British F3 Silverstone

Richard B · 13 Aug 2010, 19:31 (Ref:2744294)

Bit late in starting the thread seeing as the 1st race is tomorrow!
Timetable here:
http://www.silverstone.co.uk/events/...hampionships1/

strider · 13 Aug 2010, 20:49 (Ref:2744326)

Practice report and times.

The weather forecast seems to be for showers, so it could be hit and miss.

Preview.

strider · 14 Aug 2010, 13:57 (Ref:2744523)

Qualifying was held on a damp but drying track and the top 19 drivers set their best time on their last lap.

Almost inevitably Jean-Eric Vergne dominated and took pole for Races 1 (this afternoon) and 3.

Report here. Times:

Code:

Race one grid:

Pos  Driver                Team                 Car  Time       Gap
 1.  Jean-Eric Vergne      Carlin               D/V  1m47.869s
 2.  Lucas Foresti         Carlin               D/V  1m48.530s  + 0.661s
 3.  Rupert Svendsen-Cook  Carlin               D/V  1m48.609s  + 0.740s
 4.  James Calado          Carlin               D/V  1m48.823s  + 0.954s
 5.  Adriano Buzaid        Carlin               D/V  1m48.910s  + 1.041s
 6.  Oli Webb              Fortec               D/M  1m49.558s  + 1.689s
 7.  Felipe Nasr           Raikkonen Robertson  D/M  1m50.020s  + 2.151s
 8.  Carlos Huertas        Raikkonen Robertson  D/M  1m50.403s  + 2.534s
 9.  Daisuke Nakajima      Raikkonen Robertson  D/M  1m50.556s  + 2.687s
10.  William Buller        Hitech               D/V  1m50.649s  + 2.780s
11.  Alex Brundle          T-Sport              D/V  1m50.689s  + 2.820s
12.  Menasheh Idafar       T-Sport              D/H  1m50.738s  + 2.869s
13.  Gabriel Dias          Hitech               D/V  1m50.816s  + 2.947s
14.  Carlos Munoz          Mucke                D/M  1m51.157s  + 3.288s
15.  Pietro Fantin         Hitech               D/V  1m51.302s  + 3.433s
16.  Daniel McKenzie       Fortec               D/M  1m51.452s  + 3.583s
17.  Hywel Lloyd           CF/Manor             D/M  1m51.521s  + 3.652s
18.  Jay Bridger           Litespeed            D/M  1m51.666s  + 3.797s
19.  James Cole            T-Sport              D/H  1m53.286s  + 5.417s
20.  Maxim Snegirev        Fortec               D/M  1m53.724s  + 5.855s
21.  Adderly Fong          Sino Vision          D/M  1m54.287s  + 6.418s
22.  Jazeman Jaafar        Carlin               D/V  1m56.718s  + 8.849s
23.  Juan Carlos Sistos    West-Tec             D/H  1m58.006s  + 10.137s
24.  Yann Cunha            Manor                D/M  1m59.756s  + 11.887s

Code:

Race three grid:

