racing Price & Perkins - This will be a see saw battle... outside the top 15 most of the time.. I actually think Mr Perkins Jr will get the upper hand eventually WPS Racing Wilson and Bargwanna - Mr Wilson to make the qualifying headlines, Mr Bargwanna to collect the points... Supercheap Auto Racing McConville & Dumbrell - Mr Dumbrell will come of age and finish more regularly than he has in the past, ahead of his accumulating teammate. Not likely either car will finish the year in the top 10 Team BOC B.Jones & A.Jones - Mr A.Jones will finish on top... only if the spark from the development series championship reappears... and this will be easy, probably at the bottom end of the top 15 Jim Beam/Dick Johnson Racing Johnson & Davison - Mr Davison to have brilliant days, just not all the time.. Mr Johnson likely to accumulate more points than his teammate, outside the top 10 Britek Motorsport Bright & Gurr - One is engineered by a pro, the other a rally codriver... hmmm.. plus the gear has always been different between the #25 and #26 cars... Mr Bright in a canter... no.. not a Mitsubishi Garry Rogers Motorsport Canto & Holdsworth - Mr Canto can accumulate points very well, and sometimes put his unfancied car into better positions than it deserves. But that was the old VZ... who knows what the VE will do. I suspect if VE stays reliable Mr Canto will come out on top... if not, Mr Holdsworth wont be far away to take up the slack Team Sirromet Wines Coulthard & Morris - Another VE/VZ team... the VZ is a good car, with better engines, its reliability should see it beating the untried VE. But I expect this VE to be a rocket at some rounds. Mr Coulthard over Mr Morris... TeamVodafone/888 Lowndes & Whincup - Mr Lowndes is the likely winner here, Mr Whincup will not always get the exact same equipment/engineering support. |
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3 Feb 2007, 07:00 (Ref:1832374) | #6 | ||
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As normal GTR I think you have hit the nail correctly on the head with the hammer. And it is good that you have finally realize what spoilt kid real name is CRASH BANDICOOT.
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and i won't turn this into another how good or how crap is Jnr thread buti will say, it has been said every year jnr will go good and he hasn't, i believe he is a good steerer but has had no presure to perform i believe if daddy gave him a bit of presure of losing his seat he would perform alot better. and who give a rats ass about my spelling you can still read it, so does it really matter. Quote:
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3 Feb 2007, 20:45 (Ref:1832801) | #8 | ||
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Related to some observations within this thread, I was on an interview panel a few years back.
We were "shortlisting" candidates and one of the essential selection criteria was " ... writing and communications skills of a high order". One bloke who thought he was a "shoe in" was denied first round. He tackled me later about not getting an interview. I said that he denied because he had spelling errors in the Application so the panel "threw it out" He admitted that he had not taken but a few minutes to use "spell check" and it cost him "big time". So the old spelling tests when we were young were so important when we were getting our early "edjucashon" Mike |
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4 Feb 2007, 04:23 (Ref:1832967) | #9 | ||
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Who cares? is everyone really that bored that you have to make up stupid topics about who's gonna beat who in the team... gosh make it something worthwhile to talk about...
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4 Feb 2007, 04:40 (Ref:1832972) | #10 | ||
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Gee I am glad you are so intelligent there angel.... like you havent made ridiculous statements!!!!
