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Old 9 Apr 2002, 10:08 (Ref:255427)   #1
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BennyBoy1978 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
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Nice result at silverstone yesterday well done! Could make for an intresting round at Donnington would be nice to see him on the podium
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Old 9 Apr 2002, 11:02 (Ref:255478)   #2
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Erm - Look at the Lap by Lap figures he managed a single flyer - his was consistantly well off the pace he must have cut a corner somewhere or been running a light car!
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Old 9 Apr 2002, 11:11 (Ref:255489)   #3
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where can I get lap by lap figures from?

ok so it may only have been one flyer as you put it but his still a local driver so he gets my support
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Old 9 Apr 2002, 11:14 (Ref:255492)   #4
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mstworld.com then click on the F3 tests
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Old 9 Apr 2002, 11:24 (Ref:255501)   #5
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hm... always the doubter eh Noel?
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Old 9 Apr 2002, 11:24 (Ref:255503)   #6
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cheers just had a look but doesn't seem to make much sense
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Old 9 Apr 2002, 11:27 (Ref:255508)   #7
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I guess his fastest lap time does stick out a little but couldn't there be a reason for this apart from cutting across a corner?
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Old 9 Apr 2002, 11:31 (Ref:255513)   #8
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Click here --> http://www.mst-group.co.uk/powertour...s/21528bf3.pdf
For the times, and go to Page 6. Mark Taylor's lap times, including all the sectors, are listed there.
Or you can check them out below:

3 Mark TAYLOR GBR Dallara F302 Mugen-Honda
1 - 128.3 X:00.000
2 - 128.5 1:22.821
3 - 34.921 137.5 45.936 128.5 1:20.857
4 - 34.576 136.9 45.878 129.3 1:20.454
5 - 34.332 137.7 46.166 130.0 1:20.498
6 - X:00.000 136.3 50.713 128.8 X:00.000
7 - 34.373 137.5 45.396 129.5 1:19.769
8 - 33.819 138.0 45.023 128.8 1:18.842
9 - 8:02.750 138.0 45.491 128.8 X:00.000
10 - 33.723 138.0 44.595 128.8 1:18.318
11 - 33.373 137.7 44.562 129.0 1:17.935
12 - 33.173 138.9 44.350 129.8 1:17.523
13 - 32.980 137.2 44.404 129.5 1:17.384
14 - 32.930 137.7 44.507 129.0 1:17.437
15 - 32.876 138.3 44.139 129.0 1:17.015
16 - 33.006 137.7 44.219 128.8 1:17.225
17 - 32.816 138.3 44.215 129.5 1:17.031
18 - X:00.000 138.3 46.083 129.5 X:00.000
19 - 33.483 138.3 44.374 130.0 1:17.857
20 - 33.303 138.6 44.863 129.5 1:18.166
21 - 33.086 138.6 44.271 130.0 1:17.357
22 - 33.005 137.5 43.981 129.8 1:16.986
23 - 32.820 138.0 44.799 128.3 1:17.619
24 - 32.885 138.9 43.975 129.3 1:16.860
25 - 32.835 138.3 43.911 129.3 1:16.746
26 - X:00.000 129.5 47.797 129.0 X:00.000
27 - 34.000 137.7 45.233 130.0 1:19.233
28 - 33.070 138.3 44.343 129.5 1:17.413
29 - 32.814 138.6 44.015 129.3 1:16.829
30 - 7:21.194 138.0 44.577 129.3 X:00.000
31 - 32.775 138.9 44.208 129.3 1:16.983
32 - 32.876 138.3 44.112 130.5 1:16.988
33 - 32.809 140.3 43.720 130.3 1:16.529
34 - 32.695 138.9 43.485 130.3 1:16.180
35 - 32.840 138.3 43.855 129.0 1:16.695
36 - 32.806 138.3 43.709 129.8 1:16.515
37 - 32.573 138.9 43.864 129.8 1:16.437
38 - 32.544 139.5 43.880 130.8 1:16.424
39 - X:00.000 137.2 45.191 128.8 X:00.000
40 - 33.021 137.5 44.157 129.3 1:17.178
41 - 9:00.011 137.7 44.150 129.5 X:00.000
42 - 32.802 138.9 44.929 129.8 1:17.731
43 - 32.628 138.6 44.095 130.3 1:16.723
44 - 32.640 138.3 43.563 129.8 1:16.203
45 - 32.878 140.6 44.099 130.3 1:16.977
46 - 32.494 138.3 43.767 131.3 1:16.261
47 - X:00.000 137.2 45.453 129.8 X:00.000
48 - 33.406 138.3 44.189 130.3 1:17.595
49 - 32.876 138.9 43.745 130.5 1:16.621
50 - 32.739 139.2 43.633 129.8 1:16.372
51 - 32.350 139.2 43.220 131.0 1:15.570
52 - 32.699 138.9 43.413 129.3 1:16.112
53 - 32.737 138.3 43.369 129.5 1:16.106
54 - 32.579 138.3 43.991 130.8 1:16.570
55 - 32.960 138.9 43.799 130.3 1:16.759

I think it's first sector time, first sector speed trap, second sector time, second sector speed trap, lap time.
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Old 9 Apr 2002, 11:33 (Ref:255516)   #9
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His next best lap after the fastest was a 1:16.106 which would have put him second by 0.003s. Although it might have been just one fantastic lap, it's still competitive.
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Old 9 Apr 2002, 12:03 (Ref:255540)   #10
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rlinter... if you were there which i doubt you were, then you would have seen MT was quickest before he put in that stunning lap, what exactly is your problem?????
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Old 9 Apr 2002, 12:17 (Ref:255555)   #11
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his probably just one of those, I could have done better then that types, they all sound the same.

