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View Poll Results: Do you agree with the current noise rule ? | |||
Yes, I agree. | 19 | 54.29% | |
No, I do not agree. | 16 | 45.71% | |
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19 Nov 2008, 13:26 (Ref:2337618) | #26 | |||
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I know it's the racing that counts, but you just can't beat a big ol' screaming/thumping engine. Heck, that even got me hooked on sportscar racing in the first place. The noise is one of sportscar racing's big 'wow' factors - noises you just don't get in single seater series (I've nearly fallen asleep during F3 and FFord races sometimes) or touring cars. The old screaming Judds, all the big thumping V8's and wild V12's all pounding at your chest is one of Le Mans' magical elements. Yes, it's an "added extra", because the racing is what counts, but it's something I'll sorely miss. I have noted in the FIA GT championship this year and last year at Silverstone, seeing obvious newbies to the sport enter the gates during warmups and/or practice sessions - when cars like Corvettes and Murcielagos shot past their jaws fell wide open in astonishment. I even heard people near me shouting "woooah!" etc. You don't go see GT racing to watch sleek quiet cars, you go there to see big, untamed fire-breathing monsters. I guess the ACO anticipated discussions like this, though, and say if we are all real fans of this sport then we'll get used to it. But I struggle to get enough time off when I want to attend something like Le Mans - new rules like this are far more likely to dampen my enthusiasm and efforts. I'll obviously still go, but it won't quite be the same. Last edited by TheNewBob; 19 Nov 2008 at 13:29. |
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19 Nov 2008, 14:00 (Ref:2337642) | #27 | |
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Disagree entirely - those wanting unsilenced race cars are just as bad in their own way as the NIMBYs....like it or not a compromise is best, 110-112 is still loud enough thank you without spoiling the aural pleasure.
I would quite like to be able to speak to my friends and young nephew at a race without having to shout too loudly....is that too much to ask? |
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19 Nov 2008, 14:49 (Ref:2337662) | #28 | |||
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[/QUOTE]I would quite like to be able to speak to my friends and young nephew at a race without having to shout too loudly....is that too much to ask?[/QUOTE] As a matter of fact , yes it is !!! Your just like one of these anti-smoking people , just cuz people with an attitude like that didnt like it , we all have to tow the line . Did people ever scream about a Ferrari V12 ...... no . Motorsport is by nature loud , and if you dont like that I suggest you stay at home and let the rest of us appreciate it , enjoy it at least . Is that too much to ask ? Yakonw , one day people are going to start sueing the local governments because they got wet at the beach . If you dont like getting wet , stay away from the beach is the natural answer , is it not , not try to change it cuz you dont like it . Engines are noisey ..... fact of life !!! |
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19 Nov 2008, 15:12 (Ref:2337673) | #29 | ||
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I have to agree with Badger on this one. If you don't like the noise, then don't go to the race.
I remember the first sports car race I went to ('01 24 Hours of Daytona), the thing that made the biggest impression on me was that it was loud as hell; in particular, the Marcos Mantis which shook the earth as it went by (god what a sweet sound). That hooked me. If you don't like noise, maybe watching the TV is a good option. |
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19 Nov 2008, 15:29 (Ref:2337680) | #30 | ||||
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Everybody has different reasons why they like motorsports. Some want to watch it for the drivers, other for the cars, a third for his interest in the technology, some for the speed, someone else for the fights and others want to see crashes. Luckily there are several forms of motorsports to cater for all these needs. For star drivers there is F1, cars fighting wheel to wheel can be seen in touringcarraces, IRL-cars reach 400kp/h and NASCARs crash all the time. Now that leaves 2 holes for interesting technology and for mouthwatering cars. These are IMO best filled by sportscars and GT's. It is really the spirit of Le Mans to think of better ways to make the cars faster in difficult circumstances. The 24h race was originally started to test light on cars. I have no problem with challenge the builders of these cars with all kind of challenges, for instance a limit on noise, fueluse or tyrewear. As long as manufacturers get the opportunity to be creative in solving their puzzle. For GT's it's another story. They have only 1 thing to do, and that is to make you think:'I want to drive one of those!' Loud noise and flames and big engines are important ways of reaching that goal, and thus should be allowed. My conclusion: noisereduction on prototypes: ok, on GT's: not ok. |
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If 'quieter' racing means that racing will survive and continue, then I'm for 'quieter' racing. The alternatives aren't too pleasing - ie, shutting down tracks.
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19 Nov 2008, 16:24 (Ref:2337708) | #34 | |||
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As to the noise regulation, even at 110db the cars can still be felt, much less heard. If you must have it louder your deaf already and probably need hearing aids! Get some, then you can turn them up 'til your ears bleed. L.P. |
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19 Nov 2008, 16:51 (Ref:2337720) | #35 | ||
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19 Nov 2008, 16:59 (Ref:2337725) | #36 | ||
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Doesn't solve the source of the problem now does it?
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People need to understand that racing is a competition that occurs between people on the track, to the regulations set forth by the sanctioning body. It is what it is. Trying to amend everything so that it pleases every fan is not in the best interest of the sport. If the engines are loud, then they're loud. Deal with it. |
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I think it can safely be said that most, if not 100%, of the members here do not wish to have racing take place at the db level of the diesels! But to not realize that shaving some off the top in order to keep the NIMBYs at bay is a good thing, is, not dealing with it. L.P. |
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Friend of mine use to work for GM. He went out to the proving gounds and saw a bunch of the new Chevy Volt eletric cars running.
When the tests were over, a bunch of the drivers went out and starting racing around the track. My friend said those little electric cars had lots of torque and were very quick, but NO SOUND. Just wooshing air as they passed by. |
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Ok, the first time I saw the Audi R10 in competition, I was impressed. Then, when I saw the Peugeot, which is even quieter, I was equally impressed. It's interesting to see that power can be attained quietly, yes, but cars should be distinctive in the sounds (or lack thereof) that they produce. Having a few virtually silent cars on the track is a good thing, I think, but they need to be intermixed with the screaming Zytek engines, or the earth-shaking Corvettes. Variety is the spice of life, don't take away the magic from the loud boys. |
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