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Old 2 Feb 2001, 05:41 (Ref:61852)   #1
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Looks cool dont it?
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Old 2 Feb 2001, 07:24 (Ref:61860)   #2
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Looks strange from the front. But, I guess, to any Ferrari, fan, it looks beautiful!
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Old 2 Feb 2001, 16:21 (Ref:61946)   #3
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Looks like a taxi with a bent fender(bumper)
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Old 2 Feb 2001, 22:06 (Ref:62045)   #4
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Hmmmm, bet that nose ain't got a 5mm tolerance, not that the maFIA would find anything wrong with it.
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Old 2 Feb 2001, 22:35 (Ref:62054)   #5
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I drove past the Porsche showroom the other day and there is a new grey car there with a double rear spoiler - looks fantastic!!
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Old 3 Feb 2001, 01:49 (Ref:62095)   #6
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It doesn't seem to comply with the rules .. nor do I guess the rulers are wrong in Maranello, so it will be kind of a development thing or something like that. 25 cm out of the middleline of the car the front wing must have 10 cm clearance to the reference plane. That's why all the other teams run a -v-shaped wing. The 10 cm high sides come down too soon, sooner than 25 cm from the center, it seems. Compare that coming-down-from-10-to-5 cm tot the new Benetton wing where those limits are easily visible and you'll see there's something not right.

Looks good though, good shape and nice full-width flap.
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Old 3 Feb 2001, 02:13 (Ref:62099)   #7
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The photo was taken with a telephoto lens and from slightly above. I really do not know how much parallax error has been created by hte tele lens, so it is not possible to tell whether this is illegal and if so by how much. Only a full front on shot about 6 inches above the ground will give you that sort of information. Howevr, I think that Ferrari would be testing a legal wing at this critical stage before the first race - that's my opinion. I saw the car on TV the other day and it looked terrific. Is there a small clear windscreen?? I wasn't sure.
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Old 4 Feb 2001, 03:26 (Ref:62343)   #8
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You're probably right, Valve Bounce. It just looked kinda weird.
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Old 4 Feb 2001, 14:39 (Ref:62387)   #9
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I think that the wing looks real good. It is totally different from the one they used for the presentation. It seems that teams are not showing the complete car for the presentations lately, I guess for trade secrets. Anyway, this contoured front wing doesn't make the nose look so low like it did in the presentation. To me, it sort of looks like Salvador Dali designed it.
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Old 4 Feb 2001, 19:19 (Ref:62433)   #10
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Have you seen the wing on the Williams. Yuk! It's just too high for my liking, higher than the middle of the car.
My belief is that the front of car should be lower than the middle.
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Old 4 Feb 2001, 19:26 (Ref:62436)   #11
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To me, it sort of looks like Salvador Dali designed it.
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True ValveB...the angle aint ground-level enuff to see if it complies with the FIA...but it sure does comply with the overall aesthetics

Im beginning to like the F2001 more and more...
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Old 5 Feb 2001, 08:35 (Ref:62536)   #12
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aaah there.....that shud be within the rules!
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Old 5 Feb 2001, 09:27 (Ref:62545)   #13
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It looks great. There is still some parallax in the photo so that wing is still higher than it appears in the photo. I cannot see any F1 team testing a wing that does not comply - the information gleaned this way would not only be useless, but it would be misleading because that wing affects the stability of the car.
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Old 5 Feb 2001, 09:30 (Ref:62546)   #14
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Still looks weird, downforce.
Compare your picture with one from the B201 for instance:




Now focus on the area where the B201 front wing struts are attached to the front wing and the wing area drops down - conform the rules - form 10 cm to 5 cm ref. plane clearance. Now look at the Ferrari 'smile' and doesn't it seem as if the point at which the 10 cm high sidepart bows down is much earlier than the Benetton? It certainly looks to me as it does. Rules stipulate the wing may come down to 5 cm clearance within 25 cm of the centerline. The 2001 doesn't seem to be bending down from the 25 cm mark, even from a picture. That kinda explains why we haven't seen such a 'soft' curved solution from any other team. Those all featured hard edged V- or U-shapes. Strange stuff, Watson ...
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Old 6 Feb 2001, 05:06 (Ref:62809)   #15
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DinoIV....I see what u mean...but could it be that the Ferrari 'smile' never reaches the 5cm ref plane clearance?

It looks like more than 5 to me. If the B201 is 5 then the F2001 looks like its 7!!!

Is that out of the rules too?

I cant believe rory would err so obviously
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Old 6 Feb 2001, 13:39 (Ref:62862)   #16
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Neither do I, downforce

You could be right. It also could be a misinterpretation because the Ferrari front-wing is quite narrow compared to the others. Narrower but with very wide wing-endplates. Look at the Benneton and compare its actual wing width (judging form the grooves it covers on the front-tyre) with the Ferrari's and compare the two wingendplates.

Here's a pic wich explains the 2000 to 2001 changes in measurements:


Hard to tell how the Ferrari got that shape inside these measurements. It could be at for instance 12 cm and the lower part at 7 cm in order to make that fluent bend, but that doesn't seem very logical as the front-wings effectiveness is dependant from the ground clearance.
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