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Old 17 Dec 2002, 14:36 (Ref:451856)   #1
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most dominant F1 race drive.....

ive watched 1992 British GP on tape...And although it wasnt the most exciting race , it has reminded me of just how good Mansell was when he was really pumped up . Although the guy had the best car in the field by a long way , he just demolished everyone in that race . He was lapping a couple of seconds qquicker than everyone , and still put in a lap record about 4 laps from the end .

so what the most dominant race you remember ?......Im sure Michael will get a few mentions here .........remember , most dominant drive , not best overtaking manouver or anything like that ....just a race where a driver absolultley left everyone else standing .
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Old 17 Dec 2002, 14:39 (Ref:451861)   #2
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One of the most recent ones (although not as dominating as Mansell) was McLaren at Australia 98. They were just one step ahead of everyone, lapping nearly (if not entirely) the whole field. Thing is, they spoiled it by fixing the result.
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Old 17 Dec 2002, 14:39 (Ref:451862)   #3
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That reminds me of one of Murray Walker's remarks- "Mansell ahs build himself a comfortable cushion, well actually its more of a lounge suite".

I got to say Donnington 1993, the greatest drive of Senna's life. In changable and often atrocious conditions, he blitzed everyone on the first lap then won by a whole lap. I was truly mesmerised by that, it was the day I became an F1 addict.
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Old 17 Dec 2002, 15:00 (Ref:451868)   #4
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There have been many dominant drives of course, but i'll plump for Damon Hill at Adelaide in 1995, finishing 2 laps ahead of Panis i believe.
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Old 17 Dec 2002, 15:09 (Ref:451870)   #5
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As Boots says, if you want the most dominent and maybe even the greatest drive ever in one then look no further than Donnington 1993.

As you say though Sato San, the 1992 British GP was also pretty special. And unlike today's dominent Ferrari drives, Mansell put in the quickest lap of that race just 3 laps from the end! Now that's what I call pasionate racing.
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Old 17 Dec 2002, 15:10 (Ref:451871)   #6
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There have been many dominant drives of course, but i'll plump for Damon Hill at Adelaide in 1995, finishing 2 laps ahead of Panis i believe.
Yeah, but that was down mainly to the fact that almost everyone else fell off and Panis had a smoking engine for the last 6 or 7 laps of the race!
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Old 17 Dec 2002, 16:17 (Ref:451891)   #7
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I'll have to give it up to Schumi... Monaco '97.
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Old 17 Dec 2002, 16:55 (Ref:451916)   #8
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Hakkinen in 98 at Melbourne, despite the fixed result. After his botched pit drive through he put in some blistering laps to make up lost ground on Coulthard, and showed that maybe McLaren were sandbagging
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Old 17 Dec 2002, 18:43 (Ref:451981)   #9
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Can I nominate Mika and Michael in the 1999 and 2000 Japanese GP. Their team mates didn't have problems, but that didn't stop both of them pulling away at about 1s per lap.

Oh and Senna and Prost at Spa in 1990. Similar deal.

Not quite total domination (couldn't shake the other one!) But in some ways made the rest look even sillier - It wasn't as if no one else could do it!
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Old 17 Dec 2002, 19:18 (Ref:452002)   #10
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Can I nominate Mika and Michael in the 1999 and 2000 Japanese GP. Their team mates didn't have problems, but that didn't stop both of them pulling away at about 1s per lap.
My first thoughts on this topic were of Senna at Donnington in '93, but the Mika and Michael battles you mention definitely deserve attention. Both drivers at the top of their game just running away from the field, team-mates and all. Everybody else in the field were subjected to being mere spectators as the two best drivers in F1 showed what true speed was. Brilliant stuff! I think I might just pull that tape out and enjoy it again. Thanks for the reminder Adam
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Old 17 Dec 2002, 19:52 (Ref:452027)   #11
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more recently it has 2 be Australia 98, as Chris Gray said they nearly lapped every1 and it was good 2 see the surprised reactions from the rest of the teams.... how times have changed in a few years. thats what helps 2 make F1 great
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Old 17 Dec 2002, 20:03 (Ref:452040)   #12
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Has to be 92 and Mansell who dominated all 3 sessions and then took pole with a time of 1.18.995, 2 seconds...yes 2 seconds quicker than Patrese in an identical car and three seconds quicker than Senna.
Mansell proved to his critics that it wasn't just the car that was quick.If Mansell had stayed for 93 at Williams Prost may well have not bothered turning up to save his credibility for the British GP!!
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Old 17 Dec 2002, 20:43 (Ref:452068)   #13
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In my book: (these were all in the wet and showed the differences between the champions and the boys):

1. Senna Donnington 1993
2. Schumacher Spa 1998
3. Schumacher Spain 1996
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Come on guys (myself included) what about F1 pre 1990?

How about Stewart at the Nurburgring 1968. He won by over 4 minutes.

Four minutes.
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Old 17 Dec 2002, 21:09 (Ref:452093)   #15
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Can I suggest team performaces? If so:

Williams at Hockenheim 2001
Ferrari at Nurburgring 2002
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Old 17 Dec 2002, 21:12 (Ref:452097)   #16
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As Boots says, if you want the most dominent and maybe even the greatest drive ever in one then look no further than Donnington 1993.

Senna himself said that he rekoned that Estoril 1985 and Suzuka 1988 were better drives from him. The main reason was because he had traction control at Donington 1993. Still a great drive though.
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Come on guys (myself included) what about F1 pre 1990?

How about Stewart at the Nurburgring 1968. He won by over 4 minutes.

Four minutes.

I agree but the thread title was: "the best drive U remember". As I was born in 1978 ...
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OK what about pre-2000

Senna's first win. Seemed to be the only one who could cope with the conditions.
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fair enough, let's hope some of the mature members join in!

But not 2 many old folks
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Senna at Donnigton (my last Grand Prix) was absoltuely fabulous, and whats more he did it in a dog of a car.

Fangio in 57 at the Nurnurgring was also a masterful drive.
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Senna himself said that he rekoned that Estoril 1985 and Suzuka 1988 were better drives from him. The main reason was because he had traction control at Donington 1993. Still a great drive though.
Senna would have had a point if nobody else had Traction Control, but they all had it, It's a shame that he felt this way about such a brilliant performance.
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Clark at Zandvoort in '67 would rank highly. Blew the competition away. Same thing with Team Lotus at Watkins Glen the same year.
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I got to say Donnington 1993, the greatest drive of Senna's life. In changable and often atrocious conditions, he blitzed everyone on the first lap then won by a whole lap. I was truly mesmerised by that, it was the day I became an F1 addict.
I agree Boots, this was the first race I thought of.

The Macs in Melbourne were in their own race, no doubt about it. Good to remember that if your unsure Ferrari's dominance will end.
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Had Senna not crashed at Monaco '88, that drive would be a contender.

Also Schumacher at Monaco, 1997.
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