2 Warm Up Laps

[Crash Test]

Super Tourers have been doing since the findings of the Gregg Hansford accident were handed down, especially with front wheel drive cars in consideration, making sure they have enough pressure in their tyres at the start of the race.

Now today Cameron McConville was rolled after a concertina at the first corner. Do you think he his tyres were up to temperature, he would have had a better chance of staying on the black and green and yellow, rather than the blue?

Also, remember back to 1999 at Calder and Craig Lowndes- uninflated tyres were to blame for his up and over and over.

Is this a possible solution, or am I just worrying about something that isn't a problem?

[V8insider]

I have just came back from sandown and what happened today was just a servre case of WRONG PLACE, WRONG TIME. Sure the tyres may not of helped the cause but they are not to blame. We have tested 2 laps of warming up tyres on a test day and u only increase pressures by about another 2 to 3 PSI. Not enough to realy matter. I know that people dont like seeing this caliber of accident but if u take that element out of racing fan numbers will surely decrease.

On another note that Lansvale car of McConvilles has had a SH**HOUSE last couple of rounds. Rolling at Winton, Brake failure at Nu Zooland and now this.

[marcus]

I dont think cold tires had anything to do with it..it was just a bad angle of contact and I lay the blame solely on Rodney Forbes...when the heck are cams goona ban this guy before he does something that causes someone a serious injury.

anyway an extra warm up lap may or may not help im not of this ..but it does annoy the fans at the track thats for sure and really thats part of the art of driving ..cold tires are very squirmy and if you can get an advantage over the next bloke who is still wheelspinning then you have done the job right.

I still think Rodney should be banned for his crazy driving..4 abreast that was never gonna work.

[Crash Test]

I think what ticks the fans off more is the 15 mins downtime before every race when cars trickle out onto the track and have the Supercheap girls rollerblade around them....ok, i only ticks off those who aren't on the grid with them

[RaceTime]

Whether they get one or two laps isn;t going to really help this sort of situation - if you look at the high shots of the accident he clearly got tapped by at least one car (possibly two and was off the bitumen when he started rolling. In this particular instance I think it can be said the angle he left the track coupled with the transition from a grass surface to kitty litter - if I remember correctly that particular area of the track doesn't blend/slope gradually into the kitty litter it is a sudden stop, so the wheels tend to drop into the gravel.

The other side of this is the way in which AVESCo and CAMS in particular are trying to make the V8 SoupCars something they are not - Formula 1. F1 have - what its it? 30 minutes? on the grid before a race. V8's are trying to do the same -

There is one big difference between them that AVESCO are forgetting - F1 have a SINGLE race on race day - thus their preparations on the grid can be forgiven - but V8's have 2 to 3 races on a daya and they are cutting out what race fans also want to see - value for money.

It won't be long before AVESCO decide they are big enough to be the only category on the race program - so then they won't be able to blame any one else for race delays...

[Morris 1100]

How smart is Cameron McConville going into turn 1 on the outside of Spinner Forbes, Crasher Remano and Lucky Larkham, oh yeah like thats gonna work!
Or look at it another way if McConville wasn't there what would Larkham have hit!
Tim loves championship starts he wants every race to have a championship start!

[RaceTime]

Schenken love championship starts? That's only because he could never start in them himself.

The problem with people like Schenken and a few others that like these so-called championship starts - they have never had to sit track side and watch the cars come out of pit lane, go around the circuit and then get formed up on the grid only to have someone wave a green flag at them, let them go around the circuit AGAIN and then have those same people try and place them in their correct positions on the grid AGAIN!

10 minutes wasted for each of these races.....

[Morris 1100]

Why do the Best drivers in the country need grid marshals to help them find where they were parked a minute ago! How do they find their cars in the carpark?

[Crash Test]

They don't...if they are anything like a certain Queensland driver they'd fly their helicopter to the track

[DAVID PATERSON]

Championship starts bore me to tears, what a waste of time.

[Buckshot]

Um...what is a championship start ?

[RaceTime]

A so-called championship start is when the cars are brought out onto the race track well ahead of the scheduled start time and team member, tight lycra outfits etc all mill around the cars making the grid look like Pitt Street.

A 5 minute board is then displayed which is supposed to immediately clear the grid (hah!!!) followed by 3, 2 and 1 minute boards and then a green flag. All cars then go on their warm-up lap and come back around to the grid and get gridded again. The start then recommences and a 10 sec to go signal is given then the event starts.

It is all the hoopla on the grid that stuffs things up - V8's are now allocating something lilke 30 minutes for this.

[Buckshot]

Oh I like those...Now I have a decent camera with a zoom lens I like having those lycra clad bimbos standing around.

[RaceTime]

Originally posted by Buckshot
Oh I like those...Now I have a decent camera with a zoom lens I like having those lycra clad bimbos standing around.

Pervert!


(Got any pics I can check out? )

[elephino]

Back from Sandown...

The grid was cleared at the 2 minute board.

As for the first corner, I was on the straight before the corner and couldn't see much really. But from photos and other people's observations, Rodney went too fast up the inside then either moved over or clipped the inside grass, where it cuts back in and narrows the straight, and into Romano who went into Larko who knocked Cam, who went over. Motorsport News should, hopefully, run a nice set of pics taken by Dirk (someone's going to ask me how to spell his surname now, but I'm too tired).

Anything else?

[Crash Test]

Klynsmith??

Im the world champion at being the last to clear the grid. At the start of the day you can generally do 2 interviews on the grid...but by the end, when everyone is pushing for time, you're lucky to do one..

[Buckshot]

Any pics...yeah...perhaps we should dedicated a whole new thread to Grid Girl shots. Both those you've found off the net and taken yourself.

[elephino]

Crash, that's the one and they did make it in. He said he wasn't going to be very happy if they didn't. Mind you, it wasn't in those words.

[Crash Test]

Ah good old Dirk, he certainly told the marshals where to stick it at Indy

[kristof14]

Originally posted by Buckshot
Any pics...yeah...perhaps we should dedicated a whole new thread to Grid Girl shots. Both those you've found off the net and taken yourself.

can this be from any motorsport????

therve been some good grid girls at bike races this year!