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27 Jan 2004, 19:55 (Ref:852740) | #51 | |
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'or being realistic.'
That's right! Which confirms that it's mainly about money, not talent... (or supposed talent) |
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Jos would also cost Jordan nothing, his sponsors would pay him a salary, + Jordan would get the 8 million euro's from the sponsors.
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27 Jan 2004, 20:10 (Ref:852764) | #53 | |
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Is it likely EJ will get 2 drivers with both cash and talent? McNish? No talent (for F1)! Cash, maybe (B&H)...
Heidfeld? Talent, but no cash. Firman? Talent? Doubtful! Cash? Maybe. Verstappen? Talent, yes or no. Cash? Definitively! So, no! EJ should at least sign Verstappen to be safe. |
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Maybe Heidfeld just wants to have a drive for this season! He wants to be in F1, if no pay will come his way then so be it! What Eddie really needs though is money
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27 Jan 2004, 20:15 (Ref:852775) | #56 | |
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Maybe Eddie can get the Trust-money without having to sign Jos. If you read the comments carefully, it is Jos and his people who have broken off all negotations. Perhaps Trust put a drive for Jos forward as a condition to sponsor, but Eddie was not willing to give in to that demand. So no Jos, but does that neccesarily mean no Trust either? Trust wants F1-exposure and can get if fairly easy if only they pay the price. Perhaps a bit less one Jos isn't part of the deal, but still...
Besides, Trust is giving an interest in Christijan Albers as well albeit for 2005. Perhaps they want to speed things up now that Jos doesn't seem to be in favour of the Jordan-people. Perhaps Albers is. Mercedes will let him go and in a shockmove, Albers can be confirmed as a Jordan GP-driver within the next ten days, happily sponsored by Trust! |
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No way any of that will happen, certainly not Albers joining Jordan this year, breaking of the negotiations was a decision not only made by Jos but also by Michel Peridon and Harry Muermans. |
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27 Jan 2004, 20:28 (Ref:852802) | #60 | |
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Steve, do you actually have some involvement with Jos or Trust or are you just making things up or passing rumours off as fact.
Verstappen's F1 career is over. The Jordan team will be racing with two other drivers. Get over it! |
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I know we are all into speculation as we don't actually KNOW any of the fatcs behind the deal, or in reality what was in the contract between EJ and Trust/Jos.
But, aren't Jordan to receive $12M in a one off payment under the new SLEC/GPWC agreement, if you add that to the FIA payments for 2004,that must equal around $25M dollars. If you add Trust's alledged E8M, surely that is the basis of a workable budget before any B&H money and the budget from the 2nd driver? Whatever, looks a lot more than 3 races worth to me. |
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BTW folks, lets try and keep this one on the straight and level....bearing in mind Wrex's tolerance thread....
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27 Jan 2004, 20:35 (Ref:852813) | #63 | ||
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OK, maybe you are right, and Jos's career could be over, that leaves us with the question: why did'nt he sign the contract if not signing is the end of his career?
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not surprised it ended without a deal it was taking to long
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Can we keep the unsubstantiated allegations out of the thread, or we will have to close it.
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27 Jan 2004, 21:03 (Ref:852850) | #69 | ||
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That was'nt unsubstantiated, it's a well known fact(about the Jordan wing)
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27 Jan 2004, 21:08 (Ref:852859) | #71 | ||
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for 1, it's on Jos's own site and also on autosport.com
and Trust have never said anything about Christijan, you are confusing them with Wilux(who have said they would want to suport Christijan in F1 but only at Minardi) |
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The autosport sight merely states that Jordan has offered something. Of course that is the case. If Eddie needs to be offering something, because he needs to sell something. There lies an offer for over three months now, yet nor Trust nor Verstappen seem able to meet that offer. So, no deal. |
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Eddie, you are bending the facts............
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27 Jan 2004, 21:21 (Ref:852881) | #74 | |
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No I'm not. Im quoting a newsarticle in which Trust admits they have talks with Albers. Why would they if Albers wasnt of any interest for them? Albers is Dutch, is succesful at his game and is capable of luring thousands of fans to Zandvoort. This is huge potential.
As the offer is concerned, well, I think i was pretty clear on that one. |
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