The Montoya Monster vs ?

Splatz the Cow · 31 Jan 2002, 21:31 (Ref:207761)

We all know Montoya is a great driver, brilliant at passing, and has more balls than a golf course, but who out of the current crop of drivers (2001 & 2002), would you like to see him duel it out with on the track.

My vote goes to a guy I only see when the camera crosses to the pits, for reutine and not-reutine stops, or when oil smoke plumes across the track and stands (again), or when looking at his car trying to picture the faulty gearbox (again). A guy who spends his career now at the back of the grid, (will it ever change,) yet is kept by the team because he is so terrific in a car when compared to many others in and out of F1. My vote goes to former World Drivers Champion Jacques Villeneuve.

Who would you like to see this year go lap after lap with Montoya?

Speedworx · 31 Jan 2002, 21:47 (Ref:207789)

Kimi Raikkonen - to prove that he is better than Montoya.

Mark F1 · 31 Jan 2002, 21:50 (Ref:207796)

Nice question .....

There's a few drivers that I'd like Montoya to have a lap after lap battle with but if I had to choose one it would have to be Ralf. Then we would be able to see if Ralf cracks under the pressure of having to live with Montoya. Just imagine the two of them battling it out up front for 30 laps or so, pure heaven. Also, just think what uproar their would be if they took each other out !!!!!

Valve Bounce · 31 Jan 2002, 22:10 (Ref:207836)

To be realistic, when JPM is on song, then MSch will be the only driver up there for him to duel with.

Damon · 31 Jan 2002, 22:12 (Ref:207838)

Splatz I agree. JV vs JPM would be fantastic, he's wasted at BAR, only hope a gets one more shot in a competitive car before he retires.

neilap · 31 Jan 2002, 22:15 (Ref:207843)

My response will be the expected one, MS. The reason for this is that MS has all of Ferrari behind him. If JPM can fight the good fight and win some it will show that he is not as good, as good or better than TGF. Michael is the man to beat besides his team mate who I feel the is already better than.
I do feel though that JV would be the best to fight against because they do drive similarly and neither will budge. JPM might be harder to pass though IMO.

facco · 31 Jan 2002, 22:24 (Ref:207855)

ok, we can select duels "a la carte"

MORE OF JPM VS TGF
JPM vs JV

JPM vs *any leader of the race.....

It's great to departure first but greatest to get to the first place by passing.

JPM vs Ralf Will it happen?

nreed · 31 Jan 2002, 22:24 (Ref:207856)

jv vs. jpm would be trully great but we know about the car situation

ms vs. jpm will be good to see because michael needs to realize he's not invincable

jpm vs. ralf will be a good team battle like senna/prost, mansell/piquet of the past

as far as kimi goes i dont see him as much of a battler

if ruebens gets the chance he'll challenge him, but on one really likes to pump up ruebens as he's schumis sidekick

sleeper----i bet fisi's gonna surprise everyone this year, he's an aggressive driver and we'll see something good from him this year

neilap · 31 Jan 2002, 23:22 (Ref:207894)

GF was pretty impressive at Spa. I do hope that he gets a car that is at least competitive.

Alan Jones · 31 Jan 2002, 23:42 (Ref:207902)

Quote:

Originally posted by facco
ok, we can select duels "a la carte"

MORE OF JPM VS TGF
JPM vs JV

JPM vs *any leader of the race..... It's great to departure first but greatest to get to the first place by passing.

JPM vs Ralf Will it happen?

well said Fanny

red5 · 31 Jan 2002, 23:43 (Ref:207904)

No matter who leads the race, he can see JPM in his mirrors.

RT · 1 Feb 2002, 01:24 (Ref:207958)

I assume the idea is a duel of risky passing, late braking, intimidation and other such antics.

Not Kimi because he won't play Juan's mind games. Kimi will either disappear into the distance or wait for Juan to collect the gravel. Kimi is about speed, brains and determination.

Not Schumi because he'll destroy Juan with racing strategy. (The grid has several also rans who have passed Michael Schumacher in "ballsy" manouvers. They all can treasure their memories as M.S. continues to collect the wins and WC's)

JV is in the same ballpark of racing strategy as Juan. I don't expect Juan to be that good and I don't expect Jacques to be that far behind. We'll probably see more than a few memorable fights with those two....on and off the race tracks.

senna12 · 1 Feb 2002, 04:20 (Ref:208008)

Many pundits obviously feel that Juan cannot, or will not, learn temperance, and will risk the manoeuver regardless of the odds. This is to doubt his ability to learn how to properly drive an F1 car, which is not about going balls out all the time and risking the car trying dangerous overtaking moves, which he did, I suppose, in order to send a message during the first half of last season.(That message?? "I'm just figuring this gig out guys, be patient!")
Michael has had 10 years, many with unlimited and total team support, to hone his racing strategy. Juan is a sophomore. If the Williams is reliable, he can do it.
If the Jordan is quick, Fisi could too, but this is unlikely, as is JV. Ralf I'm not sure, he likes to do his passing in the pits, and Juan has him spooked. The Macs will be too busy fighting each other and thinking about Ferrari to fight with JP. Will anyone else be quick enough?

