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Old 5 May 2004, 18:33 (Ref:961793)   #1
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350z N-gt

DSC are reporting that a 350Z will compete in FIA GT with customer versions made available.

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Old 5 May 2004, 18:42 (Ref:961800)   #2
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I have just seen that too. I'm not that suprised really. Having start in a road going version last week, I think they will certainly look the part.
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Old 5 May 2004, 18:51 (Ref:961807)   #3
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I assume it is a private venture?

Any help from NISMO and there experience with the car in JGTC GT300?

Its about time we had some Japanease cars in European GT Racing.
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Old 5 May 2004, 18:59 (Ref:961815)   #4
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I'm really surprised... normally this info is wrong.....
the big problem is that this car isn't actually homolagable in europe because of the lack of place inside... there's not enouth place for the hoop, and the original one (when you buy a road car) isn't high enouth...
to have the right to race in europe they must create a new version of that car, higher... so....
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Old 5 May 2004, 19:06 (Ref:961821)   #5
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I am sure the FIA/ACO would allow them to race if the team showed they could build a roll cage up to standards.
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Old 5 May 2004, 19:17 (Ref:961834)   #6
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I'm really surprised... normally this info is wrong.....
the big problem is that this car isn't actually homolagable in europe because of the lack of place inside... there's not enouth place for the hoop, and the original one (when you buy a road car) isn't high enouth...
to have the right to race in europe they must create a new version of that car, higher... so....
Surely roll cages are custome made for each car?

The 350Z must be bigger than a Ferrari 360, TVR or Spyker.
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Old 5 May 2004, 20:59 (Ref:961945)   #7
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Let's hope it's true, THIS CAR would be a great supplement to the series. There were some rumours before, when I remember correctly?

We could have a n-gt class with:

360
911
tvr
spyker
aston martin
nissan
morgan
maserati trofeo light
mosler?
noble?
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Old 5 May 2004, 21:12 (Ref:961956)   #8
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http://www.jgtc.net/race/gallery/gal...ph/041_037.jpg

Probably more like this.

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Old 5 May 2004, 21:12 (Ref:961957)   #9
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The target for debut is the Spa 24 hours..........it developed by RJN Motorsports, with assistance of NISMO. It already raced in Japan.

The four remaining round after the 24 hours are also part of the plan. A little Lambo-tactic, creating appetite for the customers

Possible drivers? Vincent Radermecker and Chris Buncombe....

It is not the same car as the link of Wout (...cause that is JGTC).....but it looks great. The link of JAG is more correct.

My source, the online version of autosport

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Old 5 May 2004, 21:23 (Ref:961968)   #10
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It's about time, frankly. First there were rumours of an ALMS GT version, then it went quiet. Let's hope this comes to fruition.
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Old 5 May 2004, 21:24 (Ref:961972)   #11
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Good to see NISMO involved. Didn't realise that.
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Old 5 May 2004, 23:25 (Ref:962082)   #12
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About bloody time that Nissn came back to real racing!
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Old 6 May 2004, 01:05 (Ref:962133)   #13
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small problem! I have on good authority that the Z is too short. The new nismo street kit {Emotion E or something} adds something like 7 inches to the front of the car. it really needs aero help. still a great car. the factory Z is just beyond words. The orc clutches car is even better looking then that
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Old 6 May 2004, 06:00 (Ref:962218)   #14
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The target for debut is the Spa 24 hours..........it developed by RJN Motorsports, with assistance of NISMO. It already raced in Japan.

It is not the same car as the link of Wout (...cause that is JGTC).....but it looks great. The link of JAG is more correct.

They are both JGTC cars, and based on the same chassis I guess?
It certainly looks great. Hope to see the car in Spa!
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Old 6 May 2004, 08:07 (Ref:962267)   #15
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I'm really surprised... normally this info is wrong.....
the big problem is that this car isn't actually homolagable in europe because of the lack of place inside... there's not enouth place for the hoop, and the original one (when you buy a road car) isn't high enouth...
to have the right to race in europe they must create a new version of that car, higher... so....
So how do you explain the FIA.com web site - the 350z has been homologated for some time now hasn't it? What's wrong with the existing N-GT homologation 005?

http://www.fia.com/resources/documen...on_Country.pdf

Scroll down to about page 8 and you will find....

NGT 005 FAIRLADY Z (Z33) – 3'498.4cc 01.03.2003 2010+

Given it was homologated back in early 2003, I'm surprised we haven't seen it racing already.
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Old 6 May 2004, 08:28 (Ref:962278)   #16
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Hmmm, about that list, I didn't see the Ferrari 550 on it..
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Old 6 May 2004, 08:49 (Ref:962296)   #17
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Good point about the 550.

Ferrari has the following cars on the list...