Pos  Driver                Team                 Car  Time       Gap
 1.  Jean-Eric Vergne      Carlin               D/V  1m45.944s
 2.  Adriano Buzaid        Carlin               D/V  1m47.114s  + 1.170s
 3.  James Calado          Carlin               D/V  1m47.368s  + 1.424s
 4.  Oli Webb              Fortec               D/M  1m47.770s  + 1.826s
 5.  Rupert Svendsen-Cook  Carlin               D/V  1m47.936s  + 1.992s
 6.  Lucas Foresti         Carlin               D/V  1m48.100s  + 2.156s
 7.  Alex Brundle          T-Sport              D/V  1m48.836s  + 2.892s
 8.  William Buller        Hitech               D/V  1m48.936s  + 2.992s
 9.  Gabriel Dias          Hitech               D/V  1m49.218s  + 3.274s
10.  Daisuke Nakajima      Raikkonen Robertson  D/M  1m49.511s  + 3.567s
11.  Daniel McKenzie       Fortec               D/M  1m49.543s  + 3.599s
12.  Menasheh Idafar       T-Sport              D/H  1m49.582s  + 3.638s
13.  Carlos Munoz          Mucke                D/M  1m49.672s  + 3.728s
14.  Jay Bridger           Litespeed            D/M  1m49.867s  + 3.923s
15.  Felipe Nasr           Raikkonen Robertson  D/M  1m49.900s  + 3.956s
16.  Pietro Fantin         Hitech               D/V  1m49.915s  + 3.971s
17.  Carlos Huertas        Raikkonen Robertson  D/M  1m50.275s  + 4.331s
18.  Hywel Lloyd           CF/Manor             D/M  1m50.592s  + 4.648s
19.  James Cole            T-Sport              D/H  1m51.167s  + 5.223s
20.  Maxim Snegirev        Fortec               D/M  1m51.390s  + 5.446s
21.  Adderly Fong          Sino Vision          D/M  1m52.810s  + 6.866s
22.  Juan Carlos Sistos    West-Tec             D/H  1m54.722s  + 8.778s
23.  Jazeman Jaafar        Carlin               D/V  1m56.607s  + 10.663s
24.  Yann Cunha            Manor                D/M  1m58.509s  + 12.565s

Good to see 24 cars out there, even if they aren't all on the pace.

Buller must have been penalised, because the report says he was 2nd fastest.

strider · 14 Aug 2010, 15:33 (Ref:2744548)

Buller was penalised. Silly mistake by the team as that rule has been around forever.

Calado won race 1 from Vergne in changeable conditions. More later. Webb was 9th, so lost a lot of ground.

dank · 14 Aug 2010, 17:07 (Ref:2744566)

So, what does Vergne need to do tomorrow to clinch the title - or, is this no longer possible?

strider · 14 Aug 2010, 18:26 (Ref:2744585)

He needs to be 108 points ahead of Calado (or Webb) at the end of the day. At the moment he's slipped back to 101, but it is still possible.

Race 1 report. The results are there too, but I'll add them here for convenience.

Code:

Pos  Driver                Team                 Car     Time/Gap
 1.  James Calado          Carlin               D/V   30m48.609s
 2.  Jean-Eric Vergne      Carlin               D/V     + 7.193s
 3.  Lucas Foresti         Carlin               D/V    + 21.568s
 4.  Adriano Buzaid        Carlin               D/V    + 22.750s
 5.  Felipe Nasr           Raikkonen Robertson  D/M    + 23.525s
 6.  Rupert Svendsen-Cook  Carlin               D/V    + 32.643s
 7.  Carlos Huertas        Raikkonen Robertson  D/M    + 33.675s
 8.  Daniel McKenzie       Fortec               D/M    + 34.528s
 9.  Oli Webb              Fortec               D/M    + 41.877s
10.  Daisuke Nakajima      Raikkonen Robertson  D/M  + 1m11.873s
11.  Gabriel Dias          Hitech               D/V  + 1m19.135s
12.  Jazeman Jaafar        Carlin               D/V  + 1m46.133s
13.  Maxim Snegirev        Fortec               D/M  + 1m48.823s
14.  Hywel Lloyd           CF/Manor             D/M  + 1m52.678s
15.  Carlos Munoz          Mucke                D/M  + 1m54.233s
16.  Alex Brundle          T-Sport              D/V  + 1m55.120s
17.  Juan Carlos Sistos    West-Tec             D/H      + 1 lap
18.  Jay Bridger           Litespeed            D/M      + 1 lap
19.  James Cole            T-Sport              D/H      + 1 lap
20.  Yann Cunha            Manor                D/M      + 1 lap
21.  Menasheh Idafar       T-Sport              D/H      + 1 lap

Retirements:

     William Buller        Hitech               D/V      15 laps
     Adderly Fong          Sino Vision          D/M       3 laps
     Pietro Fantin         Hitech               D/V       3 laps

Rf1 Fan · 15 Aug 2010, 22:05 (Ref:2744956)

Vergne has won the title.

strider · 16 Aug 2010, 13:21 (Ref:2745211)

He has indeed. Yesterday didn't see the most exciting racing, but Silverstone never does unless the weather comes into play as it did on Saturday. Amazingly it was bright and sunny yesterday.

