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11 Oct 2010, 16:35 (Ref:2773223) | #51 | ||
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Posted in wrong thread, so edited out content. (cant delete my own posts.)
If a mod sees this please delete the post if you wish. Last edited by E.B; 11 Oct 2010 at 16:40. |
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11 Oct 2010, 23:27 (Ref:2773486) | #52 | |||
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I agree the FIA has also been wrong in not coming down on other previous examples of team orders. As an aside, I am surprised that no-one else has identified that it wasn't "Ferrari" that handled the team orders so badly, it was Rob Smedley and Felipe Massa. My interpretation was that Ferrari had the plan up their sleeve from the beginning. But RS was so pi$$ed off that his man was being pushed out of the way that he chose to make it screamingly obvious. Then FM did likewise in the way he gave away the place. I reckon Rob Smedley got a serious reprimand after that one. Actually I was surprised he kept his job at all, but we'll see whether he keeps it next year. |
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12 Oct 2010, 00:10 (Ref:2773500) | #53 | |
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If they'd fired him immediately afterwards, that would have reeked of it being a team order from high up the organisation and certainly not in the Massa camp. Of course, everyone knew that anyway, but what with the Alonso's side (probably Stefano Domenicali, Colajanni and Alonso himself) and Massa's side (Rob Smedley and Felipe Massa) all protesting team harmony, it would have suggested otherwise if they'd got rid of him straight away.
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12 Oct 2010, 09:42 (Ref:2773687) | #54 | |||
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12 Oct 2010, 10:28 (Ref:2773711) | #55 | ||
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Like i've said before, I'm sure i'm not alone in saying i'd love to see Felipe elsewhere along with Mr Smedley.
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12 Oct 2010, 10:29 (Ref:2773712) | #56 | ||
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I think him and Kobayashi would have been a great pairing at Sauber, but we know that's now impossible. I think that Williams seat would be a nice fit..
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12 Oct 2010, 11:40 (Ref:2773750) | #57 | |
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Ferrari's case was different. Not only did they break the rules, but they also gave step-by-step instructions on how to do it really badly in a situation that affected the outcome of podium positions.
I have no doubt that 'team orders' have been used again by other teams since that episode. Where and when? Will we ever know? |
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17 Oct 2010, 22:52 (Ref:2776354) | #58 | ||
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So Ferrari have shown us what they will do to win the championship..... so whats next.
Would they go so far as to put KERS back in Alonso's car for the final 3 races? If Alonso won the final 3 races, with Webber and Vettel scrapping for 2nd's and 3rds then Alonso would win the drivers championship. They have shown that they will break the "no team orders" rule to try win the championship. Considering that the "no KERS" rule is only a gentlemans agreement, i cant say they would sweat too much about breaking that. |
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17 Oct 2010, 23:59 (Ref:2776366) | #59 | |
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That's an interesting point manwell. Anyone could run with KERS if they wanted. Gentlemen's agreements don't seem appropriate considering the way teams will stretch rules to the limit. KERS is still in the regs.
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18 Oct 2010, 00:32 (Ref:2776370) | #60 | |
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Good luck attaching KERS to a car not designed for it. I dont see any team fitting one to their current 2010 cars in the remainding 3 races
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18 Oct 2010, 01:04 (Ref:2776377) | #61 | |
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Didn't FOTA agree not to use KERS in June last year?
The next year's car design would be fairly well on by then, and even then is it so hard to implement the system? The cars have not changed that much. |
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18 Oct 2010, 01:42 (Ref:2776380) | #62 | |
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It totally screws with the weight balance, since those batteries are pretty heavy. I think the all the development that has been taking place since then has made it unfeasable to try to attempt KERS at this stage.
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18 Oct 2010, 04:52 (Ref:2776433) | #63 | |
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18 Oct 2010, 06:14 (Ref:2776450) | #64 | |
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Oh gentlemen where did this come from?
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