Who will win the 2006 V8Supercar Championship Series? (NEW POLL ADDED) - Page 7

Pro Racer · 28 Nov 2006, 07:43 (Ref:1776398)

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Originally Posted by Chatters

"Lowndes" says my brain, "Kelly" says my Red Mist, and "Richo" says my heart to cap a good 4 years at Perkins Motorsport.

"Murph" says my Home as he prepares to jump in a Tasman car next year.

peckstar · 28 Nov 2006, 08:05 (Ref:1776407)

do you reckon that. now we are a few rounds further on. we can re do this poll.

obviously time has moved on and rick now leads.

hopefully the mods can just post the result and reset everything to zero, so that the posts can continue, or maybe its just a new thread

**GTRMagic** · 29 Nov 2006, 09:28 (Ref:1777546)

.... who shall be the Champion of 2006??

The old poll results

Will they change when you have to vote again?

Chatters · 29 Nov 2006, 09:35 (Ref:1777556)

One guess who voted for Frosty already...

My vote still goes to Rick. I think he can withstand the pressure of Lowndes and drive calmly and race well and win his first V8 Supercar Championship.

Boxy · 29 Nov 2006, 09:56 (Ref:1777580)

No changes to my vote...

It would be great to see Rick win his maiden title, he has played the game well.

All we want gentlemen, is a good clean fight.

None of this

stuff!!

Aarrgh8 · 29 Nov 2006, 10:06 (Ref:1777592)

Ericthehalibut voted for Craigie, so I did too.

Senna05 · 29 Nov 2006, 10:33 (Ref:1777617)

No change here - Only one of those guys deserves it, driving with the emotions he did during Bathurst.

That guy, even if he doesn't win, deserves every accolade he has received and gotten (My only wish is that he was still in a Red machine...)

Pro Racer · 29 Nov 2006, 11:42 (Ref:1777675)

no change on my behalf,i think Rick can hold on and show his new found maturaty and win the title.

Senna05 · 29 Nov 2006, 11:50 (Ref:1777684)

You know, I was just thinking back. Who was the last Holden champion who wasn't named Skaife or Lowndes?

I think you'll have to go back to a Brock...

Senna05 · 29 Nov 2006, 11:55 (Ref:1777689)

just checked. Last Holden champion before 1994 (Skaife, Gibson MS) was Brock in 1980.

dsg · 29 Nov 2006, 14:17 (Ref:1777799)

I have changed my vote as the potential championship Holdens seem faster than the potential championship Fords. Qualifying will be interesting.

SRabbit · 29 Nov 2006, 20:25 (Ref:1778051)

Craig still in front by opinion on the new one - very good!

Despite popular opinion the car has the goods to win it - it's his qualifying that has let him down.
As far as fastest laps go, he was
Quicker at Bathurst
Quicker in 2 of the 3 races at Indy
Couldn't match him in Tassie
Quicker in 2 of the 3 races in Bahrian - so this nonsense about the car having no pace is unfounded.

Given that he loves Phillip Island, has his own groove in the road he has done so many laps going back to the HRT days, and had pole and a race win last year, with a Championship on the line he'll be tough to beat

Captain · 29 Nov 2006, 21:03 (Ref:1778068)

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Originally Posted by SRabbit

Craig still in front by opinion on the new one - very good!

Despite popular opinion the car has the goods to win it - it's his qualifying that has let him down.
As far as fastest laps go, he was
Quicker at Bathurst
Quicker in 2 of the 3 races at Indy
Couldn't match him in Tassie
Quicker in 2 of the 3 races in Bahrian - so this nonsense about the car having no pace is unfounded.

Did you base the speed comparisons on observation only or did you visit Natsoft? Just curious, not disagreeing.

