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Old 20 Dec 2002, 00:55 (Ref:453870)   #1
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Mercedes or Posche's Return?

:confused: I was just wondering if anyone had any idea when Porsche would return to Le Mans? I have missed them very much. Also, I have found a new updated version of the CLK GTR, called the CLK GTR Super Sport, at supercars.net. Does anyone think Mercedes could ever come back too?
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Old 20 Dec 2002, 01:09 (Ref:453876)   #2
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Yes, Mercedes could return but we have to wait.... Be patient...
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Old 20 Dec 2002, 04:41 (Ref:453953)   #3
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I for one would be might suprised to see a Mercedes running at LeMans again, unless somehow it was built without factory blessing. Now, I appreciate that this Zonda is reported to have a Merc V12, but I'm referring to an actual Mercedes.

Porsche is rumoured to be looking at 2005 for their re-emergence.
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Old 20 Dec 2002, 07:32 (Ref:454021)   #4
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Mercdeds I can not see it happening for a long long time.........

and as for Porsche, 2005, hopefully..................
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Old 20 Dec 2002, 07:48 (Ref:454026)   #5
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They did build -25- of those CLK-GTRs. Interesting number.
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Old 20 Dec 2002, 08:25 (Ref:454039)   #6
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After the psychological pasting Mercedes have had at Le Mans recently, I would also be very surprised to see them back again until such time as they really know they can walk it......
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Old 20 Dec 2002, 08:57 (Ref:454057)   #7
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After the psychological pasting Mercedes have had at Le Mans recently, I would also be very surprised to see them back again until such time as they really know they can walk it......
...... as opposed to fly through the air backwards!
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Old 20 Dec 2002, 09:00 (Ref:454059)   #8
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Id heard that Porsche might be entering Le Mans and the FIA GT series in 2004. With the Porsche Carerra GT. Would be good to see them back in one of the bigger classess, although it would only be GTS not a LMP car which is a pity.
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Old 20 Dec 2002, 10:26 (Ref:454090)   #9
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Id heard that Porsche might be entering Le Mans and the FIA GT series in 2004. With the Porsche Carerra GT.
Are you talking about a privateer enter or Porsche factory team?

Porsche is looking at 2005 for their return not 2004.
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Old 20 Dec 2002, 13:15 (Ref:454190)   #10
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Id heard that Porsche might be entering Le Mans and the FIA GT series in 2004. With the Porsche Carerra GT. Would be good to see them back in one of the bigger classess, although it would only be GTS not a LMP car which is a pity.
According to Porsche officials, this would not be a 'Porsche' entry. I suppose a privateer though........
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Old 20 Dec 2002, 13:30 (Ref:454200)   #11
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According to Porsche officials, this would not be a 'Porsche' entry.
Darn. The GT1 were really great... hope they'll do something of that kind...
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Old 20 Dec 2002, 13:54 (Ref:454218)   #12
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I'd love to see Porsche bring any class of car to LeMans. As long as it doesn't in any way resemble a 911. Anything that even remotely looks like a 911 should get a weight penalty!
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Old 23 Dec 2002, 20:46 (Ref:456378)   #13
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i think that a porsche entry would really mix up the field and be a good publicity creator for le mans, i also think that a ferrari bid to win le mans again would be exciting if it were to happen but i havent heard anythin about this....
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Old 23 Dec 2002, 21:19 (Ref:456399)   #14
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Yeah, sorry it would be a privateer. Although u never know it may be a works supported car like the Freisnger team have, lets hope so!
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Old 23 Dec 2002, 22:39 (Ref:456453)   #15
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i think that a porsche entry would really mix up the field and be a good publicity creator for le mans, i also think that a ferrari bid to win le mans again would be exciting if it were to happen but i havent heard anythin about this....

I think most of us will share these thoughts lowie.
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Old 24 Dec 2002, 05:00 (Ref:456580)   #16
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Yep, unfortunately both Mercedes and Porsche are missing out, but look back five years and see their prototypes were so aerodynamically sensitive that they went up in the air and crashed.
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Old 24 Dec 2002, 07:55 (Ref:456635)   #17
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Unfortunatly I don't know anymore that is written here, but hopefully now that Porsche have finished their pointless 4x4 they can get back to where they belong.

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Old 24 Dec 2002, 09:42 (Ref:456656)   #18
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Yep, unfortunately both Mercedes and Porsche are missing out, but look back five years and see their prototypes were so aerodynamically sensitive that they went up in the air and crashed.

But you'd think with all their massive resources and technical know-how, they'd have solved that particular problem by now.
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Yep, unfortunately both Mercedes and Porsche are missing out, but look back five years and see their prototypes were so aerodynamically sensitive that they went up in the air and crashed.
The final Mercedes CLR LM had some issues, no questions, but I don't really believe that the Porsche 911 GT1 has issues really. It went over once, at Road Atlanta, and may have been more of a track issue then car, as you may recall the BMW LMR also went over there.

Think of the number of GT1's and the mileage they put on, without further rollovers.
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Old 2 Jan 2003, 11:17 (Ref:461917)   #21
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so what have you heard?
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There are beans to be spilled here, I think......
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From what i heard it would be a mid engined Mclaren with Mercedes power!
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To be a serious works contender it would need to have been testing before now. Anything that looked like a McLaren would be bound to have been seen.
A private project on the other hand would be possible if someone had the money, but why change from the well known BMW power unit?
BTW was a Mclaren not seen testing at silverstone a few months back? swiftly and very publicly denied as being anthing other than a shakedown from a rebuild..........
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