"I would have been better but I never got the backing and didn't have the money" ahh the hard done by in this world theres so many of them
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Old 9 Apr 2002, 12:32 (Ref:255570)   #12
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Who was Stephen Kane driving for in the Scholarship class? Was Brusatin in the second Menu car? I can't see a time for him...
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Old 9 Apr 2002, 12:45 (Ref:255587)   #13
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I think Kane was in a Performance Racing car and Brusatin wasn't out because of the amount of crash damage he had at Brands Hatch on Monday.
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Old 9 Apr 2002, 13:02 (Ref:255607)   #14
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Old 9 Apr 2002, 13:22 (Ref:255628)   #15
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Hayes & Nadin are testing for their season in French F3. Kane was in the second performance racing machine (Scholarship), as they have one driver still missing, so has Fred Goddard which Turk, Jason Tahinci was testing.
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Old 9 Apr 2002, 16:38 (Ref:255755)   #16
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Mark has always been capable of putting in the odd quick time.
I was there, and can tell you that one of the reasons for Mark being consistently near the front is that he ran 3 sets of new tyres.

but like others I am slightly sceptical of that one flyer, could be a "sponsor special" run.
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Old 9 Apr 2002, 16:43 (Ref:255760)   #17
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whats a sponsor special when its at home?

didn't he do a few more laps after the flyer so surely he couldn't have been running that low a fuel level as someone has suggested
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Old 9 Apr 2002, 18:31 (Ref:255853)   #18
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rlinter... if you were there which i doubt you were, then you would have seen MT was quickest before he put in that stunning lap, what exactly is your problem?????
You doubt I was there - Erm... Sorry but I was there - I nearly got roasted by the fire behind pit 4a.....

MT was as Sid so rightly put it on a single lap sponsor special.

And considering there was oil on the tracl left over from the previous track activites his 'stunner' was at best lucky but more likely something to do with the 3 sets of new rubber and some technical tweak.

The point is and I would make it about any driver is that in F3 no-one should be able to pull out over 5/10 like that. Those skeptics amongst us would all love to be proven wrong however it is rarely the case.

had he progessively built the gap then it would have been credible.

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Old 9 Apr 2002, 20:40 (Ref:255974)   #19
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Does that mean that no one else had new sets of tyres??? As we all know Manor are a very good team is it possible they have found a slight advantage at silverstone??

Anyway, good luck to him, its good to see the championship is as competitive as it is!
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Old 10 Apr 2002, 08:51 (Ref:256206)   #20
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I remember reading in a previous thread that everyone thinks that people should start getting behind home talent, and as soon as someone does ickle people come out of the wood work and have bad things to say about them, I wish people would stop being such idiots and realise that some of these guys have a rare talent and we should support them for that and not put them down when every they do something.

So what if it was a so called sponsor special like a few people have said, it doesn't take anything away from his talent and honestly hands up who would do one of these specials if it meant getting a little extra money to do something you love.
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Old 10 Apr 2002, 10:17 (Ref:256242)   #21
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In some ways I quite agree BennyBoy, but as has been said before, generally, unless someone is consistently at the top, not too much should be read into testing times, there is no scrutineering, so no proof of cars being ballasted to full weight, or of all other performance restricting measures being fully in place.

Sponsor specials are often seen in testing, put the car in a quick, but possibly not quite kosher state to impress potential sponsors.
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Old 10 Apr 2002, 10:25 (Ref:256246)   #22
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I agree with the three posts above!
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Old 10 Apr 2002, 10:45 (Ref:256262)   #23
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ok well now I know not to take testing times at face value, but that still doesn't take anything away from the fact that Mark is a talented guy hell to be at this level is an achievement by any standards but considering he didn't do any racing whilst studying means get this far in 4 years spells out the fact his TALENTED.

I mean to finish 2nd in the FF championship in 99 and then win the european FF championship you have to be more then just good
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Old 10 Apr 2002, 14:24 (Ref:256494)   #24
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F3 is not F1, the cars can not carry enough fuel for a big advantage from low fuel levels, some yes but not a great deal.
Tyres, yes there is an advantage from new, but tell me who didn't have new tyres on the test, you still hav to be pretty good to get the time out of new tyres properly.
Sponsor special? does MT desperately need a sponsor? I don't think he struggles for finance.
He clearly can produce the times on his day as can his Team and has done so in other Formulas.
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