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Old 20 Apr 2004, 18:33 (Ref:945823)   #1
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Parking Lot GP in LAS VEGAS almost ON ?!

another thing I neglected to post here yesterday, sorry...
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Finally there is some good news regarding the season closer = http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/st...516711684.html

Too bad that it will be in a parking lot of Mandala Bay (as I've been saying for the longest, btw)... no, it isn't confirmed yet, but there isn't any other option this year - next year Wynn Vegas Casino grounds will most likely host Champcars, but this year only the huge parking lot and space around the Mandala Bay casino are suitable for consideration... and nope, there won't be any U2 concert - they'll be in Asia at the time...

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Old 20 Apr 2004, 21:55 (Ref:946065)   #2
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well they used to have an F1 race in a car park out there years ago so why not a Champcar race ?

as long as the track provides plenty of room for passing then I dont see a problem with it.
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Old 20 Apr 2004, 22:51 (Ref:946132)   #3
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This is great news. This was the big "unknown" race, we were planning to go to. If our plans go right & they can pull this race off, we will be going to 4 CC races, this year.

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Old 21 Apr 2004, 00:50 (Ref:946196)   #4
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I was hoping for an oval race at LVMS, but a street race (parking lot) will do for now! Will the race in LV be the 16th or 17th race of the season?

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Old 21 Apr 2004, 01:09 (Ref:946205)   #5
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I'm not all that in favor of a purely parking lot race. The small street courses don't tend to be as good. It's difficult ot have a good layout with a limited space. It seems like CART tracks need to be atleast close to 2 miles to stand a chance at being good. Ultimately the most important things are that people show up, the race is good so that people continue to watch and money is made.
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Old 21 Apr 2004, 06:03 (Ref:946317)   #6
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I was hoping for the oval
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Old 21 Apr 2004, 06:43 (Ref:946339)   #7
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I was hoping for the oval
Ditto that.
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Old 21 Apr 2004, 07:04 (Ref:946353)   #8
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well they used to have an F1 race in a car park out there years ago so why not a Champcar race ?

After the 2 F1 races in 81 & 82,they had CART races in 83-84,on an shortened oval version of the same car park. This sounds interesting.If I can get a cheap flight to Vegas that weekend I might be coming over.
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Old 21 Apr 2004, 22:57 (Ref:947266)   #9
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Here's another take on the Vegas thingy = http://www.crash.net/uk/en/news_view...id=3&nid=89999

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Old 22 Apr 2004, 00:38 (Ref:947360)   #10
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I still am!

I'm in denial

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Yes... an oval, remember the Eurospeedway...!? It's a fantastic Tri-oval... hmm, for example: "The Europeen BMW 500"...
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Eurospeedway is still there,the oval unused and unloved. But 100,000 people reported at Hockenheim for DTM.
If you like ovals follow IRL or NASCAR,europeans do not like them!

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If you like ovals follow IRL or NASCAR,europeans do not like them!

Speak for yourself...

I'm very much an European, and I love ovals.

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Eurospeedway is still there,the oval unused and unloved. But 100,000 people reported at Hockenheim for DTM.
If you like ovals follow IRL or NASCAR,europeans do not like them!
The last DTM race in Hockenheim attracted "only" some 60.000 people at sunday...

.. but One point: I don't think Europeens don't like ovals, shure it's a new and strange type of racing in Europe... but remember the German 500 back in 2001 with more than 84.000 fans on the sunday race... so it's more a question of doing a good promotion ( and the promotion and advertising of this race was really low)! And the thrilling experience of an oval-racing you only get live on the track...
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Speak for yourself...

I'm very much an European, and I love ovals.
Loving ovals is fine and dandy... I also happen to be (originally) European and have been to more CART oval races than road races - almost every Pocono 500, few Michigans and a few Indys, but as I often have dreamt of CART instituting a "Triple Crown" event (three 500milers), not only it had not happenned, but now after the Jan.28th bruhaha and TG's full declaration of "war", combined with TG's little toy series going road racing next year - all that have all but killed my "love" for ovals... add to that the fact of OWRS planning to ditch ovals as of next year and go strictly road/street racing (which is an excellent move, IMO) while iplementing a "new engine/chassis formula" that will see lighter and nimbler cars that will NOT be compatible for oval racing (yeah, call it "F1-lite" if you wish) - - - then my "love" for oval racing can take a rest... for at least 4-5 years that it will take for OWRS to get their imprint in OW racing soldified - when that happens then they will most likely return to oval racing mainly in order to appease the American public AND the potential sponsors and advertisers whom OWRS does need so desperately...

In the meantime my "love" for ovals has been cryogenically put to storage until the right time comes... besides, there still is a very distinctive possibility that IRL will implode (when Honda and Toyota leave) and around 2007-08 TG might come begging OWRS to run the Indy and ten we all will be verrrrrrrrrrrry happy ?!

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Old 22 Apr 2004, 18:55 (Ref:948164)   #16
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geeeez, I just noticed that it's a Vegas thread... anyhow, an oval race in Vegas is completely out of the question - it even never was considered by KK and/or GF ?!

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