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Old 28 Aug 2007, 04:56 (Ref:1998094)   #51
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What are spotters and strategists for?

I think you will find they knew exactly where he was going to come out.
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Old 28 Aug 2007, 10:44 (Ref:1998289)   #52
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Wow. Once again I seem to have seen a completely different race than you. When did he drive anyone off the road? (I thought that was Dario!)

I do remember Helio banging wheels with Scott, but as Scott had the inside line and just held it, that would have to be down to Helio trying to pass. Neither driver complained about the incident after the race.

I haven't heard any complaints from any drivers about what Scott did. Dario even praised him for giving racing room when on cold tires! (unlike his own teammate).

Seriously dude, get the blinkers off.

edit: i see now you've already been reproached by Knowlesy...
Get the blinkers off? 1 this has already been discussed as I already proved what I saw earlier. I explained each instance. Go look at youtube if they're on there.

Fact, Dixon coming out of the pits swerved dangerously across to the left then the right. He also later forced Kanaan onto the dirt at high speed when he was along side. Moving once, ok but continously swerving is dangerous and is also blocking and is not tolerated by the IRL. That is why he should have got a black flag for the 4th time. If you didn't see that then that isn't my problem.

As for Dario driving someone off, Marco closed the door on him, and Dario tapped him from behind. A racing incident which can't be compared to forcing drivers off the road or vioelently swerving multiple times.

I also said I fully understand why Dixon did this becaue it was vital he stayed ahead.
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Old 28 Aug 2007, 13:02 (Ref:1998390)   #53
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Did we all hear Marcos radio translation after he retired ?
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Old 28 Aug 2007, 16:12 (Ref:1998491)   #54
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Violently swerving multiple times.

This really is tabloid stuff.
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Old 28 Aug 2007, 17:48 (Ref:1998564)   #55
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Violently swerving multiple times.

This really is tabloid stuff.
Like I said before.

Oh, so dramatically, instantly swerving left then right so no one called past isn't violent swerving? If that isn't blocking, then I guess you describe blocking as literally blocking a race track. Fact is that is blocking and against the rules which earns a black flag. Like I said moving once is fine to me. Then you brought up Champ Car isn't even motor racing as well.
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Old 28 Aug 2007, 19:59 (Ref:1998676)   #56
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Well apparently Tony slowed 2 seconds a lap when Dixon was stuck behind him and couldn't get past....no wonder ...I'd be swerving too if that was happening to me.

I don't want to take sides but I don't think we have heard the last of this issue. Two races to go and if TK is going to do all he can to help Dario win the title it doesn't look as though 'ethical' racing is going have much space to play in...
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Old 28 Aug 2007, 21:05 (Ref:1998741)   #57
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luke I think we put this one down to we choose to disagree on this matter as it seams we were watching diffrent races
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Old 29 Aug 2007, 00:23 (Ref:1998847)   #58
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No need to disagree on this matter NAC, coz the kiwi won the race. No further discussion required.
AGR stuffed it up, and I must admit I had a great old laff at Mikey having a tantrum on his pit umbrella over it.
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Old 29 Aug 2007, 09:56 (Ref:1999050)   #59
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Great article by Miller there. I was suprised when Dario stayed with AGR this season after last season's Californian gift to Andretti jnr but maybe now he'll get the message.
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Old 29 Aug 2007, 17:24 (Ref:1999344)   #60
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Message couldn't be much clearer, could it? And it was damn funny to watch Mikey throw his fit.

And anyone who turns right from pit out directly into the racing line and faster cars is a numbnutz. No way was that Dario's fault, except for having a bad team mate and nepotistic team owner.
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Old 30 Aug 2007, 07:59 (Ref:1999858)   #61
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Hmmm - well i don't know about that. Marco stayed as far to the left as he should have done, until after the blend line, and if it was anyone other than a team mate it would have been a racing accident albeit one more caused by Marco than Dario.

You can only blame the team really - Dario was going to get through on the next corner anyway so why allow Marco the choice of slowing him down. Poor effort by the team management.
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Old 30 Aug 2007, 09:01 (Ref:1999876)   #62
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Poor effort by the team management.
Summed up nicely
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Old 30 Aug 2007, 18:23 (Ref:2000245)   #63
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In my open wheel column today, I placed it squarely on team management. They could've either held Marco another half second in the pits or they should have pitted him earlier to avoid it..

and it could become a million dollar mistake for AGR, because instead of a 21 point lead for Dario in the championship, it is now a four point deficit with another road/street course coming up this Sunday.
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Old 30 Aug 2007, 19:53 (Ref:2000313)   #64
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In my open wheel column today, I placed it squarely on team management. They could've either held Marco another half second in the pits or they should have pitted him earlier to avoid it..

and it could become a million dollar mistake for AGR, because instead of a 21 point lead for Dario in the championship, it is now a four point deficit with another road/street course coming up this Sunday.
Even better summed up. Tim can you post got a link ot the article? (we wont class that as self promotion, I asked)
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Old 30 Aug 2007, 20:46 (Ref:2000366)   #66
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And very fascinating read I may add...My afternoon just goes!
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