SRabbit · 29 Nov 2006, 21:32 (Ref:1778097)

Natsoft

stradlin21 · 29 Nov 2006, 23:16 (Ref:1778167)

i really want Lowndes to win

hopefully the races will be on live over here, only race 3 of the last round was on live

SRabbit · 30 Nov 2006, 00:18 (Ref:1778199)

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Originally Posted by Captain

Did you base the speed comparisons on observation only or did you visit Natsoft? Just curious, not disagreeing.

here's a full run down of the year.....most of you lot keep saying Rick's car is quicker...better have a closer look...

Adelaide - 1 race each
NZ - Craig 2 from 3
WA - Rick 2 from 3
Winton - Craig 2 from 3
NT - Craig clean sweep
QLD - Craig 2 from 3
Oran Park - Craig 2 from 3
Sandown - Craig
Bathurst - Craig
Indy - Craig 2 from 3
Tas - Rick clean sweep
Bahrain - Craig 2 from 3

so out of the 31 races run and won this year so far it's 19-Craig/12- Rick for fastest laps.

If Craig qualifies in front of Rick then Rick should start worrying....

Dazz · 30 Nov 2006, 02:44 (Ref:1778237)

I did a quick calculation of average finishing positions for both Craig and Rick.

For Craigs DNF at Adelaide I awarded him 27th which seemed fair.

Results are:

Rick Kelly - 6.322580645
Craig Lowndes - 6.580645161

It seems that when Craig goes well he goes very well, but his bad rounds are worse.

It would be interesting to see other years winners average finishing position to see if it varies much. I think they will mostly be around this number, except for maybe a few years like Lowndes or Skaife's total domination in HRT's glory days. Ambrose would possibly have a reasonable finishing position as well.

Anyway, it's just another way to look at the figures I guess. Just remember, figures can lie and liars can figure

Senna05 · 30 Nov 2006, 05:26 (Ref:1778282)

Dazz, without the lower points for race 2, I think that this formula would show the retrospective drivers correctly in their championship position with the points score the way it is. I could be wrong.

Dazz · 30 Nov 2006, 18:11 (Ref:1778889)

Yes without the reverse grid races the positions would be higher.

Although the relativity would remain similar.

After watching the reverse grid rounds, I think the biggest travesty is that those races were onyl worth half points. It really affected those who bombed race one, started from the rear and got back in the top few places.

RotorFan · 1 Dec 2006, 00:19 (Ref:1779147)

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Originally Posted by Dazz

Anyway, it's just another way to look at the figures I guess.

No it isn't. The points system is linear, the points are exactly proportional to the finishing positions for all races.

And you can't include a DNF in a *finishing* position average.

Its interesting that the poll has now changed to have Rick in the lead now that he is leading the championship. It looks like votes are also exactly proportional to the championship order!

WebberForWDC · 1 Dec 2006, 02:48 (Ref:1779192)

Would it be so unfeasable that W. Davison and A. Jones DNF all races. In fact it's probably quite likely. So if the same likely event happens to different numbers it could be lowndes and kelly, and it's a likely event.

Thus Frosty is to take the title, using structed illogic.

Dazz · 1 Dec 2006, 22:06 (Ref:1779871)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RotorFan

And you can't include a DNF in a *finishing* position average.

Not technically no, but for the purpose of this you really need to. Basically coulnt the finishers then count the order the non finishers came according to laps finished.

Otherwise if someone finished first in half the races and dnf'd the other half, their average position would be 1st which is not really right.

Peter Ford · 10 Dec 2006, 00:36 (Ref:1786107)

Can't remember if Rick Kelly has won any races\rounds wins,if he hasnt,then if he wins the championship,he will do it without winning races.he has mange to finsh 2nd and 3rd only.

View Poll Results: Who will win the 2006 V8Supercar Championship?
Rick Kelly	24	37.50%
Craig Lowndes	37	57.81%
Mark Winterbottom	3	4.69%
Russell Ingall	0	0%
Garth Tander	0	0%
Voters: 64. You may not vote on this poll

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