BMW Launch - Page 2

speedbump · 17 Jan 2006, 12:44 (Ref:1503042)

Looks ok to me. Not wow.
The front view reminded me of the older Williams BMW.

So the chassis is all new design ?

Splatz the Cow · 17 Jan 2006, 12:51 (Ref:1503043)

I think the livery is excellent from a design standpoint, however, I can understand how it doesn't inspire the lowest common denominator, but surely that isn't BMW's target audience.

Also can anyone shed some light on why its called BMW-Sauber?

I don't think anyone has discussed that yet?

Has that been discussed yet?

Hmm maybe I'll draft a raft made of rafters and a rudder aft, then after I'll ask ASCII why BMW F1 team is called BMW-Sauber.

Oh, no the fanatacism is unbearable...

Well, I honestly didn't know the answer to The Monster's question so I was glad he asked it.

The Monster obviously wasn't aware that ASCII has special rights to make a personal attack.

Watch out everone.

Be a gentleman (or something) and post an apology ASCII Man.

The STIG · 17 Jan 2006, 12:52 (Ref:1503048)

hmmmm... It's a bit boring colour sheme. other than that, it's nothing remarkable in design... all in all - ZZZzzzzZZzZZZzzzZZzZzZz

Hopefully it's more exciting on the track - but please bring back those lovely blue colours! they were great.

Silk Cut Jaguar · 17 Jan 2006, 12:56 (Ref:1503051)

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Originally Posted by ASCII Man

What a daft question!

Because most guys at the team are leftovers from Sauber, and Peter Sauber himself has a consultary role in the new BMW team, so in honour of Peter Sauber they continued the use of the Sauber name.

Sauber, Sauber, Sauber...

It's hardly a daft question. When BMW bought the team it was said the Sauber name would be dropped from the team entirely, so it's no surprise people are curious why they decided on BMW-Sauber.

Also, having members from the past squad is irrelevant, otherwise we'd have Stewart-Jaguar-RBR and Red Bull-Minardi on the grid.

**Adam43** · 17 Jan 2006, 13:04 (Ref:1503061)

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Originally Posted by EERO

the dip in the top of the airbox fairing just behind the camera mount is strange; why not just smooth out the line? Is this in an area affected by the rules on overall dimensions?

I think it is. They want it to draop away quickly, but they have to back out of that as they reach an area they need to have an airbox. I think the idea of those particular rules are to allow more sponsorship space

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splatz the Cow

I think the livery is excellent from a design standpoint, however, I can understand how it doesn't inspire the lowest common denominator, but surely that isn't BMW's target audience.

I think the lowest might fit

The liver is alright, it was never going to be JPS. I actually wish it was even closer to the touring cars.

ASCII Man · 17 Jan 2006, 13:16 (Ref:1503069)

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Originally Posted by Silk Cut Jaguar

It's hardly a daft question. When BMW bought the team it was said the Sauber name would be dropped from the team entirely, so it's no surprise people are curious why they decided on BMW-Sauber.

Also, having members from the past squad is irrelevant, otherwise we'd have Stewart-Jaguar-RBR and Red Bull-Minardi on the grid.

Nevermind then...

ASCII Man · 17 Jan 2006, 14:22 (Ref:1503109)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splatz the Cow

The Monster obviously wasn't aware that ASCII has special rights to make a personal attack.

Watch out everone.

Be a gentleman (or something) and post an apology ASCII Man.

What personal attack?

dazbaz_99 · 17 Jan 2006, 14:32 (Ref:1503111)

Quote:

What a daft question!

i think were referring to that comment?

okeefe · 17 Jan 2006, 14:39 (Ref:1503114)

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Originally Posted by Dani Filth

i like the livery . it's simplicity

I agree - simple, shiney and nice.

ASCII Man · 17 Jan 2006, 15:01 (Ref:1503127)

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Originally Posted by dazbaz_99

i think were referring to that comment?

That wasn't meant to be offensive, but my apologies nonetheless if it has been received as such.

Osella · 17 Jan 2006, 15:02 (Ref:1503129)

don't Intel sponsor Toyota too?

TheNewBob · 17 Jan 2006, 15:13 (Ref:1503133)

I think the use of those colours was only to be expected from BMW, and from the front I do like the look of it - but from the side the colour scheme is just a mess - I'm all for "simple but effective" - however to me that car from the side view looks like a white car with a blue blob plonked in the middle.

I'm quite fond of what they're trying to do with it but in my view they should have designed it to follow the lines of the car - which it does indeed do to good effect on the nose cone.

