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Old 11 Sep 2003, 10:45 (Ref:714879)   #1
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2004 GP Calender

LONDON, Sept 11 (Reuters) - Calendar for the 2004 Formula
One Grand Prix motor racing world championship released by the
International Automobile Federation (FIA) on Thursday:
March 7 Australian GP, Melbourne
March 21 Malaysian GP, Sepang
April 4 *** Bahrain GP, Bahrain
April 25 European GP, Nuerburgring, Germany
May 9 Spanish GP, Barcelona
May 23 Monaco GP, Monaco
June 6 San Marino GP, Imola
June 20 U.S. GP, Indianapolis
July 4 British GP, Silverstone
July 11 * French GP, Magny-Cours
July 25 German GP, Hockenheim
August 15 Hungarian GP, Budapest
August 29 ** Belgian GP, Spa-Francorchamps
September 12 Italian GP, Monza
September 26 *** Chinese GP, Shanghai
October 10 Japanese GP, Suzuka
October 24 Brazilian GP, Sao Paulo
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** Subject to tobacco law
*** Subject to circuit aproval
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Old 11 Sep 2003, 10:57 (Ref:714885)   #2
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Let's hope the Bahrein and the Chinese gp while get the aproval it's nice to see some new race tracks.And the Brazilian GP is a suprise that it's wile be the final race off the season.And it's nice to see Spa-Francochamps back on the calender
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Old 11 Sep 2003, 11:10 (Ref:714894)   #3
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I found the accompanying Reuters news statement amusing:
"China's Shanghai and the race in Bahrain remained subject to approval of their facilities, billed as the most advanced in Formula One and the work of renowned circuit designer Hermann Tilke"

The only thing he is renowned for is building some of the most boring "short straight, 2nd gear corner, short straight etc..." circuits in existence.
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Old 11 Sep 2003, 11:12 (Ref:714898)   #4
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Old 11 Sep 2003, 11:19 (Ref:714906)   #5
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Why are they ending the season at the biggest dump on the calendar? Is this their 'punishment' for the shambles that the last few years have been? :confused:
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Old 11 Sep 2003, 12:12 (Ref:714963)   #6
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My GOD !!!! Final race Brazil !!!!! October 24, I have to check the weather for that time of the year...
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Old 11 Sep 2003, 12:14 (Ref:714966)   #7
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Good to see Silverstone staying on
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Old 11 Sep 2003, 12:15 (Ref:714969)   #8
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I just heard the announcement that there are to be 2 new GP venues next season, 1 in Bahrain and the other in Shanghai to be known as the Chinese GP. Does this mean that 1/2 an hour after watching it you'll fancy seeing another one?:confused:
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Why are they ending the season at the biggest dump on the calendar? Is this their 'punishment' for the shambles that the last few years have been? :confused:
Damon, I won't take that personally, and we have discussed about it far enough, but it was a fantastic race compared to others we had in few years back.
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I dont think it seems right to have Brazil at the end.

Dont get me wrong, i love the track, i think its one of the best layouts, but, as a last race?!

First of all, the weather?! How can you have a very important race for the championship, in extremely wet conditions, with people spearing off all over the place?! Solid weather track is best for the end. Especially as we have come to get used to the the championship usually classically ending in Japan.

Its a dump! the track is nice, even if there are some draining problems. How can you have such a hugely important race, with a huge amount of attention, in a place where the facilities are not that great?

Me thinks it might be in hope that JPM will win the championship there next year.
If it is in terms of who will win the championship where, they should race at Spain......or get themselves an arctic round.
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...and the "biggest dump" seems to be in another continent...
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Old 11 Sep 2003, 12:27 (Ref:714988)   #12
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Does it rain every year in Brasil? I have also asked this question before, but what is the weather like in Sao Paolo in late October?

What about Fuji '76. Japan has been known to have the odd shower too!

At least it is a challenging track (although so is Suzuka).

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I'd thimk Bahrain would be your best bet for a non wet race as the last of the year
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Does it rain every year in Brasil? I have also asked this question before, but what is the weather like in Sao Paolo in late October?
Well, I lived there for 3 years, IIRC was danm cold and rainy... The dry period ends at the end of September.

Right now is 20 degrees...
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I've just been told that The french are not going to be hosting the race next year anyone know if this is true or not?
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I've just been told that The french are not going to be hosting the race next year anyone know if this is true or not?

July 11 * French GP, Magny-Cours


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No offence meant Bon, sorry if it was caused. But the Brazilian GP has long had problems, we had drainage problems this year, sponsor haudings falling on the track before that, the terribly bumpy surface and every single year we have stories of theft and muggings. Not the best place to hold the the race that we remember through the winter if you ask me.
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If Magny-Cours loses its GP, what price a revival of Paul Ricard? Now, who owns Ricard? Oh yes...
I don't know, really I dont, but from the way that this was written I bet it has something to do with Mr Ecclestone, and if it does that probably means no France then.

After the way that they treated the Morgan teasm earlier in the year I would not be too bothered if the French never held a GP again
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Nice to see a calender without any *s next to Silverstone for once...!

As for Brazil hosting the last race, as I've said before: championship decider + prime time slot in Europe = huge viewing figures. It makes no sense for European F1 fans to have to get up at 5am to see who wins the title.
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That's a valid point cos, but why not make it Indy instead?
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No offence meant Bon, sorry if it was caused. But the Brazilian GP has long had problems, we had drainage problems this year, sponsor haudings falling on the track before that, the terribly bumpy surface and every single year we have stories of theft and muggings. Not the best place to hold the the race that we remember through the winter if you ask me.
Ok

The drainage problems were the result of a change in the gravel trap demanded by FIA, then an unexpected rainstorm raised the problem.
Sponsor plates falling, well, nothing is perfect, like priests running into the cars...
The stories of thefts is more related to the country infamousity. Jaguar and Minardi claims proved to be own mistakes. Minardi forgot the wheels in Malaysia and Jaguar found out their stolen computers behind a container in the garage.
I've not been there this year, but friends of mine had no problem at all with that sort of thing.

I have to admit though that October might not be an ideal time to race there...
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cos has raised the point I was going to - well done.

Getting up early for the season finale is stupid, especially if most fans are in Europe.
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Weather doesn't look too bad for that time of year:
http://www.farandwide.com/php/weathe...0&wpg=3&mon=10

And I like the sound of relaxing with a beer in the afternoon, instead of watching the race after returning from a club.

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As someone said, still seeing Silverstone and Spa in the list is quite relieving!
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