Race 2 report and result:

Code:

Pos  Driver                Team                 Car     Time/Gap
 1.  Adriano Buzaid        Carlin               D/V   19m08.094s
 2.  Carlos Huertas        Raikkonen Robertson  D/M     + 2.690s
 3.  Jean-Eric Vergne      Carlin               D/V     + 3.453s
 4.  Felipe Nasr           Raikkonen Robertson  D/M     + 4.541s
 5.  James Calado          Carlin               D/V     + 6.205s
 6.  Rupert Svendsen-Cook  Carlin               D/V    + 14.767s
 7.  Oliver Webb           Fortec               D/M    + 15.272s
 8.  Jazeman Jaafar        Carlin               D/V    + 15.786s
 9.  Hywel Lloyd           CF/Manor             D/M    + 17.512s
10.  Daniel McKenzie       Fortec               D/M    + 19.210s
11.  Carlos Munoz          Mucke                D/M    + 21.189s
12.  Lucas Foresti         Carlin               D/V    + 25.110s
13.  William Buller        Hitech               D/V    + 30.942s
14.  Gabriel Dias          Hitech               D/V    + 31.978s
15.  Maxim Snegirev        Fortec               D/M    + 32.475s
16.  James Cole            T-Sport              D/H    + 34.121s
17.  Menasheh Idafar       T-Sport              D/H    + 34.897s
18.  Alex Brundle          T-Sport              D/V    + 35.614s
19.  Daisuke Nakajima      Raikkonen Robertson  D/M    + 36.040s
20.  Jay Bridger           Litespeed            D/M    + 40.281s
21.  Pietro Fantin         Hitech               D/V    + 50.043s
22.  Yann Cunha            Manor                D/M    + 52.226s
23.  Juan Carlos Sistos    West-Tec             D/H  + 1m12.774s
24.  Adderly Fong          Sino Vision          D/M     + 3 laps

It was good that Adriano Buzaid broke the pattern and took a win in this this race. That's the idea behind the semi-reversed grid and they threw in the 'pt-stops' as an additional feature. They all went smoothly and personally I would like to have seen them in the feature race instead.

strider · 16 Aug 2010, 13:33 (Ref:2745217)

As it was, the feature race was all about Jean-Eric Vergne. Having secured pole on Saturday, he led from start to finish and set a new lap record on the way. It was about as convincing a way of securing the title as you could wish for. The gap to Buzaid would have been greater, but Vergne's engine cover was slightly loose. Adriano picked up the Sunoco Driver of the Day Award for his best weekend of the season.

Report and results:

Code:

Pos  Driver                Team                 Car     Time/Gap
 1.  Jean-Eric Vergne      Carlin               D/V   41m01.289s
 2.  Adriano Buzaid        Carlin               D/V     + 1.212s
 3.  Oli Webb              Fortec               D/M     + 6.234s
 4.  James Calado          Carlin               D/V     + 7.280s
 5.  Lucas Foresti         Carlin               D/V    + 20.222s
 6.  Rupert Svendsen-Cook  Carlin               D/V    + 24.772s
 7.  Gabriel Dias          Hitech               D/V    + 25.895s
 8.  Alex Brundle          T-Sport              D/V    + 29.188s
 9   William Buller        Hitech               D/V    + 29.981s
10.  Daniel McKenzie       Fortec               D/M    + 30.678s
11.  Daisuke Nakajima      Raikkonen Robertson  D/M    + 32.643s
12.  Felipe Nasr           Raikkonen Robertson  D/M    + 34.385s
13.  Jazeman Jaafar        Carlin               D/V    + 35.048s
14.  Menasheh Idafar       T-Sport              D/H    + 35.832s
15.  Hywel Lloyd           CF/Manor             D/M    + 37.296s
16.  Jay Bridger           Litespeed            D/M    + 46.232s
17.  Carlos Huertas        Raikkonen Robertson  D/M    + 49.601s
18   Adderly Fong          Sino Vision          D/M    + 49.890s
19.  Carlos Munoz          Mucke                D/M    + 52.482s
20.  James Cole            T-Sport              D/H  + 1'06.183s
21.  Juan Carlos Sistos    West-Tec             D/H  + 1'18.599s
22.  Yann Cunha            Manor                D/M  + 1'19.141s
23.  Pietro Fantin         Hitech               D/V  + 1'21.452s

