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9 Jul 2002, 15:13 (Ref:330257)
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Al Jr Arrested!
http://www.indystar.com/article.php?alunserpm0709.html
so sad  and a comment from the Motorsport.com (CART)forum... CART ---> IRL/RV-Trailer Park -----> Lockup  will we ever see him race again? |
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9 Jul 2002, 15:50 (Ref:330270)
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You beat me to it, gtr69.
http://sports.excite.com/news/07092002/v1830.html Al has some issues to deal with. Apparently this type of thing led to his divorce from Shelley (I believe that was his wife's name...). He should lose his drive for this. Last edited by senna12; 9 Jul 2002 at 15:51. |
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9 Jul 2002, 16:16 (Ref:330291)
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Yep, Mr. George is getting value for his money here.
 Mr. Junior needs to get into rehab and get counseling. There are enough dangerous drivers in that league without him being paid to be their role model! |
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9 Jul 2002, 17:05 (Ref:330321)
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Shouldn't this be in the other racing open-wheel forum?
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9 Jul 2002, 17:34 (Ref:330344)
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Al "Coholic" Unser Jr.
I wonder if he had been busted for driving drunk if he would be banned from IRL and IROC competition? I would think that if you got busted for DUI you'd be banned from racing cars for a while. I hope Gil & Helio don't show up in jail with a marijuana bong in one hand while fisting a crippled dog with the other. Then we'll know that Tony George drives fans and drivers alike to desperate measures. IRL. Intoxicated Racing League.
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9 Jul 2002, 17:36 (Ref:330346)
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Rule Number One:
Never slap an aggitated drunk across the face with the back of your hand. It usually proves to be an ineffective way to diffuse a situation. You'd think that after four years, one might figure that out. |
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9 Jul 2002, 17:52 (Ref:330361)
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Sad to hear this from the two time CART champion....
Al Jr. is not well. Hasn't been for some time. |
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9 Jul 2002, 19:12 (Ref:330434)
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9 Jul 2002, 19:56 (Ref:330486)
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Whats happening to Little Al ? Top line drivers shouldnt be drinking to excess anyway .
Its a shame when you see people you admire losing their way on such a public stage. |
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9 Jul 2002, 20:39 (Ref:330510)
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Heres a copy of the arrest report courtesy of a member of another forum, including mug shot (very depressing). This is so very sad. He's been sliding downhill for quite a while & losing fans as a result, but this is just too low.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/alunser1.html Last edited by Dave S; 9 Jul 2002 at 20:41. |
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9 Jul 2002, 21:04 (Ref:330532)
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very depressing indeed
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9 Jul 2002, 23:02 (Ref:330613)
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Well if he does get severely punished, which he should do for beating his girlfriend, argument or no argument, then I have one thing to say, if you can't do the time then don't do the crime!
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10 Jul 2002, 01:30 (Ref:330673)
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He always raced dirty... Still, I'm suprised that _any_ Unser would sink _this_ low.
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10 Jul 2002, 01:43 (Ref:330678)
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This is very sad.
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10 Jul 2002, 01:59 (Ref:330683)
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yes it is a shame that such a great champion of the sport that we love has this side of life that we rarely associate with our heros.
Im not going to comment on the nature of the incident or his or her actions as I am not going to judge either of them , But I will say that i wish them a speedy recovery from all of this and hope that they can get things sorted and if Lil Al needs some form of help then I hope HE takes the first step and asks for the help that it seems that he needs. in the meantime I will focus on the things he has done on the racetrack and his driving ability for which he is a true legend. Get well soon junior 
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10 Jul 2002, 04:17 (Ref:330721)
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As Liz knows, I have been a member here for quite some time, though I don't post often & don't bash. This really saddens both my wife & myself more than you can know. We 1st saw Al in 82 when he ran Can-Am at Laguna (& won), then moved to ChampCar in 83. We always felt he was a class act in those days & were very big fans of his. Think of all the times he was knocked from a race & responded 'That's Racin'. Or his two thumbs up to Emmo at the Indy 500 when they ran together & he lost out. His Indy wins & Championships. To those of you relatively new to CART, he used to personify class & graciousness in the league of Emmo, Mears, etc. When he was given bad cars by Penske along with the numerous personal problems (his daughters illness, divorce, his lifestyle catching up with him) did he turn into a bitter, vindictive shell of his former self. 'Dirty Racer?' When & where? Give me a fellow racer who accused him of this. And when he was taken out he NEVER ranted as Mikey always seems to do. We've been discouraged by his downslide for quite some time now, but to kick him now & to ridicule him in his obvious bottom out is not only cruel, but downright wrong. Yes, he went to TG's series, sold his soul for money & made stupid comments. Yes, he is a hollow shell of his former self, but from his recent actions don't you all think that maybe he's (if even sub-consciously) crying for help? I'm sure he's longing for the adulation he used to have & never will again. It's HELL to realize we won't ever again be the young gun we once were. Yes, I hate TG, his series & all it stands for, plus TG's stated purpose of destroying CART. But to find pleasure in this once great racer's downfall is not only wrong, it's just plain mean. We only hope that Al can get the help he so much needs & can have a good life. He certainly gave both my wife & I much enjoyment before he fell from grace.