Don K · 1 Feb 2002, 06:57 (Ref:208036)

Heidfeld, Trulli and Fisichella.
Montoya drives the better car. So he'll have to beat them again if he wants to be a future champion.

Barrichello.
If Barrichello beats him again, Montoya probably won't dominate the next decade.

Raikkonen.
If Kimi beats him in his first year at McLaren, it will be very difficult for JPM to dominate him in the future.

Ralf and David.
He'll have to be closer to them than last year, if he ever wants to be a champion. He doesn't have to beat the this year, but he will have to chalenge them.

Michael.
If Montoya is as good as most people on this forum think he is, he should be a lot closer to Michael than he was last year. I think he should be able to get at least 40% of the points that Michael will get this year.

Mr V · 1 Feb 2002, 07:01 (Ref:208037)

Quote:

Originally posted by red5
No matter who leads the race, he can see JPM in his mirrors.

i reckon jpm will have the others in his mirrors, not the other way round! looking forward to the day that it's jpm vs kimi vs jenson at the front of the field.

av8rirl · 1 Feb 2002, 13:20 (Ref:208132)

As an aside, the new Williams doesn't appear to be going great. Engine is good but the chassis is not as good as last years.

Montoya v Senna or Mansella would have been good. Of todays crop, JV (and maybe The Swerve or Jos) seems to have the same balls out style. But they'll be nowhere near.

BBKing · 1 Feb 2002, 13:23 (Ref:208134)

Quote:

Originally posted by RT
Not Schumi because he'll destroy Juan with racing strategy. (The grid has several also rans who have passed Michael Schumacher in "ballsy" manouvers. They all can treasure their memories as M.S. continues to collect the wins and WC's)

We are talking a man to man battle not man to team (including 3 slaves in the track) in which case Schumacher has a better chance because he is the only one who has that.

[quote]If Barrichello beats Montoya again[/quote}...LOL

I think between Formula Juan and Villeneuve would win all the races in the season for Williams. (OK probably except the races where they would take each other out.. 2 or 3....LOL) That would be fun.

bluefeather · 1 Feb 2002, 13:32 (Ref:208143)

In order to run with Jacque V. Juan M. will need a car that rides like a buckboard.

That way he can be at the back of the pack. If he races with Lil' Shu, they run the risk of being the Paul Tracy & Dario of F1.
My choice? I'd like to see Juan and David battle for the championship.

Mr V · 1 Feb 2002, 18:45 (Ref:208264)

Quote:

Originally posted by bluefeather
My choice? I'd like to see Juan and David battle for the championship.

i think all jpm supporters would like to see this battle for 2 reasons:-

a. jpm would win hands down.
b. if jpm does win and he's "like a little teddy bear", what would that make dc??.................ZIPPY!!!

SILVERS95 · 2 Feb 2002, 16:40 (Ref:208976)

Mr V .you crack me up !!!....

The one driver that i would like to see JPM go head to head with , would be Sato !..THEY GUY JUST CANNOT TAKE LOSING , which puts him in the same kind of catagory as Montoya.....If Sato can hack it in F1 ( which i think he can ) him and montoya going against each other lap after lap would be very conjuiceive !

Splatz the Cow · 2 Feb 2002, 17:15 (Ref:208994)

Well I must say your responses surprised me because I didn't think the leader to this thread would be taken in the realistic context that it has. It's purely intended as fantasy and I guess theres no right or wrong answers for this one. I just wanted to indulge a bit and share my ideas of a great F1 tussle. Obviously Webber challenging JPM is an unrealistic expectation in reality, because his car is not nearly competitive, but put him in a Ferrari, Williams, or McLaren? Or change him for Kimi or Fisi or Alesi? Now maybe you see the fun of the hypothetical.

I'm also surprised no one mentioned Mika as he was involved in some of the best stuff in 2001 that we've seen in years. On his day he's unstopable.

Hey Silver-man, I agree with you about Sato. The things I've heard, seen, and read about him make me think he'll be a title contender of the future (in a top three car.) He's one crazy dude.

SILVERS95 · 3 Feb 2002, 11:03 (Ref:209491)

he is that for sure !...it goes flat out all the time looking for a win....he will obviously have to calm down abit to suceed in F1 , but he's a very simular character to the mighty JPM... if he gets a some good machinery in the future , i can see him and Montoya making F1 exciting again !

Mr V · 3 Feb 2002, 23:55 (Ref:209904)

Quote:

Originally posted by SILVERS95
he is that for sure !...it goes flat out all the time looking for a win....he will obviously have to calm down abit to suceed in F1 , but he's a very simular character to the mighty JPM... if he gets a some good machinery in the future , i can see him and Montoya making F1 exciting again !

silvers fella, you have a real hard on for this SATO guy, i hope for your sake that he's as good as you make him out to be, otherwise you're gonna be one un-happy dude this season!

Champ69 · 4 Feb 2002, 01:11 (Ref:209929)

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