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16 Dec 2008, 09:45 (Ref:2355840) | #1 | ||
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Formula 4 2009 Dates
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Apr 13th - double header - Castle Coombe Apr 25th - single header - Brands Hatch Jun 6/7th - double header - Anglesey Jun 21st - double header - Brands Hatch July 11th - double header - Cadwell Park Aug 23rd - single header - Silverstone Sep 5th - double header - Oulton Park Sep 20th - double header - Donnington Park All double header rounds to feature reversed grids for the top 8 in race 2. Exclusive F4 only tests to be arranged for the BH, Anglesey, Cadwell, Silverstone and Oulton Park meetings - usually on the Friday afternoon. Garages - where applicable - at all meetings. Looks a very good split of decent tracks/single day events/double headers. Any idea on who is doing it yet?? Any 8v FRenault drivers making the shift across?? |
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16 Dec 2008, 16:29 (Ref:2356213) | #3 | ||
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I would guess it is a little too early to tell. Most of last years Championship will be back with about 4 new faces that I know of. But until registration opens it is anyones guess.
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16 Dec 2008, 20:29 (Ref:2356378) | #4 | |
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I will be there in my 8v renault I am really looking forward to trying out my car once I have finsihed rebuilding it! Look forward to meeting you all! It is going to be a long time till April.
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18 Dec 2008, 21:01 (Ref:2357910) | #6 | |
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Whats the car to win in f4 as looking at it for 09 would u do season under 65k
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Can do a season for less than £10K run the car yourself second hand tyres no crashes etc But if you want to run with a team new tyres every race and lots of testing could more than triple that I guess. Speak to Jez (JNWRF01) and Chris (Redracer77) sure they will PM you! Or PM me for advice as I have nothing to sell Last edited by Triple J Motorsport; 19 Dec 2008 at 10:08. |
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19 Dec 2008, 10:31 (Ref:2358132) | #8 | ||
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If you spent £65k in F4 you are mad. Running with a team expect to pay £25k to £35k with testing all in.
Call Edginton Racing - 01460 221144 or maybe Peter Allen would run you in his? |
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Single header a Brands. Thats a long way for some people to go for one race. Plus its not my favourite track either!!!!
Rest of the season looks really good though. Great mix of tracks. |
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22 Dec 2008, 19:42 (Ref:2359845) | #12 | |
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For 65k you could do FPA and get some real media exposure or for less you could do a season of BRSCC F3 and drive the best single seaters available at club level. If you wanted a pro season you could talk to F Ford teams or maybe some FR teams. With the credit crunch some teams might be offering drives cheaper than in the past. Call John Booth at Manor M/sport, all he can do is say NO.
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23 Dec 2008, 06:55 (Ref:2360038) | #13 | ||
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John Booth hasn't/doesn't run FRenaults (and hasn't for a few years).... Tony Shaw is your man...but even then you are £100k short. FPA - I think you'll need more cash - after insurance and VAT...
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23 Dec 2008, 10:32 (Ref:2360080) | #14 | ||
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What would be needed to convert a Mono spec F3 to run in Formula 4?
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An 1800 Zetec engine, 4 speed gearbox, Avon spec tyres?
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Not sure on teh gearbox issue - There is a Dallara (I think a mid 90s one) in F4 - was built by Mark Bailey I believe....he will know the deets. Certainly the FRens have 5 sp 'boxes
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23 Dec 2008, 13:19 (Ref:2360167) | #17 | |
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Ok guys this is how i see it, i would want to spend the money and have a proper job done on my car im not the kind of driver that like,s having wings/engines failing thats just a waste of cash in my mind trying to run a car on the cheap has never worked out i dont see how doing it for 20/30K is poss .Also thanks for the pms everyone and advice i will buy a car in new year as would like to get the cobb webbs off again,also what tryes are u guys running/aloud
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One of the things that F4 and Mono 2000 need to work on is similar engine regs. There are so many races that I fancied doing but didnt see the point in racing the Mono spec cars and I guess that would be the same for Mono guys. It would make sence in the future if the pool of cars was bigger as it would help both championships
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This is what you should spend to do it properly.
Tyres (1 set a meeting) £6k Entries and test fees £6k Consumables (I allowed £300ish a weekend on average) £4k Transport £2000 Labour £8k Premises £2k Engine/dampes/G'Box/Logger rebuids £3k You need to prob replace the floor/front wings halfway thro season - so allow £1k. Add in a £5k damage fund is prob prudent I get that £32k to it properly - with a few pre-season tests and a test per race. Obv this assumes you own your own car. I think Absolute/Edington/Barry Pomfret would prob tack on a few more ££s for a rental deal. If you are quick - I may rent you my car ! Just FYI - I did the season on 4 sets of tyres (6 test days and 14 races) - so you can do it for a lot less if you want to. |
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you know me - i don;t like it when the tyres get dirty
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Bit quiet on the mna front today then Jez?!
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To throw a spanner in to the works here - for £65k you could do a season in British formula ford (scholarship), BRSCC F3, National Formula Ford etc. etc. and on that money a 'reasonable' driver should be able to get top 3 in the championship. Personally - I'd rather do that than F4. Not intentionally knocking F4, I would just consider these to be more competitive championships.
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