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Old 5 Jun 2004, 18:12 (Ref:994818)   #1
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Greatest supertourers ever

How do you think are the greatest supertouring drivers ever of any national series?

Mine are....

1. Alain Menu
2. Jo Winkelhock
3. Steve Soper

Was never really a Menu fan but think he was probably the fastest man in a supertourer
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Old 5 Jun 2004, 19:58 (Ref:994907)   #2
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After seeing some of the old 90's BTCC reviews, Soper like yourself would be high on my list - his fight backs through the feild were amazing, even if it did decide the championship

Menu was a class act, just in 1998 he show'd himself up and lost out in being runner-up. For me then its Steve Soper...just a shame he didn't have the car to show his worth in 2001.
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Old 6 Jun 2004, 08:15 (Ref:995163)   #3
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Old 6 Jun 2004, 14:04 (Ref:995335)   #4
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What about John Cleland???
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Old 6 Jun 2004, 14:58 (Ref:995367)   #5
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it took three posts for someone to mention Cleland.
Cleland would definately make my top 10. But he seemed to shy away when in the big events like the end of season Eurpean Challenges. I do miss big John though.
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Old 6 Jun 2004, 18:27 (Ref:995441)   #6
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Old 6 Jun 2004, 18:32 (Ref:995445)   #7
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I'd have to say Cleland, he was always battling, always trying and a hard but fair racer. He had so much passion, and his 1995 championship victory shows how much the BTCC meant to him.
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Old 6 Jun 2004, 19:56 (Ref:995480)   #8
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Tarquini, Menú, Giovanardi, Radisich, Rydell and Cecotto.
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Old 6 Jun 2004, 21:57 (Ref:995601)   #9
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no one mentioned multi-champ Ravaglia yet.
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Old 7 Jun 2004, 09:44 (Ref:995960)   #10
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Old 7 Jun 2004, 11:39 (Ref:996050)   #11
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Old 7 Jun 2004, 11:57 (Ref:996068)   #12
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no one mentioned multi-champ Ravaglia yet.

and neither Biela or Pirro, but it´s so difficult to say just four or five drivers.
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Old 7 Jun 2004, 12:09 (Ref:996081)   #13
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There is only one who could be considered the best and he's Pirro.. no one is better than him
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Old 7 Jun 2004, 22:14 (Ref:996725)   #14
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There is only one who could be considered the best and he's Pirro.. no one is better than him
I thought he went off the boil towards the end of his super touring career, good to see him back in DTM thrashing Beila.
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Old 8 Jun 2004, 10:56 (Ref:997116)   #15
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Rydell, Biela, Menu, Winkelhock, Aiello.

And a special mention for Peter Kox; that 1996 mini-season in the BTCC promised so much...
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Old 9 Jun 2004, 14:22 (Ref:998498)   #16
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no one mentioned multi-champ Ravaglia yet.
He was a multi-champ in Group A, but he didn't do much in Super Touring
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Old 9 Jun 2004, 16:51 (Ref:998657)   #17
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Paul Radisich, back-to back FIA World Cup winner 1993 - 1994 got my attention, doing it with Ford.

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Old 9 Jun 2004, 20:07 (Ref:998940)   #18
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http://www.btccpages.com/news/NewsSt...1&ArticleID=91

Well, If Alan Gow's latest plan materialises, we could very well see some of those names back on the grid!


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Old 9 Jun 2004, 22:34 (Ref:999146)   #19
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steve soper's mentioned on that list. Is he trying to kill him?

I really would like to see Rouse back again, when he came out of retirement to do britcar he blew everyone away.
Incidently watching Rouse in his Kaliber RS500 on grandstand is one of my earliest motorsport memories.

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Old 7 Jul 2004, 16:52 (Ref:1029421)   #20
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i don't think he's supertouring, but i know that he's in BTCC now! i like Jason Plato!
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Old 8 Jul 2004, 07:48 (Ref:1029905)   #21
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i don't think he's supertouring, but i know that he's in BTCC now! i like Jason Plato!
My favourite too ... and yes he DID do Super Touring. In fact he holds The Super Touring Lap Record for Bathurst (set in 1997).
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Old 8 Jul 2004, 09:13 (Ref:1029950)   #22
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Paul Radisich - won two Touring Car World Cups in successive years
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only drivers that i saw racing ..
Tarquini,Aiello,Rydell,Menu,Giovanardi
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From an Aussie point of view hows this for a selection of drivers that will compete in this years Bathurst 1000 in October: Jason Plato, John Cleland, Alain Menu, Yvan Muller, Paul Radisich, Craig Baird, Alex Yoong, Max Wilson & though he is an Aussie, David Brabham. Not a bad selection to take on Australia's best in what is undoubtably, the best touring car race in the world, bar none!
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Old 28 Jul 2004, 07:53 (Ref:1049523)   #25
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Ummm he's maybe the best in the old group a's and in V8's but he raced once in a super tourer at Bathurst.. and the car died...
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