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Its not a strange thing to do here... teammate versus teammate is also interesting... if it brings new light into how the forumdwellers think some drivers will go, then whats wrong with that? |
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5 Feb 2007, 03:03 (Ref:1833641) | #14 | ||
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Toll HSV Dealer Team
R.Kelly & Tander - Garth.... Speed and Class, Setup ability. Rick will struggle with the new points system, and will probably lose a few points from outbursts or punts. Holden Racing Team Skaife & T.Kelly - As I've said, if the VE suits Mark's style of driving, then there's no questions. I think Mark has definitely stuggled with the wishbone front end, however. Tasman Motorsport Murphy & J.Richards - 50/50. Murph will take it if he's motivated, however! Stone Brothers Racing Ingall & Courtney - James came on leaps and bounds now. I'd still prefer to see him in a RBR F1 car with Mark Webber, which is where he would be no, undoubtedly, if they didn't blame him for the road car rollover. James by a pooftenth! Ford Performance Racing Winterbottom & S.Richards -Richo will more than likely be exposed this year for the "good but no great" driver he is. Frosty got the huge confidence booster he needed, let's just hope the engines hold up this year! Jack Daniel's Racing Price & Perkins - Very even, but shane will come out on top - this year. WPS Racing Wilson and Bargwanna -Bargs if they have good machinery... Wilson is a good hand, however. Supercheap Auto Racing McConville & Dumbrell - If they have a good VE, McConville will show his potential. Dumbrell may shine in a new team, but not beat Cam. Team BOC B.Jones & A.Jones - This could be the year Andrew comes out and shines, and let's face it, if he doesn't, its nearly the end of the line. Jim Beam/Dick Johnson Racing Johnson & Davison - Davo will absolutely murder Junior this year I feel. He was coming home fantastically last year, and if they do have some 888 parts, game over! In saying that, he better not beat Junior too much or he might..... Britek Motorsport Bright & Gurr - Brighty...any questions? I also hope he still gets a chance to drive some nice Prodrive GT cars.... Only time will tell Garry Rogers Motorsport Canto & Holdsworth - The VE driver if it's on strong, the VZ driver if it's not. Team Sirromet Wines Coulthard & Morris - Fabian is a great driver. I hope he gets the chance to show this. Fabian if they don't play shenanigans. TeamVodafone/888 Lowndes & Whincup - Motivated and ready to claim back his title after 8 years. Craig, no questions, but I think it'll be alot more even this year. |
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I just wonder if there are any drivers/teams that will end the season on 0 points, given they only get allocated halfway down this year? I'm reading a lot of 'top 20...bottom 25...etc' but could the positions finish at, say, p25 and then every car thereafter be equal 26th on zero???
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Is it really that hard to see that Kelly, Ingall etc were driving to the points system? If they were smart enough to figure out the points system in the past, that won't change.
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* Outburst over Cam McConville passing him "under yellow" when he was actually wrong. * Puts Jason Bright into the wall, and all he can talk about is runing Holdens chances in th championship - did he once in the interviw actually ask how Jason was? (bit worrying when you are more concerned about your employer's material income than your co-worker within a group....) * Numerous "spoilt brat" type comments when interviewed. I REALLY hope that this year wasnt an act, and that he has his head together now. He drove alot more calmly and did pit alot less crap out (disregarding that end of year "press release") of his mouth. Now, I hope that clears my comments up. NO Phillip Island replies, PLEASE! |
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Skaife CONVINCINGLY Murf (when he is happy) EVEN Frosty EASILY Jack Bargs Cam EASILY Who knows - both slow EVEN Bright BY A COUNTRY MILE EVEN Coulthard EASILY Lowndes CONVINCINGLY |
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I think Andrew Jones didn't manage to break into the top 15 at any race (but I could be wrong)
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Almost agree there Deeks, just a few diffs.
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Imagine going to your sponsors at the end of 07 and asking for more money to perform better in 08 and having nothing to sell. Thesponsor asks how 07 whent and u say great but we scored no points in the championship, not a one. This is the original reason points whent all the way down to last in the first place. To make it easier to sell to sponsors.
Th old system made ordinary teams look half good. Will be interesting to see who is where at years end. Steve Johnson will have to have a much more improved year to break the 10 now!!!!!! |
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you have picked up what others have missed In an attempt to please the media V8Supercars have taken away the measurement of performance of the teams that finish after 15th . Surely they can devise a ranking system like Golf or Tennis if they are serious about their sport ever being accepted as a world series . Or why not just copy NASCAR |
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