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Old 1 Aug 2008, 01:25 (Ref:2261370)   #1
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Woo-Hoo!!! Hope it's true!

Posted on the ALMS board...I can't find confirmation tho':

"Mazda confirm Lola B08/80 coupe for B-K by PLM - autosport print ed.

http://www.mariantic.co.uk/lmp/

Not sure if this will put them in the Porsche/Acura league but they'll look great trying."


What will the livery be, if so?
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Old 1 Aug 2008, 01:30 (Ref:2261372)   #2
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Unless I am mistaken (which I could be), the Mazda program has been about looking good, rather then racing at the front, so this does make sense...plus we have seen that in the hands of Speedy/Sebah, the car is quick - so could be a good move on all fronts...
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Old 1 Aug 2008, 01:36 (Ref:2261374)   #3
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The Mazda program has been about not spending more money than they have, which is not a lot. Within the ALMS P2 class right now, well, that's really not good enough to run at the front. That said, they're making strides with their performance in concert with AER and, now, Dunlop. Buying a new coupe should help them step up another notch - but either Dunlop needs to raise their game or they'll be in arrears of the Michelin cars for the foreseeable future.
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Old 1 Aug 2008, 02:18 (Ref:2261383)   #4
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still wish the Rotary Mazda LMP engine was in it; what a majestic noise that thing made.

alas, here's to another fine looking Lola. hopefully a quick one to boot.
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Article over at Speed TV, HERE.


Larger version of Artist Impression HERE

expect it to be on a Spotters Guide near you later this year.LOL

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Old 1 Aug 2008, 06:23 (Ref:2261436)   #6
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Article over at Speed TV, HERE.


Larger version of Artist Impression HERE

expect it to be on a Spotters Guide near you later this year.LOL
Looks like there's a typo in the URL of the big photo.

Here's the correct one!

And it looks absolutely incredible Andy!
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Old 1 Aug 2008, 06:28 (Ref:2261438)   #7
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loads up fine now

Thanks Luckily, already had the base car drawn up from Le Mans and the livery from ALMS guide.
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loads up fine now

Thanks Luckily, already had the base car drawn up from Le Mans and the livery from ALMS guide.
So is that what we can expect to see? Or is that just your your speculation on how it'll look?
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its an artist impression from a brief given to me by Marshall, who had interviewed Mazda Msport boss, so not sure if they are going to change the livery for PLM. Would make sense to run the same design for continuity during the season IMHO.
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I know a guy who drove the Kruse-Schiller Mazda at Le Mans, and the engine is really, really good.

However, the chassis was shi.. After some japanese chose to bend it..

Happy to hear, that the latest Lola B08/80 at last found a home..
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I know a guy who drove the Kruse-Schiller Mazda at Le Mans, and the engine is really, really good.

However, the chassis was shi.. After some japanese chose to bend it..
You are talking about LeMans practise? So maybe KSM will buy the BK chassis?
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I would like to think so, the KSM chassis is seriously finished. Even after the ever vigilant last minute Lola repairs..
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Looks good!

Will we see the roofscoop removed, and a one sided periscope replace it?

Actually, forget I asked, of course not.

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Old 1 Aug 2008, 17:11 (Ref:2261752)   #15
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Looks good!

Will we see the roofscoop removed, and a one sided periscope replace it?

Actually, forget I asked, of course not.

Sorry
I think it's highly likely that the car will use a periscope intake seeing as the Mazda engine is turbocharged, so the turbocharger, intercooler etc will all be packaged low in the engine bay. Using a roofscoop just wouldn't make sense - see the intakes on the Peugeot 908.
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I think it's highly likely that the car will use a periscope intake seeing as the Mazda engine is turbocharged, so the turbocharger, intercooler etc will all be packaged low in the engine bay. Using a roofscoop just wouldn't make sense - see the intakes on the Peugeot 908.
I'd think with a lot more room in the engine compartment, they could use the scoop in the roof and forgo the snorkel.
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There would be room, but using the roof scoop the intake air would have to pass over the top of the engine, down around the exhaust manifold to the turbo and intercooler in the left sidepod, so already the charge air has been nicely heated before it reaches the turbo. It's then got to be ducted back over to the intake manifold on the other side of the engine. Having the scoop directly over the engine would also block access to the cylinder head, which isn't ideal when trying to fix an engine niggle in the middle of a race.

Surely it would be more logical to duct air directly into the turbo via a snorkel as on the current open chassis and keep the same basic engine bay layout, rather than starting again almost from scratch.
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There would be room, but using the roof scoop the intake air would have to pass over the top of the engine, down around the exhaust manifold to the turbo and intercooler in the left sidepod, so already the charge air has been nicely heated before it reaches the turbo. It's then got to be ducted back over to the intake manifold on the other side of the engine. Having the scoop directly over the engine would also block access to the cylinder head, which isn't ideal when trying to fix an engine niggle in the middle of a race.

Surely it would be more logical to duct air directly into the turbo via a snorkel as on the current open chassis and keep the same basic engine bay layout, rather than starting again almost from scratch.
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Although Bentley moved to snorkels after that, so perhaps it's the way to go on turbocharger cars.
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Although Bentley moved to snorkels after that, so perhaps it's the way to go on turbocharger cars.
yep--with the diminuituve size of the MZR-R, they'd have plenty of overhead space if they wanted to retain the roof-fed inlets.

compared to the Aston or Speedy cars, they'd have tons of room.




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Old 3 Aug 2008, 00:22 (Ref:2262348)   #21
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Doesn't look like a rotary to me....

But great looking car
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Old 3 Aug 2008, 01:52 (Ref:2262369)   #22
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Doesn't look like a rotary to me....

But great looking car
who said anything about a rotary?
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With permission from John Doonan of Mazda, we've been able to publish an official render of the B-K's new Lola B08/80. Full story here:

http://www.trackbytes.com/feature-ne...of-choice.html
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That rendering shows both side snorkels and the roof scoops? Or are those the rear brake ducts? Either way its a pretty sharp looking proto
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