GT2 11 F50 01.08.1999 2006+
GT 014 575M MARANELLO 01.10.2003 2010
NGT 01 360 MODENA - 3'586.2 cc 01.03.2000 2007+
NGT 07 360 CHALLENGE STRADALE - 3'586.2cc 01.03.2004 2011

Possibly the 550 homologation is superceded by the 575 or something? It doesn't appear on this document either, which lists GT2/GT and NGT cars:

http://www.fia.com/resources/documen...ion_Number.pdf

GT2 2 D 01.08.1995 Porsche 911 CARRERA RS 3.8 2004
GT2 3 D 01.01.1996 Porsche 911 TURBO GT2 2004
GT2 4 D 01.04.1996 Porsche 911 CARRERA RS 3.8 (993) 2004
GT2 5 USA 01.04.1996 Chrysler DODGE VIPER GTS 2009
GT2 6 USA 01.04.1997 Saleen Mustang SR SALEEN MUSTANG SR 2004
GT2 7 F 01.05.1997 Renault Sport SPIDER TYPE EFOH 2006+
GT2 008 GB 01.04.1999 LISTER CARS STORM 2006+
GT2 009 D 01.04.1999 Porsche 911 GT 3 Cup (996) 2006+
GT2 010 GB 01.06.1999 Marcos Sales LTD MANTARA LM600 2006+
GT2 011 I 01.08.1999 Ferrari F50 2006+
GT2 012 I 01.04.2002 Maserati Spa 3200 GT 2009
GT2 013 USA 01.04.2003 Saleen Mustang SR Saleen S7 2010
GT 014 I 01.10.2003 Ferrari Spa 575M Maranello 2010
GT 015 I 01.04.2004 Lamborghini Spa MURCIELAGO 2011

NGT 1 I 01.03.2000 Ferrari 360 Modena 3586,2cm3 2007+
NGT 2 D 01.03.2000 Porsche PORSCHE 911 GT 3 2007+
NGT 3 J 01.08.2002 Mazda Motor Co MX-5 - 1839.6 cc 2010
NGT 4 I 01.03.2003 Maserati COUPE – 4'243.83cc 2010
NGT 5 J 01.03.2003 Nissan FAIRLADY Z (Z33) – 3'498.4cc 2010+
NGT 6 GB 01.07.2003 Morgan Motors Co Ltd AERO 8 – 4'398cc 2010
NGT 7 I 01.03.2004 Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale – 3'586.2cc 2011
NGT 8 D 01.03.2004 Porsche 911 GT3 RS – 3'598.1cc 2011

It's unlikely it was homologated in GT2/GT prior to the Porsche 911 Carrera RS in 1995 (which rules out GT2/GT homologation number 1), and every other homologation number is taken up to April 2004.

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Good point about the 550.

Ferrari has the following cars on the list...

GT2 11 F50 01.08.1999 2006+
GT 014 575M MARANELLO 01.10.2003 2010
NGT 01 360 MODENA - 3'586.2 cc 01.03.2000 2007+
NGT 07 360 CHALLENGE STRADALE - 3'586.2cc 01.03.2004 2011

Possibly the 550 homologation is superceded by the 575 or something? It doesn't appear on this document either, which lists GT2/GT and NGT cars:

http://www.fia.com/resources/documen...ion_Number.pdf

It's unlikely it was homologated in GT2/GT prior to the Porsche 911 Carrera RS in 1995 (which rules out GT2/GT homologation number 1), and every other homologation number is taken up to April 2004.
Just a thought- could homologation 'GT2 11' for the Ferrari F50 actually be a typo on the original FIA document in the pdf, and this homologation number actually be for the 550? If the 550 hadn't been homologated correctly for FIA races, then somebody somewhere would have noticed by now, and kicked up a fuss about it- alternatively, the F50 is legal for FIA GT races and nobody's ever noticed.....
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RJN entered also an Nissan Primera in ETCC a few years ago.
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The racecar would have to be based on the S-Tune GT version of the Z. It's more or less an homologation special with longer overhangs over which the GT500 car has been built. (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/motoring/m...ondsubsection=) The car is really hard to find on the web, so it might be hard to homologate too in Europe.

Also, while looking for it, I noticed the Infiti G35 is badged Skyline elsewhere in the world; knowing there is a Z and a Skyline faction at Nissan, some people must not be quite happy with that Skyline built on a Z chassis.

(For a clear view of what JGTC currently is - modern Gr.5 - and what their plans are : http://www.jgtc.net/race/inside/2004...1sprepo_en.htm)
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The current Skyline will not be the base for the new GTR. The GTR will be a new design to compete with the 911.

The GTR will also be sold around the world for the first time.

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Old 11 May 2004, 02:27 (Ref:967131)   #22
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Yes but its not going to be the 2.65 liter twin turbo version that we have seen before. "tuners" have maxed ou this engine to around 1000bhp in the past how come no ones used it in a prototype. it would be a great engine for lmp2 wouldnt it? (i know there would be resrictions on it but......)
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