Retirements:

     Maxim Snegirev        Fortec               D/M       0 laps

In the battle for second place and the honour of being the leading British driver James Calado now has 230 points and Oli Webb 213.

There are just two more meetings, Snetterton at the end of the month and Brands Hatch on September 25/26, but that's still six races.

gt_torque · 16 Aug 2010, 15:49 (Ref:2745277)

JEV is a great guy and a worthy champ. Seeing Webb, Mckenzie, Calado and Svendsen-Cook develop this year has been brilliant and they've all improved at varying levels.

It was really nice to see Buzz on the top step again too. Following his move from T-Sport there was quite a bit of pressure on the lad, but he kept his head together and I think you'll see him pick up a couple more wins before the year is out.

dank · 16 Aug 2010, 17:08 (Ref:2745343)

Both races yesterday were fairly dull. In fact, all the racing I saw yesterday was quite boring - I even fell asleep for a good ten minutes during the British GT race!

I called Vergne to be this year's British F3 before the first round at Oulton Park. Not the most difficult prediction, as the Carlin-Red Bull combination seems to produce the top drivers.

He's had a stellar season, but I'm undecided if the rest of the field were much cop this year. Last year when Ricciardo clinched the title, there wasn't really anyone who could stop him. This year there was, er, Calado and Webb, perhaps?

strider · 16 Aug 2010, 17:23 (Ref:2745359)

To me it's it's not hugely interesting, because there's no comparison in terms of the number of races per season, but I wonder if Jean-Eric will score the most wins in any one season before this one's over. Jan Magnussen holds the record from way back in 1994 at 14, I think. I shall have to check.

MikeHoyer · 16 Aug 2010, 18:26 (Ref:2745390)

Quote:

Originally Posted by dank

Both races yesterday were fairly dull. In fact, all the racing I saw yesterday was quite boring

I enjoyed the Sprint race, the pit stops added some drama, and there was a lot of battling where I was (Club). However I do agree that the pit stops should be part of the 40 minute race.

cleanup · 16 Aug 2010, 19:30 (Ref:2745414)

Quote:

Originally Posted by dank

Both races yesterday were fairly dull. In fact, all the racing I saw yesterday was quite boring - I even fell asleep for a good ten minutes during the British GT race!

I called Vergne to be this year's British F3 before the first round at Oulton Park. Not the most difficult prediction, as the Carlin-Red Bull combination seems to produce the top drivers.

He's had a stellar season, but I'm undecided if the rest of the field were much cop this year. Last year when Ricciardo clinched the title, there wasn't really anyone who could stop him. This year there was, er, Calado and Webb, perhaps?

Vergne is a well deserved champion, very consistant throughout but it has been easy for him. Always was going to be with Carlin Red Bull combination, all others, irrespective of talent were always competing for second before the season started. Like you, I use the GT racing to catch up on sleep. Yes the F3 feature race was boring but the first race on Saturday was fantastic. Seeing Calado destroy Vergne was amazing in such bad conditions,best race of the year and well awaited first real showdown between them with equal cars due to conditions. Great to see Buzaid on top again, far better than Webb when he is on it, lets hope he can do more of the same and maybe challenge Webb and Calado for second.Shame Nasr isnt quite ready, hope he does F3 again, one to watch.

peebee2 · 16 Aug 2010, 20:14 (Ref:2745435)

Having been to watch at the weekend Sunday was quite boring racing, although the pit stop race was quite exciting as it unfolded.