May God Bless & return him to some semblance of a productive life. Dave & Jeannie Sweatt |
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10 Jul 2002, 04:19 (Ref:330722)
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I don't mean those here, but other forums I visit are actually revelling in Al's troubles. Sorry if this insinuated otherwise.
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10 Jul 2002, 05:02 (Ref:330731)
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new article in indystar.com I'm REALLY saddened here.
http://www.indystar.com/article.php?krav10.html |
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10 Jul 2002, 05:59 (Ref:330744)
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You can call me a neanderthal, but anybody that hits somebody that is both angry and drunk deserves what they get. The result here was predictable. Hopping out of the car should have been the first thing she did, not the second.
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10 Jul 2002, 07:11 (Ref:330765)
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Dave S, you've paraphrased my thoughts very well. Arneal, you did too.
This could quite likely put an end to a brilliant career. (A career which did not include any dirty driving). Just ask Fuzzy Zoeller about what the sponsors are likely to do. The man is one of my favourite drivers of all time, and that is not about to change simply because of one moment of indiscretion. That's because I'm not going to pass judgement. It takes two to tango, and they were both in the bar drinking that night. Nobody knows how all this started or what was said, and by whom. All I know is that the "injuries" seem to be very minor, and that's about the only good news. Unser should claim self-defence anyway. Cops should have picked her up, too. My uncle has a drinking problem, and when he gets drunk he gets very ornery. But my aunt would never backhand him across the face when he's like that. I guess she's got something called "common sense". |
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10 Jul 2002, 07:26 (Ref:330778)
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Looks like a fun place. Wish I was there, only sitting at a different table...
http://www.classychassygogo.com/ |
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10 Jul 2002, 11:37 (Ref:330985)
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Al should be used as an example...
With racing as popular as it is today, and with more young drivers in the sport I'm surprised we don't see more of this. Being young, having fame, fortune and being on the road all the time you would think more guys would get into trouble than do. Al Unser Jr. had as much talent as anybody in his prime but he robbed himself of alot of great years and probably championships with his wild lifestyle. He was good in Champ cars and easily the best IROC driver to come from any open wheel series. His IRL stint hasn't been spectacular but he has won a few races. I think we saw Al get serious when it looked like there wasn't anyone left to hire him again. Now that he's been in that ride this season for awhile I believe that better opportunities were probably about ready to open up for him, especially with rumors of good CART teams moving to IRL without some of their drivers going with them. Now he's let himself down and cost himself, perhaps, his last shot at being a superstar driver again.
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10 Jul 2002, 14:03 (Ref:331103)
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It's amazing the things that you find out when a scandel like this happens, how he was deeply affected by missing the 500 in 1995, his family problems, cocaine addiction and so on, i guess it isn't really as surprising as it seemed when i first read about it, it also explains his form slump in CART between 1997-1999, then in the IRL in 2000-2002.
Whatever happens, lets hope that the woman gets back to full health, and Little Al is able to get his life back on track. |
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10 Jul 2002, 14:52 (Ref:331139)
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This is why I think getting really drunk is a bad idea... It is sad, and it's probably not something he would have done if sober or even less drunk.
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10 Jul 2002, 14:58 (Ref:331142)
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I agree Jay, it is bad enough when immature 20 year olds do it, but to see a grown man do it is pathetic.
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