As far as the actual shape and body of the car, to me it's the prettiest of all the new 2006 designs revealed so far...

429CJ · 17 Jan 2006, 15:26 (Ref:1503138)

It's almost like this one!

EERO · 17 Jan 2006, 15:38 (Ref:1503152)

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Originally Posted by TheNewBob

... I'm all for "simple but effective" - however to me that car from the side view looks like a white car with a blue blob plonked in the middle.

I'm quite fond of what they're trying to do with it but in my view they should have designed it to follow the lines of the car - which it does indeed do to good effect on the nose cone.
.

Well put. I was thinking along similar lines but wasn't able to articulate it. The mid-section really is odd-but understanding the graphic its comprehensible. It just coulkd have follwed the line of the car better.

Kirk · 17 Jan 2006, 15:50 (Ref:1503158)

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Originally Posted by Osella

don't Intel sponsor Toyota too?

Yes, I believe they just announced that a few days ago .... they make a lot of chips!

I'm a little disappointed as I would have preferred they keep at least a semblance of the Sauber colour scheme but at least this car should be distinguishable on the track. I'm not sure if Honda-BAR are keeping their predominantly white livery?

Sodemo · 17 Jan 2006, 15:54 (Ref:1503161)

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Originally Posted by Kirk

Yes, I believe they just announced that a few days ago .... they make a lot of chips!

I'm a little disappointed as I would have preferred they keep at least a semblance of the Sauber colour scheme but at least this car should be distinguishable on the track. I'm not sure if Honda-BAR are keeping their predominantly white livery?

Sorry Kirk, but I for one am glad to see the back of the god-awful Sauber colour scheme, I personally thought it has always looked dire, a total mess of pre-school proportions, however thats only my opinion...

Louis B. · 17 Jan 2006, 16:04 (Ref:1503170)

First impression: That's a 2005 Sauber with a Williams-like livery

Second impression: Very conservative, nothing revolutionary as far as I can see, the livery reminds me of the late-Tyrrels.

I'm now going to read about it. I would like to hear the experts on the technical changes / evolutions which may appear in comparison with the Sauber 2005. My fear remains indeed that there is not much evolution on the chassis side of things.

Louis B. · 17 Jan 2006, 16:14 (Ref:1503175)

Dear Louis B.

Have a look to this site if you want some comfort on the car's improvements on the chassis side: http://www.formula1.com/news/3918.html Obviously, this is PR stuff but, I am confident, the experts of this learned forum will explain give you more input as to whether this beauty is in fact a serious contender.

Keep on posting Louis, I love your posts.

andy_b · 17 Jan 2006, 16:16 (Ref:1503180)

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Originally Posted by Louis B.

First impression: That's a 2005 Sauber with a Williams-like livery

Thats because BMW designed the BMW.Williams F1 livery and also had extensive branding rights. At the same time, the Blue and Red tie's in with their WTCC car, although that livery is more stunning. This is quite conservative. I'm surprised a little more blue wasn't used

safc_fan89 · 17 Jan 2006, 16:34 (Ref:1503194)

The livery is a bit bland. Surely they could have come up with something slightly more eye-catching?

Sodemo · 17 Jan 2006, 16:47 (Ref:1503202)

I'm just sad that the car wont have the traditional FINA multi-coloured flag on the chassis somewhere...

Louis B. · 17 Jan 2006, 16:55 (Ref:1503207)

Credit Suisse has much less exposure too...

Does anyone have details and pictures of today's shakedown of the beast at Valencia. Who drove it (Heidfelf for sure but what about the most popular / unpopular driver of this forum)?

BTW, another pearl today from Jack-Jack:

QUOTE
Your overalls are always too large. Is there any practical reason behind it or does it have any other deeper sense?
"No, my overalls are not too large. All the other drivers have them too tight..."
END QUOTE

Louis B. · 17 Jan 2006, 17:21 (Ref:1503224)

Here are the piccies of BMW's new contender on track: http://www.f1racing.net/en/gallery.php?catID=1852

Not surprisingly, NH was granted the honour of trying it first today while JV ran the 2005 with a V8 engine. NH made 29 laps while JV did 50. NH fastest lap was 0.6 seconds faster than JV. See:

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=34865

speedfreek · 17 Jan 2006, 17:27 (Ref:1503227)

i think the idea is right but the execution isnt. i think the best thing to have done is just add the red pin stripes to the old willaims livery plus new sponsers.

Alwaysfirst · 17 Jan 2006, 19:09 (Ref:1503301)

I don't like that front end. I think the nose just looks squashed into the front wing-not at all attractive or elegant.

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