Saturday was better, although the weather played a hand in that.

Good to see another face in National Class, and a new winner at that. A brave decision for him to stay out on slicks in the wet that paid off for him to win.

Deemun · 16 Aug 2010, 21:40 (Ref:2745526)

Quote:

Originally Posted by peebee2

Having been to watch at the weekend Sunday was quite boring racing, although the pit stop race was quite exciting as it unfolded.

Saturday was better, although the weather played a hand in that.

Good to see another face in National Class, and a new winner at that. A brave decision for him to stay out on slicks in the wet that paid off for him to win.

I for one enjoyed all the racing at the weekend. Shame that more of the cspectators didn't watch the support races where there were some excellent battles such as in the MX5's and especially the Formula Fords. No doubt we will be seeing one or two of the FF guys in F3 next season. Would be good to see Malvern and Pye moving up. Both have impressed me a lot this year.

MKII · 17 Aug 2010, 18:53 (Ref:2746167)

Quote:

Originally Posted by strider

To me it's it's not hugely interesting, because there's no comparison in terms of the number of races per season, but I wonder if Jean-Eric will score the most wins in any one season before this one's over. Jan Magnussen holds the record from way back in 1994 at 14, I think. I shall have to check.

He certainly does, 14 of 18. As you said back in 94 with PSR.

strider · 17 Aug 2010, 20:09 (Ref:2746218)

Quote:

Originally Posted by MKII

He certainly does, 14 of 18. As you said back in 94 with PSR.

Thanks for saving me doing the research!

If that's right, 14 wins from 18 is such a high percentage that it doesn't really matter how many more races JEV wins, he won't be able to match that.

EastonNeston · 17 Aug 2010, 20:50 (Ref:2746254)

I remember Dario, Vincent Radermaker and Riccardo Rossett, at Snett, were two of the other race winners that season.

Jan had a 77.77% win rate that season, i doubt if that will ever be matched, if anyone does he'll be good!

strider · 18 Aug 2010, 00:39 (Ref:2746340)

Poor Dario in the same team was slaughtered, but I think you could say he's come out of it pretty well since.

It was the first year BF3 ran double races. The grid for the first race was set by qualifying as usual, but the grid for the second race was based on the results of the first race. A bad idea, because it meant that if you came out of the first race badly you were stuffed for the second race as well. It was changed very quickly for the next season.

**bella** · 18 Aug 2010, 10:26 (Ref:2746484)

i suppose it's a fair question - if you were red bull would you let vergne finish the season or perhaps draft in another driver to get some f3 experience since he's doing formula renault 3.5..?

strider · 18 Aug 2010, 11:21 (Ref:2746507)

It might suit Carlin if they did. Then Calado and Webb could battle it out for the runner-up spot. But with Red Bull you never know what they're going to do until it happens.

EastonNeston · 18 Aug 2010, 22:52 (Ref:2746862)

Was Gareth Rees the other winner in 94? He was usuallyh on the podium in his ADR car.

Interestingly a current F1 team principal was driving for Fortec that season.

strider · 19 Aug 2010, 10:36 (Ref:2747053)

I'm not sure if Gareth won in BF3, but he did win the Marlboro Masters for ADR, which was a real shot in the arm.

Would the team principal be Christian Horner? There's a British F3 page on Facebook and a while ago someone posted a photo from that year and after a while just about everyone in it was named, including Christian. They were all huddled around watching a telly and Christian was sitting down and viewed from behind looked like a 12-year-old schoolboy!

Go_For_Pole · 19 Aug 2010, 11:19 (Ref:2747076)

The racing career of Gareth Rees

1994 Formula 3 Britain
Position: 3 (171 points)
18 races. 0 wins. 0 pole positions. 8 podiums. 1 fastest lap.

Team: Alan Docking Racing
Car: Dallara 394 (Mugen Honda)

Race winners in 1994: Magnussen 14, Radermecker 2, Dario & Rosset 1. It also quite funny to see how many F1 people are in the bottom of the points table

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