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View Poll Results: Which is the strongest driver pairing?
Lehto/Pirro/Werner 9 20.00%
Kristensen/Capello/Ara 15 33.33%
McNish/Biela/Kaffer 16 35.56%
Herbert/Smith/Davies 5 11.11%
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Old 19 Apr 2004, 16:49 (Ref:944372)   #1
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Who's the strongest?

Ok, this is my first effort at a poll. Three teams will campaign four R8’s at this years 24 Hours of Le Mans.

Champion Racing: J.J. Lehto/Marco Werner/Emanuelle Pirro
Audi Sport Japan Team Goh: Tom Kristensen/Rinaldo Capello/Seiji Ara
Audi Sport UK Team Veloqx: Allan McNish/Frank Biela/Pierre Kaffer
Audi Sport UK Team Veloqx: Johnny Herbert/Guy Smith/Jamie Davies

Many years of experience, Le Mans and Sebring victories and driving titles are represented here. My question is, who has the strongest driver lineup. Most would agree that the 2004 Le Mans winner will come from this group of four. So who do you vote for and why? Bias is permitted of course.
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Old 19 Apr 2004, 16:57 (Ref:944382)   #2
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I voted for the Champion bunch. I feel they are the most well rounded group and I find them all to be top notch blokes. Pirro and Lehto have already worked together and Werner seams to gell in nicely. Biela/McNish/Kaffer are pretty tough to. But I feel Kaffer is the weak link there. The Goh team looks pretty scarry to. Tommy K and Dindo will be tough. I don't know much about Ara though. Although he looked good at the Spa and Le Mans 1000K races. The last pairing seems to be the most mis-matched, but heck, they're strong to.
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Old 19 Apr 2004, 16:58 (Ref:944383)   #3
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I will be happy with Team Goh
I always liked Dindo
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Old 19 Apr 2004, 17:29 (Ref:944427)   #4
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Such strong lineups aren't they?

I'd honestly be happy for any of these to win, but i really hope McNish can pull it off...

McNish for the sheer pace, Biela for stability (not repeating 2003 of course!) and Kaffer doesn't exactly seem that weak a link, judging by his Sebring performance - they're getting my vote.

It is close though!
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Old 19 Apr 2004, 17:30 (Ref:944430)   #5
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Yes, but Herbert/Smith/Davies have long teeth. Both of the four crews are good of course.
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Old 19 Apr 2004, 17:32 (Ref:944436)   #6
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Id go with the Nishy and Biela car .....
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Old 19 Apr 2004, 17:39 (Ref:944452)   #7
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For me is the japanese Audi. Oh well, let's see in June who was right and who was wrong
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Old 19 Apr 2004, 17:47 (Ref:944465)   #8
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I don't think it'll be as simple as right and wrong! Between 4 closely matched cars, luck is going to play a big part...

A bit off-topic, but is it likely that any of the teams will be able to do longer stints than the others? Surely they're all on Michelins, and i assume they'll have similar fuel mileage...
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I go for Nishy......

(Got to stick with my new chums at Veloqx..... )
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Old 19 Apr 2004, 17:50 (Ref:944470)   #10
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I went with the Goh Audi...i have no chums at Veloqx.

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Old 19 Apr 2004, 17:53 (Ref:944479)   #11
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Then again, perhaps I should shout for Johnny.........
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Old 19 Apr 2004, 17:54 (Ref:944482)   #12
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Good question gi gav. And I'm not sure. I'd guess it will be pretty evenly matched in terms of car performance. I do give a nod to Veloqx, as they have the "two-car" advantage. This will give them a lot of benefit at Pre-Q's and practice/quals for the race. One extra car for fuel consumption calcs, race setup, quals set up, tyre testing, and adapting to the 2004 specs.
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Old 19 Apr 2004, 18:13 (Ref:944508)   #13
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It's a tough one. I think they are evenly matched. I make it 15 Le Mans victories between all them, with each car having 2 winning drivers. I would have to go for the Nishy car or maybe Hebert, no the Goh car or is it Champion. It really is too close to call.
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Don't you just love those Audis - always been particular favourites of mine.........








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he'll championing BMW M3s next....
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Old 19 Apr 2004, 18:30 (Ref:944540)   #17
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I didn't vote ! I can make up my mind on this ! Great teams, no doubt... he year for four ones with a real suspense...
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Ya gotta vote! There's been 86 views on this thread and only 11 votes. We need data. Like I said, be biased if you want. But seriously, I'm looking forward to this shootout. Reminds me of the customer 956/962 days.

Note to rdjones. I have it a bit different than you in terms of victories. I did this rather quickly, so anyone please correct me.

Le Mans: Kristensen (5), Biela & Pirro (3), Lehto, Herbert, Smith, Capello & McNish (1) Total = 16

Sebring: Biela (3), Capello, McNish & Kristensen (2), Lehto, Werner, Herbert, Kaffer & Pirro (1) Total = 14

Petit Le Mans: Capello (2), Herbert, Lehto, Kristensen, Pirro, Biela & McNish (1) Total = 8

ALMS Driving Titles: Kristensen, Pirro, McNish, Werner & Biela (1) Total = 5

Talk about talent!

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Old 19 Apr 2004, 18:52 (Ref:944574)   #20
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Don't worry I did it my head too, be it 15 or 16 there is a hell of a lot of experience there.
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Old 19 Apr 2004, 18:59 (Ref:944578)   #21
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I voted for the Champion crew...
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But seriously, I'm looking forward to this shootout. Reminds me of the customer 956/962 days.
How true, good point. Kremer, Brun, Joest, Richard Lloyd Racing, all great teams who knew how to put together a good effort.

How many of those legendary cars will we see in the Group C race on the Saturday morning, I wonder...
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he'll championing BMW M3s next....

Even I have to draw the line somewhere.....

But, as I've said before, great cars. (In the right championship/race)
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I'll have to say it will be one of the Audi UK Team Veloqx cars, because of the two-car advantages already explained here. Between these two... i don't know, i haven't followed endurance racing long enough to really know much about the drivers, so won't try anything...
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I went with Champion as well....

Great mix of experience, speed, veteran patience and aggressive skills to make passes in tough spots...

But it was a tough choice....all of those drivers are among the very top of their craft.....
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