Mika shouldnt have pushed the car

DancingMachine · 29 Apr 2001, 14:09 (Ref:86568)

he blew an engine..do u guys think he should have pushed the car after MS slowed done by over 3 sec a lap. He 2 like MS could cruise n win the race. but he kept pushing. he also managed to lap montoya who was pushing himself to hold position against JV.

i think mika should have cruised the race...cool your engine BOY.

Kenny W. · 29 Apr 2001, 21:30 (Ref:86808)

I think he should have pushed the car.
He had a full 2 minutes to cross the line before the 3rd placed driver!!

Jackie Stewart did it !!

Tristan · 29 Apr 2001, 21:32 (Ref:86810)

Grrroooaaannn!!

Valve Bounce · 30 Apr 2001, 05:47 (Ref:86900)

I think it is against the regulations to push the car. Maybe Dancing machine can ask his friends about this.

DNQ · 30 Apr 2001, 07:04 (Ref:86909)

Yes Valve Bounce, it is against the regulations. However, there is a loop hole in the rules. You are allowed to push your car if it is in a dangerous position. At a race in 1991, Andrea De Cesaris pushed his Jordan past the line in fourth place. He was prompltly disqualified. Eddie Jordan appealed, saying the he was moving the car out of a dangerous position. The FIA had no choice but to reinstate fourth place.

Valve Bounce · 30 Apr 2001, 09:38 (Ref:86934)

Hey Guys, I was just wondering. What would have happened if DC had come onto his ailing team mate, and literally pushed his team mate across the line with his car?

Sparky · 30 Apr 2001, 11:24 (Ref:86967)

Article 61 of the FIA Sporting Regulations:

Quote:

61) The driver must drive the car alone and unaided.

I guess if they had tried it, they could both have been excluded.

DancingMachine · 30 Apr 2001, 12:01 (Ref:86981)

val ounce. do u ever talk bout F1 or are u more interested in me n my friends ? n ive told u. YOU ARE NO LONGER WELCOME IN MY POSTS. cuz u always talk bout something which isnt concerned with the topic. if u can see the post n read it properly with your -.3 glasses, i didnt mention regulations. i just said that he should have taken his time in the last few laps n cool the engine. that might even have prevented the so called CLUTCH PROBLEM.

DancingMachine · 30 Apr 2001, 12:05 (Ref:86983)

ORIGINALLY POSTED BY LAXMAN

"Ha,Ha,Ha

that was teh best race for soem time.
Great drive by TGF with th eproblem.This si a thread for ferrari fans and not mclaren ones.I have no sympathy for MH.HE was very foolish to go that fast till the last lap knowinghe was going to win.

Go TGF!!!!!!! "

mika did go very fast. n indeed he was stupid.

Wrex · 30 Apr 2001, 12:27 (Ref:86997)

Quote:

Originally posted by DancingMachine
val ounce. do u ever talk bout F1 or are u more interested in me n my friends ? n ive told u. YOU ARE NO LONGER WELCOME IN MY POSTS. cuz u always talk bout something which isnt concerned with the topic. if u can see the post n read it properly with your -.3 glasses, i didnt mention regulations. i just said that he should have taken his time in the last few laps n cool the engine. that might even have prevented the so called CLUTCH PROBLEM.

Dancing Machine - are you also willing to adhere to these guidlines yourself. Please remember - this is a forum for discussion, not just for you to voice YOUR opinion.

Now - back to topic

How could Mika have known what would happen? - I think your just being critical

F1 Jonny · 30 Apr 2001, 12:51 (Ref:87018)

Mika should have backed off - he had no reason to push and this probably contributed to his breakdown! Losing the race was potentially has own fault which may explain why he was so resigned to it!

kuchi · 30 Apr 2001, 13:05 (Ref:87027)

Mika did what he had to, after the second pit stop he was faster than anyone on the track, so why slowing down?, if you can win it win it big, and what if he cruised and the engine still would've blown?, who to blame?.....

Liz · 30 Apr 2001, 13:48 (Ref:87045)

"Dancing Machine" you are not allowed to dictate who is and is not allowed to answer your postings. This is not your private playground. Just settle down all right?

Mika is the best judge of what he should and should not do when he is behind the wheel of the car. Not people sitting on their sofas at home, especially people who have never been in that position. Sometimes it works and sometimes it does not, but it is the pilot who decides.

And as far as driving "alone and unaided" that would seem to contravene all the "driver crutches" that are now "legal". Is that reg. going to be amended?

robert2000 · 30 Apr 2001, 18:09 (Ref:87141)

Mika did all he could. Remember, Mika wasn't pushing the car especially, TGF was going much slower than expected, giving an illusion that Hakkinen was pushing hard. What if he'd slowed down, let the revs drop and stalled the car?

Billy_Hunt · 30 Apr 2001, 18:11 (Ref:87143)

It's easy in hindsight to say Mika shoudn't have pushed the car, I said it my self in another thread.
But since Mika has stated that he was really enjoying himself and the car was handling beautifuly, when he puts like that you can understand why he contined to go so fast after all he is a "racing" driver.
Plus Mika or the team weren't to know the clutch was about to explode they haven't got a warning system for this yet !
It has always amazed me how TGF can just slow right down to save the car it must surely go against his instinct.

senna12 · 30 Apr 2001, 18:17 (Ref:87147)

If there was no telemetry to cover the situation, then Mika would have suspected nothing. If he was driving within himself, however quickly, then he would have felt no reason to slow down. Many drivers say that doing so often interrupts your rhythm and causes mistakes. He felt most comfortable at the pace he was running, and that was it. Poor luck, but certainly NOT stupidity.

Valve Bounce · 30 Apr 2001, 22:53 (Ref:87313)

Actually, Mika had been driving very carefully when his clutch failed. He was not pushing, as suggested by Dancing Machine. maybe Dancing Machine can ask his friends to keep him better informed.

DancingMachine · 1 May 2001, 19:11 (Ref:87637)

val ounce..for your safety ...never meet me face to face.........

Sparky · 1 May 2001, 20:00 (Ref:87665)

Dancing Machine - did you get my Private Message about the Forum rules? I'd be happy if you could reply.

**Bononi** · 1 May 2001, 20:29 (Ref:87683)

uh uh... I think some physical fighting coming along !

Sparky, we should not allow guns in this forum !!!

DancingMachine turn off !!!!

Wrex · 2 May 2001, 01:27 (Ref:87822)

Quote:

Originally posted by Sparky
Dancing Machine - did you get my Private Message about the Forum rules? I'd be happy if you could reply.

Trsut me Sparky, He does'nt read them - I've sent a few

Dino IV · 2 May 2001, 01:39 (Ref:87826)

> Mika shouldnt have pushed the car

Mika should have pushed his car to the finish.

Innes Ireland once pushed his car for almost an entire lap at Monaco. Mind you, pushing the car uphill to Casino ...

Today's drivers are just a bunch of spoilt girlies didn't we notice that yet?

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